1st Trimester

Swine flu - pretty scary

Reading the urgency about how pregnant women will be in the "superhigh priority" group to get vaccinated is kinda nerve-wracking.  What if the flu is widespread before the vaccine comes out?

https://health.usnews.com/blogs/on-women/2009/07/30/pregnant-women-will-be-included-in-h1n1-flu-vaccine-trials.html

Re: Swine flu - pretty scary

  • I never, ever, ever get vaccinated and I'm pretty sure I will this year.
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  • Last year was my first year getting the flu shot, and I will for sure this year.  This is the first question on my list to talk to my OB about.  Hopefully there will be enough. 
  • imageLeah&Jack:

    You don't think it's widespread now?

    Articles like this are posted everyday. It is scary, but out of our control right now. I just asked my OB today if I should get the shot and he said yes, as soon as it's available.

     

    Of course it's widespread now, but when school starts back up, it can pick up like a wildfire. 

  • It's scary and even scarier since I can't get the vaccine (I'm allergic to the chicken byproducts they use in flu vaccines). I think I will be a hermit until this baby comes which luckily I can do for the most part since I can work from home.
  • Well it's already a pandemic.

    You can only control what you can control.  Until you can get vaccinated, take the normal precautions and do what you can.  No point in worrying about it.

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  • epphdepphd member
    imageStarAnnice:

    imagebabygirlpriest:
    I never, ever, ever get vaccinated and I'm pretty sure I will this year.

     

    Same here.  This will be the first year I get vaccinated for the flu AND swine flu.  I didn't get the flu vac when I was pregnant for my first child.  But, this one is such a different circumstance.  In my mind, I'd rather err on the cautious side than be wrong, not get the vaccine, and have a terrible outcome.  To each his own, I have nothing against people NOT getting the vaccine, but this just helps me to feel better.

    What is so different about "this one"?  If you are referring to the actual illness, you know it's not any more virulent or contageous than seasonal flu, and has killed FAR fewer people than seasonal flu does every year, right? And that the special considerations for pregnant women have nothing to do with swine flu itself, but rather reflect the fact that pregnant women are more succeptible to illnesses generally?

    I too have no problem with people getting a vaccine, or not - but it's important to know that aside from the fact that this flu is happening at a different time of year, it's not more dangerous than the standard flu, and is much less likely to kill you than, say, getting in a car to go to work.

    The hysteria over this is more dangerous than anything.

    From the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/qa.htm

    How does novel H1N1 flu compare to seasonal flu in terms of its severity and infection rates?
    CDC is still learning about the severity of novel H1N1 flu virus. At this time, there is not enough information to predict how severe novel H1N1 flu outbreak will be in terms of illness and death or how it will compare with seasonal influenza.

    With seasonal flu, we know that seasons vary in terms of timing, duration and severity. Seasonal influenza can cause mild to severe illness, and at times can lead to death. Each year, in the United States, on average 36,000 people die from flu-related complications and more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from flu-related causes. Of those hospitalized, 20,000 are children younger than 5 years old. Over 90% of deaths and about 60 percent of hospitalization occur in people older than 65.

    So far, with novel H1N1 flu, the largest number of novel H1N1 flu confirmed and probable cases have occurred in people between the ages of 5 and 24-years-old. At this time, there are few cases and no deaths reported in people older than 64 years old, which is unusual when compared with seasonal flu.  However, pregnancy and other previously recognized high risk medical conditions from seasonal influenza appear to be associated with increased risk of complications from this novel H1N1.

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  • I think the reason everyone is getting caught up with swine flu is because a higher number of pregnant women came down with it than is normal. The first casualty in the US was a pregnant woman in Texas who had a csection while in a coma, and then she died. I don't usually get all into the hype from avian, swine, or bloody canine flu (made the last one up), but I am not just thinking about one person this time. I don't think the hype about getting pregnant women inoculated is more dangerous than the flu is. I think ignorance is.
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  • I actually know someone that grew up with the lady that passed away in Texas. She denied any treatment when she first got sick and by the time they figured out what the illness was (3 weeks later) it had developed into other things as well. As long as you take care of yourself you are going to be okay.
  • I don't think it was hostile or necessarily argumentative--she was just stating facts. It truly HAS been sensationalized by the media.

     

    Anyway, I am honestly not that concerned about the swine flu any more than I am about the "normal" flu, and will not be getting any vaccines.   If I become ill, I will go to the doctor promptly.  If I die from this illness, maybe it is just "my time."  Shrug.

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    imageStarAnnice:

    Wow!  The hostility!  Mind you, I stated my view and my reasoning and said that each person is welcome to make their own choice.  I did NOT ask for this hostility.

    The reason it is different for me this time around, since you're so insistant on needing to know and argue with me, is that;

    1. I'm older than I was the first time I was pregnant.

    2. I already have an underlying lung condition.

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    3. The first death from the H1N1 in my state was a friend of mine, who I saw on a regular basis.  She very well could have picked it up from the place we frequented daily. 

    Happy?  Thanks for upsetting a pregnant woman.  Do you feel better about yourself now?  As I said, we all have our reasons, those are mine.  I didn't feel I needed to go into further detail, but there you go.

    Star, I take no exception to your choice - the way your comment was worded seemed to indicate that your decision was based on the virus itself, not your personal health history.  And if that was the case, I think it's important to know that the virus itself is not more dangerous.   You are not the only person on the board who is discussing swine flu and my comments were not pointed at you personally nor were they meant to "upset a pregnant lady (since I too am one - not sure where you got that!) My comment was meant generally toward those with the perception that somehow this virus is going to be the death of all of us.

    I know you are scared and, again, I take no exception to people making decisions for their own personal reasons.  I do however, think it is important to be informed - which is why I posted the CDC info.

    And yea, I hear ya on the lung thing. I have chronic asthma and have had pneumonia 3 times in the last 6 years - my personal choice will be to practice fastidious personal hygeine and skip the vaccine.  good news for you is that means one more dose available :)

    Seriously - don't take this personally - I wasn't picking on you.

     

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  • I am going to get the H1N1 vaccine as soon as it is available. Here is why:

    1. Pregnant women are more likely to have severe complications from the flu

    2. I am hopeful that the antibodies I will develop in response to the vaccine the vaccine will be passed along to my baby through breast feeding.

    3. The seasonal flu vaccine has been shown to be safe in pregnancy. They are making the H1N1 flu vaccine using the same techniques, ingredients, etc.

    4. I work in health care and believe I will be exposed to H1N1 at work.

     All that being said, I am nervous about taking a flu vaccine that contains thimerosal (a mercury preservative). So I am hoping there is a thimerosal-free option (as there is for the seasonal flu vaccine).

  • epphdepphd member
    imageStarAnnice:

    The hostility was when you typed, "What is so different about 'this one?'" I know it's difficult to relay tone in the things you type, and perhaps this was poorly worded.  But, it came across as rude and hostile to me. 

    And, yes, I took it personally because you quoted and changed some of my text to bold when you replied with your text. 

    The way my post was worded was completely how I feel, this time, it's a different circumstance.  Apparently, when I reply to questions, I'll need to go into much more detail from now on.  And, perhaps, when you quote someone and draw attention to a certain part of their post, you will realize that you ARE making it personal.  If you don't mean for something to be personal, please don't quote someone. 

    BTW, in my situation, I can use the best personal hygeine possible, however, I have a child in school who can very easily bring it into my car, house, etc., when I pick him up from there and bring him home.  So, no matter how meticulous my hygeine may be, it may not make a difference. 

     Again, to each his own.   

    Easy there, tiger.  You're getting worked up over nothing.  On this and other message boards, bolding a part of a post is clarifying the point, not "making it personal." Feel free to think my comments were personal, but that couldn't be farther from the truth.  Enjoy the rest of first tri. Huh?

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  • mrs.ozmrs.oz member
    I really have to do some more research.  This vaccine is going to have thimerosol in it, which has mercury.  I'm not sure at this point if it's enough mercury to harm a fetus.  Still have to do some more research and talk to the OB before I make a decision.  
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