BFN 12dpo - femara's not working for me :(

sliz · August 2009

I've had 3 perfect follies over the last 2 cycles and perfect BD timing and nothing...i tested tonight and it was one sad line....i was really upset and started crying...i just don't know why this isn't working - my lining is good and I have good follies...how on earth did I get pg with twins on my first clomid cycle with a thin lining and then the last couple medicated cycles where everything has been even better not get pg?

DH was sad and said we would just move to IVF soon. It really looks like it is staring us in the face - it is going on 8 months since the loss. 8 months after my mom had me at 41 wks she was already pg with my brother AND I was breastfed!....I have done everything I can do - take 2000 mg met, watch my diet, exercise, lose weight, take every med they tell me to, acupuncture....I am at a total loss - I am really starting to think there is something else wrong with me....i am going to set up a consult with my doc....if IVF is the answer then so be it....I was really hoping we wouldn't have to go there but ever since we started TTC there was a little voice in my head telling me that we would.....I just can't deal with this month after month for who knows how long...

sourpop · August 2009

I am sorry Sliz. I have been following your journey and am just so heartbroken over your loss. I so wish things were different for you. (((hugs))).

sliz · August 2009

thanks sourpop -

yeah me too - i never imagined it would be this difficult...i respond to all the meds (clomid and femara both give me follies) and all my tests have so far come back clear...dh is great....i think if we try another 2-3 cycles with various meds and I am ovulating, I am going to end up with an unexplained dx and the only option will be ivf (the iui's are pointless with dh's sa results)...

sourpop · August 2009

I never imagined it would be this difficult either - it just sucks - and of course makes you wonder if there is something else wrong when nothing seems to be working.

We are dealing with MFI as well. It's so hard. :-(

NYC_CT · August 2009

I'm totally with you. I respond to Clomid as well, my lining is fine, I'm healthy, even DH's SA's have been fine, but we still can't get pregnant. We have done SIX rounds of Met + Clomid - currently on #7 - and nothing, despite our RE telling us that we should be able to get pg on Clomid. I also keep thinking that there MUST be something else wrong with me. It sucks.

We went in yesterday for an IVF consult b/c that's our next step. I just saw your post about it and I would recommend making an appt to talk to your RE about it. He gave me some reading material and explained how the process would work for us. We're giving this last Clomid cycle a chance, then having a "break" cycle before starting IVF. It feels slightly better to have some sort of plan in place! GL to you!

sliz · August 2009

i don't understand how anyone ever gets pg....

i think i am looking at either one more femara or break cycle - or if i can convince them to - try clomid again with something to bulk up my lining...then 1-2 cycles of injectibles and then a break during the holidays (maybe although for us we have a lot of vacation time then so it might be a good time to cycle) and then onto ivf - i really don't see any other option - i really thought we would be pg by now....

i hate that any of us have to go through this

NYC_CT · August 2009

I don't know either!! Seems so hard for everyone on here!

I've heard that doing a cycle of injectibles can help the RE decide on your IVF protocol b/c it shows how you respond to injects, so that isn't a bad plan. I would definitely sit down and weigh your options - it's so hard!!

Also - if you go back to Clomid I find that POM juice really does help! I thought it was an old wives tale, but the cycle that I drank POM days 3-14 I had a great lining and that's the only thing I did differently so there's some truth to it I think!

sliz · August 2009

nyc - how come you are not trying injectibles before the IVF? are you worried about overstimming? I figured it might be wise to try at least one injectibles cycle before ivf to see how I respond - i figure if I way over-respond they could convert to ivf - I am also interested in doing a mini-stim to get better quality and fewer eggs (and it might be less expensive).

I also am wondering why EVERY RE does something different - my previous RE after the m/c said no more than 3 cycles of clomid because he said about 75-80% of people that are going to get pg on clomid do so in 3 cycles and then after that there is only an additional 5-10% chance of getting pg on clomid regardless of the number of additional cycles. He used estrace with clomid to help my lining and it worked a little. I got up to almost a 6 at trigger (on a stressful cycle)....i figure if I increase the estrace and do acu and pom, I might be able to get my lining thick enough....my current RE doesn't do estrace with clomid/femara only on ivf cycles....

also, i've seen people do viagra to bulk up the lining....

i have a bad feeling about the femara - my 2 cycles were nothing like each other EXCEPT that both times I started AF cramping on cd11 even with heavy progesterone supps - I never cramp that early on clomid or even when I cycled on my own....

NYC_CT · August 2009

You are so right, seems like every RE has a different plan. My RE doesn't think an injectible cycle will give us any greater chance of success than a Clomid one, so he doesn't want to do one. He says if we're going to spend $$ and deal with insurance we might as well just go right for the best bang for our buck. I'm fine with IVF so I don't have an issue with it, it's interesting how different everyone's treatment plans are though.

Hopefully we'll both find our magic potion soon!!!

sliz · August 2009

hmm - i wonder if my RE will say that injectibles won't help if I O with femara and don't get pg....

if she really thinks femara will do it - i will try another cycle or two - but I don't feel great about it...i feel better about giving clomid one last shot before injectibles...

our insurance doesn't cover iui or ivf but we might have injectible coverage for TI cycles (if we fight for it)....

waitingforbaby#2 · August 2009

I'm so sorry

NYC_CT · August 2009

sliz:
hmm - i wonder if my RE will say that injectibles won't help if I O with femara and don't get pg....
if she really thinks femara will do it - i will try another cycle or two - but I don't feel great about it...i feel better about giving clomid one last shot before injectibles...
our insurance doesn't cover iui or ivf but we might have injectible coverage for TI cycles (if we fight for it)....

Mine said that injectibles were a great option for people that don't respond well to Clomid, but since I do, we don't need to go down that road. No idea. I hope femera does it for you!! I feel the same way about Clomid that you do about femara, they keep saying it will work, but I'm not feeling it!

pubgirl1976 · August 2009

I'm so sorry about your BFN

patchen30 · August 2009

So sorry about your BFN...would you consider IUI w/ injectibles before moving onto IVF?

Mia07 · August 2009

I'm so sorry. ((hugs))

Are you going to give Femara one more cycle?

Maybe you could try injectables first with TI before moving on to IVF???

sliz · August 2009

if the RE is confident about it I would try femara once more - i personally don't feel great about it - I start cramping 11dpo which is not normal for me - I usually don't cramp until 13-14dpo/cd1.

I would consider clomid again with something to improve my lining if they would do that - but my last clomid cycle, I had a cyst the following cycle so I'm not sure....

I think I will do 1-2 injectible cycles with TI before IVF. If IUIs cost a few hundred $$ I might try one but DH's SAs have been great and it seems silly to pay several hundred or a few thousaund for IUI to go from a 20% chance to a 25% chance....the RE said IUI wouldn't help us and we have no coverage for anything related to it so we would be out all meds, b/w & u/s. It makes more sense to me to move onto a mini-stim IVF with a 50-60% chance and a shot at snowbabies....

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