Sleep Training

kittylove · August 2009

Anyone not do Ferber/CIO and have it work? We tried No Cry Sleep Solution and we all cried and no one slept. We did it for three nights before giving up. He was up and crying more on night 3 than night 1.

Sidenote: I am in a much better place this am than last night.

serendipityRox · August 2009

We tried several different approaches that did not include CIO but unfortunately, they didn't work. In the end the only approach that worked was Ferberizing her. I know it's not for everyone and I hope you get some great suggestions from this post but I just wanted to say that although CIO can be difficult it's pretty quick and easy. I think it's harder for the parent than the child. Anna was sleeping through the night by night 4. She's been a great sleeper ever since.

Fingers crossed someone has a terrific solution. If not, maybe it's time to look into Ferber? IDK, just a thought. Smile

Celyn · August 2009

We tried Ferber with Ryan for a week when he was 8 months. It did not work for us. It made things much worse for him. Of course we now know why he was not a good candidate for that method. I just went back to nursing him to sleep. When he weaned, his routine ended with a short cuddle and that was all it took. His teeth are perfect, by the way, so nursing to sleep did him no harm -- I made sure it never puddled and we brush often.

We never tried it Ferber or CIO on Aaron and he falls asleep just fine as well.

kittylove · August 2009

Celyn:
We tried Ferber with Ryan for a week when he was 8 months. It did not work for us. It made things much worse for him. Of course we now know why he was not a good candidate for that method. I just went back to nursing him to sleep. When he weaned, his routine ended with a short cuddle and that was all it took. His teeth are perfect, by the way, so nursing to sleep did him no harm -- I made sure it never puddled and we brush often.
We never tried it Ferber or CIO on Aaron and he falls asleep just fine as well.

Do you mind me asking why Ferber didn't work for Ryan?

titantsmama · August 2009

Ferber/CIO did not work for us. Ty's temperament was not conducive to CIO- we tried it once and he worked himself up so quickly that within less than ten minutes he vomitted. I knew right then that we never do it again. Granted, I was desperate for sleep but not at that cost. It took me months to realize that Ty's temperament actually played a huge role in many of our challenges and I changed my outlook and approach to things. Age and maturity seemed to be the biggest factors in our sleep equation.

kjunspice · August 2009

I didn't do "sleep training" per se. We read Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child. We did not follow everything in it, but the biggest thing I took away was to look for her sleep cues and start working from there. We were putting her to bed on our timeline, not hers. Once we adjusted that it seemed to help a lot.

We did do "CIO" for a few days, but we were fortunate in that she never cried more than 10 minutes, and slept through the night thereafter. So I wouldn't really consider that full-on CIO.

Good luck!

Celyn · August 2009

At the time we did this, I said that he was just behind on emotional development and that he just was not ready. Now I think it was just probably a component of Aspergers -- when he gets anxious, he cannot wind down, and it just escalates until he's so frozen in the moment that he can't function. For at least a month after we gave up, he was just a mess and our nights were so much worse. We tried a fade method about 6 or 8 months later, and that had better success, but his wakes ups were still the same as they always were.

dblhappiness · August 2009

kjunspice:

I didn't do "sleep training" per se. We read Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child. We did not follow everything in it, but the biggest thing I took away was to look for her sleep cues and start working from there. We were putting her to bed on our timeline, not hers. Once we adjusted that it seemed to help a lot.

We did do "CIO" for a few days, but we were fortunate in that she never cried more than 10 minutes, and slept through the night thereafter. So I wouldn't really consider that full-on CIO.

Good luck!

We did the same thing...read the same book and went looking and learning their sleep cues. We also got their naps on a particular routine and that helped a lot!

BTW, kjunspice---**love** your siggy!!

alibee09 · August 2009

kittylove:
Anyone not do Ferber/CIO and have it work? We tried No Cry Sleep Solution and we all cried and no one slept. We did it for three nights before giving up. He was up and crying more on night 3 than night 1.
Sidenote: I am in a much better place this am than last night.

Honestly, three days of No Cry Sleep Solution is not nearly enough -- that is supposed to be a long-term fix (it took people months for it to work, and part of me wonders what aspect was the book and what was developmental changes). Three days, though, would still have you firmly in "logging" land.

When I decided to revamp K's schedule I started by writing down her current patterns and then my goals. Then, observing/logging her patterns helped me identify what the main things that caused her to wake were.

MrsEmm · August 2009

alibee09:
kittylove:
Anyone not do Ferber/CIO and have it work? We tried No Cry Sleep Solution and we all cried and no one slept. We did it for three nights before giving up. He was up and crying more on night 3 than night 1.
Sidenote: I am in a much better place this am than last night.?
Honestly, three days of No Cry Sleep Solution is not nearly enough -- that is supposed to be a long-term fix (it took people months for it to work, and part of me wonders what aspect was the book and what was developmental changes). Three days, though, would still have you firmly in "logging" land.
When I decided to revamp K's schedule I started by writing down her current patterns and then my goals. Then, observing/logging her patterns helped me identify what the main things that caused her to wake were.

when did you start?the?no-cry sleep solution & how is it going??

kittylove · August 2009

Alison:

There was just no way we could do months of that. The first night i got an hour of sleep. Riley slept more than that but I didn't. Second night 4 hours and the third night I slept one 2 hour stretch, that is it. I just couldn't do it again.

As for logging his pattens I have been doing that every day and night for months and months and months. It hasn't helped. There is no pattern.

linnychanel · August 2009

I think the reason why most people ferber is because its quick and it works for most babies. Do you have the book baby 411? They have a sleep section that rates all methods and gives a brief overview. I remember reading that the no cry sleep solution is great but can take months. Boo for that! Momma needs her sleep!

kittylove · August 2009

linnychanel:
I think the reason why most people ferber is because its quick and it works for most babies. Do you have the book baby 411? They have a sleep section that rates all methods and gives a brief overview. I remember reading that the no cry sleep solution is great but can take months. Boo for that! Momma needs her sleep!

That is why we gave up. At this point I need something that will work in 5 days or less. I just can't do something that takes longer.

Celyn · August 2009

Do you know what's causing him to wake so frequently? Teething? Gas? Reflux? New milestones? If there's no pattern, I wouldn't think it's habit. Seems like there's something else going on.

kittylove · August 2009

Celyn:
Do you know what's causing him to wake so frequently? Teething? Gas? Reflux? New milestones? If there's no pattern, I wouldn't think it's habit. Seems like there's something else going on.

At first he reverse cycled with feeding, then it was reflux. For the last 3 maybe 4 weeks everything has been good, minus one night of teething. So at this point it is just habit, I think.

alibee09 · August 2009

MrsEmm:
when did you start the no-cry sleep solution & how is it going?

I ended in May, after 32 days, because I got her from waking once an hour to 3-4 times a night, which was my goal. Lately she's had a terrible time going down thanks to teething and developmental milestones (her obsession with standing means that if I don't put her down mostly asleep she'll stand in her crib and yell), but once we get her down, she's still mostly within my "reasonable" number of wakings (3-4).

KellyMRocks · August 2009

We didn't do any sleep training and you know my views on CIO, so I wont get into that at all.

I did just want to mention that frequent wakings are normal when working on new milestones. You mentioned him being able to sit up recently. With G, sleep was ALL messed up when he learned to sit up, then just before crawling and again just before walking. Could that be part of the frequent waking issue? Hopefully that means that there is an end in sight for you. I know during the first year it seems like there is ALWAYS something going on to screw with sleep. whether it is a new milestone, reflux or teething. I hope you find a solution or at least are able to get help so that you can get some sleep.

Celyn · August 2009

Ditto what Kelly said about sitting up being a huge milestone on the way to crawling.

Lucky him to have only one night of teething pain. Aaron typically takes a week or more to cut a tooth.

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