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  • For a nominal fee, we shall let you keep it...  my pp addy is...

     Nonsense, pixy....  you're always welcome.  If we could keep the use of the f word to a minimum....  ;) 

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  • What did I miss?  And why would you need to give up your badge?  You're a staple here.
  • The f-word is my favorite though!  sigh... I'll try.  ;op
  • If my opinion matters, I think there's room enough for everybody. Yes

    I like a healthy debate, but have to say that I am disappointed when degrades from that to offensive language & the like.

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  • Did all hell break lose on that IVF thread? Pixy you gave your opinion, it was supposed to be share your opinion.  I don't know why people didn't understand that.  Keep your badge.  I won't fault or judge you for your opinion there.
  • imagepixy_stix:
    The f-word is my favorite though!  sigh... I'll try.  ;op

    That would be my favorite as well.  I've had to try very very hard to make sure my son isn't dropping f-bombs all over the place!

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    imagepixy_stix:
    The f-word is my favorite though!  sigh... I'll try.  ;op

    That would be my favorite as well.  I've had to try very very hard to make sure my son isn't dropping f-bombs all over the place!

    My DH and I use initials...it's quite sad.  It's probably just as bad if our kids go to school and use the initials than if they use the actual word. Stick out tongue

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    imagepixy_stix:
    The f-word is my favorite though!  sigh... I'll try.  ;op

    That would be my favorite as well.  I've had to try very very hard to make sure my son isn't dropping f-bombs all over the place!

    Yeah then I am for sure out. I PPH f-bombs. I also wonder if my daughter will someday say it.

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  • I think it would be boring if we all agreed :-) 
  • ((( hugs ))) to you, sweetie for keeping your stance and not backing down. Your opinions are just that... yours! Why would we want everyone to think alike (well... except for EFF related topics)?

    I really don't have an opinion either way and chose to stay out of the post but don't see how your opinion should have hurt people's e-feelings when the OP said she wanted to hear people's OPINIONS!!! :) 

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    If my opinion matters, I think there's room enough for everybody. Yes

    I like a healthy debate, but have to say that I am disappointed when degrades from that to offensive language & the like.

    This exactly! 

    I asked for opinions. Maybe I shouldn't have but I did.

  • I DO think your religious spewings belongs somewhere else. not here.
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  • imagepapagena:

    For a nominal fee, we shall let you keep it...  my pp addy is...

    Ooooo, this!

    No.... It is perfectly fine and normal and real to have our own views.  It's who we are and why we are loved :)

    I was thinking about this the other day and I think that in "real" life we can find ways to talk about things a bit more calmly because on here, the net, there are SO many people, and while it would be amazing to hear and learn and understand all of those points of view, there are more people that are personal to certain issues and inevitably feelings are hurt and people become defensive.  That is also perfectly normal.  It just seems to make many topics much harder to discuss in a calm manner.

    I *love* watching people (not creepy stalker watching Stick out tongue), listening to opinions, but more importantly why they arrive at those opinions.  I think it's fascinating to understand where people are in life and why and how they got there.  What they stand on.

    There are so many questions in my head and it would be crazy cool to just have a level headed brainstorm with whoever joined in, but I'd never go there.  I'm sure some, if not most would cause drama (no real specifics at the top of my brain, too early) and my intention would never be to hurt someone's feelings or anything like that, only to understand and gain from it.  Things don't always work like that though :

    I hope this makes some sense.  I just woke up.  I'm still sleepies.

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  • the post asked for thoughts and you gave them.  on this board we're respectful of things like that.  ((hugs))
  • imagerenee143:
    the post asked for thoughts and you gave them.  on this board we're respectful of things like that.  ((hugs))

    so where was "the respect" for the infertile community?! geez!

    I suggest she start some sort of religious board where she can babble on and on and on... her distorted and ignorant preachings have nothing to do with EFF (unless this board has changed recently.)

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  • imagepapagena:

     Nonsense, pixy....  you're always welcome.  If we could keep the use of the f word to a minimum....  ;) 

    Wait ... you mean one of the "F"s in EFF isn't for the f-bomb!?  Oops. :P

    I haven't even caught up on what happened after I went to bed but I hope you don't go away, pixy.  You like bees and dogs and I like you.  

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  • imageroaringrock:

    imagerenee143:
    the post asked for thoughts and you gave them.  on this board we're respectful of things like that.  ((hugs))

    so where was "the respect" for the infertile community?! geez!

    Where is my respect for my religious views.  Everything I said was in the context of the post.  I never attacked anyone, like you just did, and I very respectfully said that these were *my* views and I didn't expect anyone else to have those views.

    Clearly, I'm not the one that isn't respectful, in this thread nor the other.

  • imageroaringrock:

    I suggest she start some sort of religious board where she can babble on and on and on... her distorted and ignorant preachings have nothing to do with EFF (unless this board has changed recently.)

    While her opinion may not have been directly related to "EFF", it was directly related to the question asked, thus relevant.

    I hardly considering offering your opinion *when asked* babbling on and on.  The OP of that topic had genuine interest in opinions/feelings on the matter.

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  • imageroaringrock:
    her distorted and ignorant preachings have nothing to do with EFF (unless this board has changed recently.)

    They do, though, and really I won't go into how we are stewards for the earth, because that would clearly upset you.  Just so you know, tar and feathers aren't EFF either.

  • imageroaringrock:

    imagerenee143:
    the post asked for thoughts and you gave them.  on this board we're respectful of things like that.  ((hugs))

    so where was "the respect" for the infertile community?! geez!

    I suggest she start some sort of religious board where she can babble on and on and on... her distorted and ignorant preachings have nothing to do with EFF (unless this board has changed recently.)

    she is entitled to her beliefs.  i've been on this board for a long time, and i "know" pixy.  were my feelings hurt a little?  sure.  am i comfortable enough with my own beliefs to let her have her own and move on?  absolutely.

    btw- i am mommy to an ivf miracle.

  • imagerenee143:
    imageroaringrock:

    imagerenee143:
    the post asked for thoughts and you gave them.  on this board we're respectful of things like that.  ((hugs))

    so where was "the respect" for the infertile community?! geez!

    I suggest she start some sort of religious board where she can babble on and on and on... her distorted and ignorant preachings have nothing to do with EFF (unless this board has changed recently.)

    she is entitled to her beliefs.  i've been on this board for a long time, and i "know" pixy.  were my feelings hurt a little?  sure.  am i comfortable enough with my own beliefs to let her have her own and move on?  absolutely.

    btw- i am mommy to an ivf miracle.

    Renee's response perfectly exemplifies two things:  1. what I absolutely adore about this board, and 2. the level and type of respect that was missing from last night's conversation.  

    I was (am) very disappointed that last night's discussion turned into a verbal p|ssing match, complete with c&ps to other boards and visitors arriving just to join in the oh-so-dramatic fun.  As a whole, the EFF board manages to discuss difficult topics in a clear and respectful manner.  Last night's thread could have been found on any board, any where.  Which really sucks.  I don't go to other boards, because I don't need to read name calling and verbal sewage.  I come here because we somehow manage to maintain dignity and respect for one another, despite the anonymity. 

     

  • fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

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  • imagepixy_stix:
    Huh?
    For the record, I agree with your opinion.  I would have said so yesterday, but by the time I had read the thread, it had gotten a bit ugly and I didn't want to get involved.
  • imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

  • imageroaringrock:
    pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    Please take a breath.  Why are you angry at me?  Because I expressed an opinion very different than your own?  I didn't condemn anyone, and I wasn't preaching at anyone.  I was expressing my *own* beliefs.  Solely personal beliefs.  I said, more than once, that people are allowed to believe what they want.  There is no wrong or right on this subject.

  • imageGladToBeMrs.SRS:
    imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

    Yep, you're starting to sound a tad crass and crazy. I don't agree with Pixy, and hell, I really don't even like her. This board is generally drama free, though, and she didn't post to start any. 

    Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one.  

  • imageGladToBeMrs.SRS:
    imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

    she needs to apologize to a lot of people. no, not for her views but for being blatantly obnoxious. maybe it was god that told her to be so rude. I don't know. but I'm no stranger to this board. I have been on here since my IVF baby was born (I cd etc. etc.)

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  • imageroaringrock:
    imageGladToBeMrs.SRS:
    imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

    she needs to apologize to a lot of people. no, not for her views but for being blatantly obnoxious. maybe it was god that told her to be so rude. I don't know. but I'm no stranger to this board. I have been on here since my IVF baby was born (I cd etc. etc.)

    I stand by my original response. 

  • imagekelbrian:
    imageGladToBeMrs.SRS:
    imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

    Yep, you're starting to sound a tad crass and crazy. I don't agree with Pixy, and hell, I really don't even like her. This board is generally drama free, though, and she didn't post to start any. 

    Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one.  

    hilarious! good stuff.

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  • imageroaringrock:
    imagekelbrian:
    imageGladToBeMrs.SRS:
    imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

    Yep, you're starting to sound a tad crass and crazy. I don't agree with Pixy, and hell, I really don't even like her. This board is generally drama free, though, and she didn't post to start any. 

    Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one.  

    hilarious! good stuff.

    :)

    Okay. I just re-read your original post that is quoted here.

    She is having trouble trying to have a baby, obviously. It's been two years. She's had a miscarriage. Obviously she understands the struggle of wanting a baby but not being able to conceive one as soon as she would like; she doesn't even know if she can conceive another child. Is she disrespecting herself for what she said? Some women don't go the IVF route. I wouldn't. I don't like the idea of being injected with hormones (and I know that was not her opinion). Do I care if another woman does it? Nope. She said she didn't care either. Someone asked for opinions - she gave one.

    Not a lot of people had issues with how she stated her opinion. Sure, we have issues WITH her opinion, but she was not rude in how she stated it. You, however, are being rude. You are sounding hateful. 

    I'm done with this. It is too early, and I haven't quite woken up yet.  

  • imagekelbrian:
    imageroaringrock:
    imagekelbrian:
    imageGladToBeMrs.SRS:
    imageroaringrock:

    fine. fremdom of speech blah blah blah. BUT there is a time and a place for everything! little miss religious right over here had not a morsel of respect for those struggling with infertility. NONE! ZIP! NADA! she is completely 100% entitled to her opinions -- no argument there, but she was rude. I have no tolerance for pulling sh!t like that. I have a lot of strong opinions myself  but I practice respect when voicing my thoughts (until now.)

    EFF is a "gentle" place where people (usually) are kind and supportive to one another. pixy's posts were hateful, self-absorbed, judgmental and preachy. they don't belong here. RUDE!

    I hate to break it to you, but yours are verging on the same.  Can we just get over it, please?

    Yep, you're starting to sound a tad crass and crazy. I don't agree with Pixy, and hell, I really don't even like her. This board is generally drama free, though, and she didn't post to start any. 

    Opinions are like assholes, Everyone has one.  

    hilarious! good stuff.

    :)

    Okay. I just re-read your original post that is quoted here.

    She is having trouble trying to have a baby, obviously. It's been two years. She's had a miscarriage. Obviously she understands the struggle of wanting a baby but not being able to conceive one as soon as she would like; she doesn't even know if she can conceive another child. Is she disrespecting herself for what she said? Some women don't go the IVF route. I wouldn't. I don't like the idea of being injected with hormones (and I know that was not her opinion). Do I care if another woman does it? Nope. She said she didn't care either. Someone asked for opinions - she gave one.

    Not a lot of people had issues with how she stated her opinion. Sure, we have issues WITH her opinion, but she was not rude in how she stated it. You, however, are being rude. You are sounding hateful. 

    I'm done with this. It is too early, and I haven't quite woken up yet.  

     

    her comments about pregnancy and selfishness were rude.

    her comments about "maybe you aren't supposed to be a mother" were RUDE

    her comments about adopted children not being their parent's own were rude beyond anything EFF should tolerate

    but, becuase most EFF's "know" her, they'll circle the wagons.   Even after she gave a big ole f bomb.

    Mike_Hunt doesn't drop F bombs, did ya notice that?

  • imageMike_Hunt:

    her comments about pregnancy and selfishness were rude.

    her comments about "maybe you aren't supposed to be a mother" were RUDE

    her comments about adopted children not being their parent's own were rude beyond anything EFF should tolerate

    but, becuase most EFF's "know" her, they'll circle the wagons.   Even after she gave a big ole f bomb.

    Mike_Hunt doesn't drop F bombs, did ya notice that?

    I do have to point out that she wasn't the first to use the 'F bomb.' Someone said it to her first.

    Yes, her opinions are offensive. I wasn't saying that they weren't. Not by any means. I also said that I don't even like her, and I don't agree with her opinions. She wasn't the one that started the name-calling, though.

  • imageMike_Hunt:

    her comments about pregnancy and selfishness were rude.

    her comments about "maybe you aren't supposed to be a mother" were RUDE

    her comments about adopted children not being their parent's own were rude beyond anything EFF should tolerate

    but, becuase most EFF's "know" her, they'll circle the wagons.   Even after she gave a big ole f bomb.

    Mike_Hunt doesn't drop F bombs, did ya notice that?

    You also misquote and take things out of context.  You don't happen to work for the media, do you?

  • imagepixy_stix:
    imageMike_Hunt:

    Mike_Hunt doesn't drop F bombs, did ya notice that?

    You also misquote and take things out of context.  You don't happen to work for the media, do you?

    *snort*

    We were asked for our opinions.  Pixy gave her's.  You, however, NEVER answeared the OP.  Why?  Why not?

    It's not a case of circling the wagons.  It's a case of her opinion was attacked.  And that's when the drama rolled.  Grown women (and any men floating around) should be able to read an opinion, agree or disagree, and MOVE ON.  Did I agree with everything Pixy said?  No.  But I don't have to.  It's my right and privilage to read what she typed, ponder it, and then post my thoughts without attacking anything she said.  that's where respect comes into play.

    Like I said last night, my heart hurts for every woman who struggles to become a mother.  It's an emotional nightmare I have been blessed with not living.  For that I am grateful.

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