Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles,
It empties today of its strength. ~Corrie ten Boom
Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow. ~Mary Anne Radmacher (thank you beadinglady)
It's been a long journey. TTC since 9/06. multiple IUI's and IVF's and 4 m/c's. IVF#3 = BFP, twins, induced at 34w6d due to baby b passing away (no explanation). Delivered on 35w1d, Baby A - baby girl, and Baby B - baby boy, our little angel.
MTHFR A1298C & C677T, Immune Issues and Factor II
Awwww... you are so sweet! I haven't gotten any kind of update on the embies but I did have a meeting with the doctor. It was fairly illuminating and I feel a little bit more warm and fuzzy.
We started out with 18 eggs. 5 were not mature. 5 fertilized abnormally and 2 did not fertilize at all. Apparently the 2 that didn't fertilize at all were probably overmature. Then the 5 that fertilized abnormally were "multinucleated". Multinucleated embies are generally caused by genetically
abnormal spem or eggs. PCOS (which no one really knows if I have or
not) usually increases the probability of genetic abnormality. Men with MFI usually have more
genetically abnormal sperm. So, we are inherently at risk to have greater numbers of genetically abnormal embryos, despite our best efforts to the
contrary.
We had 14 embies in our last cycle (from 16 eggs) and that was at a not-special clinic. So, since we are at CCRM this cycle, I inherently expected at least as good, if not better. However, it maybe be that I was not comparing apples to apples. According to the notes from our last
cycle, we had NO multinucleated embies. The RE says that's virtually
impossible; even in the best donor cycles there are a few
multinucleated embies. He also said that although multinucleated embies
are ultimately doomed, they CAN grow to blast, therefore they should be
chucked from the start. So... even though I *thought* we had 14 embies last cycle, it is unlikely that we had more than a max of 10 that were actually potentially viable. And it's no one's fault that 2 of our embies this time didn't fertilize at all, that is not atypical at all. So, all of a sudden, I don't feel like this cycle is all that much worse off than the last.
How is THAT for a perspective change? Based on my age and the fact that we had 6 blasts last cycle, the RE seems to think that all of our embies will make it to blast for biopsy and genetic testing. That would be freaking
amazing but I am extremely skeptical. I will get the 3 day update tomorrow and the final update on Monday or Tuesday. There's nothing to do now but wait and see.
Thank you so much for caring enough to ask about me; I now feel all warm and squishy inside.
Re: Anyone hear from yodasmistress?
me too!
go embies!
Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, It empties today of its strength. ~Corrie ten Boom
Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow. ~Mary Anne Radmacher (thank you beadinglady)
It's been a long journey. TTC since 9/06. multiple IUI's and IVF's and 4 m/c's. IVF#3 = BFP, twins, induced at 34w6d due to baby b passing away (no explanation). Delivered on 35w1d, Baby A - baby girl, and Baby B - baby boy, our little angel.
MTHFR A1298C & C677T, Immune Issues and Factor II
Awwww... you are so sweet! I haven't gotten any kind of update on the embies but I did have a meeting with the doctor. It was fairly illuminating and I feel a little bit more warm and fuzzy.
We started out with 18 eggs. 5 were not mature. 5 fertilized abnormally and 2 did not fertilize at all. Apparently the 2 that didn't fertilize at all were probably overmature. Then the 5 that fertilized abnormally were "multinucleated". Multinucleated embies are generally caused by genetically abnormal spem or eggs. PCOS (which no one really knows if I have or not) usually increases the probability of genetic abnormality. Men with MFI usually have more genetically abnormal sperm. So, we are inherently at risk to have greater numbers of genetically abnormal embryos, despite our best efforts to the contrary.
We had 14 embies in our last cycle (from 16 eggs) and that was at a not-special clinic. So, since we are at CCRM this cycle, I inherently expected at least as good, if not better. However, it maybe be that I was not comparing apples to apples. According to the notes from our last cycle, we had NO multinucleated embies. The RE says that's virtually impossible; even in the best donor cycles there are a few multinucleated embies. He also said that although multinucleated embies are ultimately doomed, they CAN grow to blast, therefore they should be chucked from the start. So... even though I *thought* we had 14 embies last cycle, it is unlikely that we had more than a max of 10 that were actually potentially viable. And it's no one's fault that 2 of our embies this time didn't fertilize at all, that is not atypical at all. So, all of a sudden, I don't feel like this cycle is all that much worse off than the last.
How is THAT for a perspective change? Based on my age and the fact that we had 6 blasts last cycle, the RE seems to think that all of our embies will make it to blast for biopsy and genetic testing. That would be freaking amazing but I am extremely skeptical. I will get the 3 day update tomorrow and the final update on Monday or Tuesday. There's nothing to do now but wait and see.
Thank you so much for caring enough to ask about me; I now feel all warm and squishy inside.