So here's what I don't get...

MaxOrTori · August 2009

I am truly not trying to start anything here.... but:

Why would you try to "fake out" the GD test by fasting/changing your eating habits/not following the instructions prior to the test?

This seems selfish to me. The effects GD can have on your baby are very serious, and I would think that most women would want their babies to receive the proper care.

I can tell you that prior to the test, I was eating very healthy - but I still failed. Does it suck? Yes. But I am glad I found out that I have it so that I can monitor my carbs to ensure my baby is healthy.

Am I missing something here?

thetwistedwillow · August 2009

I AGREE COMPLETELY!!!

I don't know if it is even possible to fake the test but I know that it's very worrisome to hear other women trying to fake it out purposefully. Shame, shame.

nikkinack1 · August 2009

I agree with above

ivs112 · August 2009

THANK YOU!!! I was debating whether I should post something like this considering there have been like 10 posts today about the GD test. Unfortunately I think we're wasting our breath. I'm just not going to open those posts anymore.

adharper2615 · August 2009

Brav-freakin'-O!

Ncaminiti · August 2009

reason i'm suprise, more doctors don't just draw a HA1C. Sometimes i laugh, I know for me I didnt try to "fake it out" but I didn't eat before mine because that's the instructions that office follows

Mrs.RMama · August 2009

Yes Yes Yes

People think they know best... I posted yesterday about some stupid BRU employee who told me I should just stop taking my insulin because at this point, "It's not doing anything." Please please please people stop (on this board and in real life) stop giving medical advice when you are in no position to do so. The effects of GD untreated or incorrectly treated on a baby are not good. Why do that to yourself and or your baby!??!!

Jenn.J. · August 2009

1. I don't think you can "fake out" the test. People who eat tons of sugar don't necessarily get GD.

2. My dr. TOLD me to fast the morning of my test. She said it would give a more accurate reading. Every dr. is different here though and many don't have you fast.

SmallandNeedy · August 2009

I agree, but I know my thinking before my GD test was "What if I cheat and have a pop tart for breakfast, and THAT is what puts me over enough to need to take the 3 hour?" I knew that the food you eat beforehand has little to do with it, but those thoughts still went through my head.?

BlairWaldorf · August 2009

Agreed, completely.

It's incredibly selfish to try & "fake-out" a test.

AMYfromKY · August 2009

I agree, but they actually had me fast from midnight the night before my test. I guess it's how some Drs do it.

Mrs.RMama · August 2009

AMYfromKY:
I agree, but they actually had me fast from midnight the night before my test. I guess it's how some Drs do it.

Here's the thing Amy, your DOCTOR told you to fast. Some tell you to fast, others don't. People should just take the medical advice their own doctors have given them. You did what your doctor told you to do. Cause you're smart.

MaxOrTori · August 2009

Mrs.RMama:

AMYfromKY:
I agree, but they actually had me fast from midnight the night before my test. I guess it's how some Drs do it.

Here's the thing Amy, your DOCTOR told you to fast. Some tell you to fast, others don't. People should just take the medical advice their own doctors have given them. You did what your doctor told you to do. Cause you're smart.

Exactly... some seem to be fasting "just because" and not because they were instructed to - I am concerned for those who are fasting just to skew the results.

jessicaclare · August 2009

I don't get it either. I ate normally before my GD test (in fact, I had a big ol' bagel about an hour before) and still passed with flying colors. If I had GD, I'd want to know. Sure, it would suck for me, but it would be worse for my baby if I didn't know!

LeelaH · August 2009

ITA with the OP (and the rest of you that agreed)! A couple months ago someone posted that they were going to "opt out" of the 3 hour test and I got flamed by more than one person when I asked why in the world they would do that. They said that they didn't agree with the stats on what GD can do to your baby. Ever since then I usually just don't open the GD posts. There is no way in the world I would want to try to fake out or opt out of a test that could potentially save my baby's life!

ToledoDeux · August 2009

MaxOrTori:
Mrs.RMama:

AMYfromKY:
I agree, but they actually had me fast from midnight the night before my test. I guess it's how some Drs do it.

Here's the thing Amy, your DOCTOR told you to fast. Some tell you to fast, others don't. People should just take the medical advice their own doctors have given them. You did what your doctor told you to do. Cause you're smart.

Exactly... some seem to be fasting "just because" and not because they were instructed to - I am concerned for those who are fasting just to skew the results.

Well, doesn't the fact that doctors can't agree on fasting or not before the 1-hour tell you something? You can take your doctor's advice, but if you had a different doctor, you'd get different advice. The test is not foolproof, it's just a screening, and the results are not reproducible 50%-70% of the time. So I can't worry too much about someone who does what they want to before the test.

MaxOrTori · August 2009

ToledoDeux:
MaxOrTori:
Mrs.RMama:

AMYfromKY:
I agree, but they actually had me fast from midnight the night before my test. I guess it's how some Drs do it.

Here's the thing Amy, your DOCTOR told you to fast. Some tell you to fast, others don't. People should just take the medical advice their own doctors have given them. You did what your doctor told you to do. Cause you're smart.

Exactly... some seem to be fasting "just because" and not because they were instructed to - I am concerned for those who are fasting just to skew the results.

Well, doesn't the fact that doctors can't agree on fasting or not before the 1-hour tell you something? You can take your doctor's advice, but if you had a different doctor, you'd get different advice. The test is not foolproof, it's just a screening, and the results are not reproducible 50%-70% of the time. So I can't worry too much about someone who does what they want to before the test.

But there are fasting numbers and non fasting numbers....

If you aren't fasting, you pass with a 120, if you are fasting, you pass with a 90.

With fasting, I get a 90 where as when I don't fast, I am over the 120 mark. If your doctor doesn't know you are fasting he/she could assume you ate, and that you are doing just fine.

Mrs.RMama · August 2009

The whole thing is that if someone is stupid enough not to follow directions that are clearly stated, what other stupid things are they willing to do?

I have no medical background to argue whether fasting or not is relevant just enough intelligence to know whether your doctor told you you should do one thing or another thing, it should be done for clarity of the situation. I.E. A doctor believing his patient did not fast and had a slightly evaluated number when in fact she "fasted."

Mabzie · August 2009

i thought you couldn't "fake out" the test? you either have it or you don't.

Samantha82 · August 2009

I don't get it either. And I don't understand how you can "fake out" the test, unless you don't drink the glucose. Even if you fasted that day it's not going to effect your score that much, as long as you drink the stuff.

ToledoDeux · August 2009

MaxOrTori:
ToledoDeux:
Well, doesn't the fact that doctors can't agree on fasting or not before the 1-hour tell you something? You can take your doctor's advice, but if you had a different doctor, you'd get different advice. The test is not foolproof, it's just a screening, and the results are not reproducible 50%-70% of the time. So I can't worry too much about someone who does what they want to before the test.

But there are fasting numbers and non fasting numbers....

If you aren't fasting, you pass with a 120, if you are fasting, you pass with a 90.

With fasting, I get a 90 where as when I don't fast, I am over the 120 mark. If your doctor doesn't know you are fasting he/she could assume you ate, and that you are doing just fine.

And doctors can't even agree on these numbers. My passing score (fasting or not) was anything under 140. I passed with 133 - but your doc would have made me go through the 3-hour. Am I endangering my baby? I don't think so.

I know I am in the minority on these boards, but I just don't get bent out of shape about the GD screenings. Research doesn't support the hysteria.

ZAngel · August 2009

Each doctor has their own instructions because each doctor does the test their own way. Doctors take blood in different ways, test in different ways and use their own glucose scales. They give different instructions based on their way of testing. If you go by what some other doctor says, you are messing up what your own doctor does. That is the reason why each doctor gives specific instruction... no one doctor does any procedure the exact same way. Yes, the test may not be an exact science and is used more to tell whether someone is at risk but wouldn't you want to do everything you could to find out where you sit? If you fail the first test... and then you fail the second test... there's a pretty good chance your body isn't processing on the "safe side". Why would any mother want to take the chance even for an increased risk of something happening to their child.... because they don't want to stop eating cookies or get their finger pricked? Really... what is so hard about following doctors orders?

Mrs.RMama · August 2009

I don't think it's hysterical when every fifth post is some stupid person saying how they are going to try and trick their GD test, or opt out of their three hour, especially when you have to prick yourself six times a day and take insulin. It won't be hysterical if your baby has a blood sugar problem at birth and has to be pricked every hour on the hour.

TD - Not trying to pisss you off personally but some of the ridiculous things I have read on this board about GD make me want to scream.

Mrs.RMama · August 2009

And the newest post that just appeared is MY EXACT POINT

tashacu02 · August 2009

You can't cheat and you proved that point by saying you ate healthy and still have it. Either you will have it or you won't. What you eat prior to the test just determines how bad you will fail (ex. 248- eating cake and junk food, 180- without). Either way, you will fail the test with these numbers. If your body can't handle the sugar load, you will fail even if you fasted for 24 hours and drank the juice.

Rogue Lily · August 2009

I think there is some credibility to what PP said about the medical community not even agreeing on the fasting vs. non-fasting. My doctor was on vacation and the other office doctor had me come in same-day for a GD test because I was feeling really off for a few days. I made it very clear to her that I had not fasted. She said it was fine, it wouldn't make a difference. I was a little confused because the original instructions for the test were to fast for four hours. I assumed there would have been a reason for that.

Anyway, turns out I failed the 1 hr with a 135. After talking with my Dr.'s nurse late last week, she told me she was really annoyed about with the other Dr. for bringing me in without fasting. After I told her I'd had a bowl of cereal and half a donut that morning, she flat out said "yep, you definitely would have passed, that did it".

Point is, it's not all about tricking the system. I wish I would've followed my gut and insisted on fasting before testing as originally instructed. If I would have done so, I wouldn't have had to deal with the 3 hour, a test that was not exactly fun and took up an entire morning. Either way, I do think it's important for people to realize that if you DO have GD, it is going to show up in the results. And it's definitely something you want to know about!

TeamV · August 2009

I fasted before my 1 hour, but I wasn't trying to "fake out" the test. My nurse said I can either fast or not fast, it was up to me. She did instruct me that if I ate, not to eat anything with carbs, only protein, and I'm not a big fan of most breakfast foods unless they have carbs! (I usually eat bagels/toasts/english muffins rather than bacon and eggs). So I just opted to have the test first thing in the morning and not eat, and just have something to eat afterwards. My office uses 140 as the cut-off, but it's not specified if that is fasting or not. I passed with a 109, and I typically eat a lot of carbs and enjoy my desserts.

So I totally agree, that you can eat very healthfully and still have it, or have a not so great diet and not have it. It's just the way each person's body proceesses sugar differently.

SkypekWithoutAC · August 2009

Ditto Rogue exactly. When I did my 1 hr, I was not told to fast, just to eat a "healthy" breakfast. I interpreted that as skim milk, rice krispies, and a banana. That IS healthy, but it's also high in carbs, so I was put over the edge and had to take the 3 hr test - which I passed with flying colors.

lpennie16 · August 2009

ITA. Following the GD diet isn't fun and having it isn't fun I'm sure, but its not fair to baby to try and fake out the test.

When I took my one hour, the girl sitting across from me drank 3/4 of hers and then dumped the rest in the trashcan. I think I'm the only one who saw her. I didn't say anything then, but maybe I should have...

lovesazzie · August 2009

I COMPLETELY agree. Just follow the directions the doctor/nurse gives.

sjp · August 2009

jessicaclare:
I don't get it either. I ate normally before my GD test (in fact, I had a big ol' bagel about an hour before) and still passed with flying colors. If I had GD, I'd want to know. Sure, it would suck for me, but it would be worse for my baby if I didn't know!

this--except i actually ate a candy bar . ..

mrspayne2B · August 2009

Not sure why someone would try to "fake" the test. But my instructions have been to fast before taking my test that morning. I was told that this helps them see how your body is breaking down that amount of sugar that they know they just gave you.

I had a friend that went in last year and forgot and ate before her test. They made her just come back again because for their test you need to fast before.

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