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My biggest pet peeve about the vax thing.

People using the "religious exemption" when they do NOT object for religious reasons.  It's smacks of dishonesty IMO.  The religious exemption is not there so you can get around vax laws, it's for people who truly have a religious reason for not vaxing their kids.

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Re: My biggest pet peeve about the vax thing.

  • In our school system they are really strict about this. If you choose to not vax for religious reasons you cannot vax at all. They don't let you pick and choose and if you get caught selectively vaccinating they have the right to deny your child schooling until you get fully vaxed.
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  • Yes, but in states where there is no legal philosophical objection it is your only recourse. What else should one do if they so strongly object?
  • imageMrsJeffsWife2B:
    Yes, but in states where there is no legal philosophical objection it is your only recourse. What else should one do if they so strongly object?

    go to private school, homeschool, move, but lying about it is just wrong, IMO.

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  • imageMrsJeffsWife2B:
    Yes, but in states where there is no legal philosophical objection it is your only recourse. What else should one do if they so strongly object?

    homeschool. done and done. 

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    go to private school, homeschool, move, but lying about it is just wrong, IMO.

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  • If a parent feels really strongly about it, I don't blame them for using the only exemption available to them.

    I personally pro-vaccine, but I support other parents' right to make choices about their kids.  Even if it makes me uncomfortable.  I suppose if the non vaxing thing continues to increase, and my child is put at a higher risk, then I would feel differently.  But non-vaxing just isn't a common thing with the parents I know and I know it's not an issue with the other daycare kids in DD's class.

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    If a parent feels really strongly about it, I don't blame them for using the only exemption available to them.

    I personally pro-vaccine, but I support other parents' right to make choices about their kids.  Even if it makes me uncomfortable.  I suppose if the non vaxing thing continues to increase, and my child is put at a higher risk, then I would feel differently.  But non-vaxing just isn't a common thing with the parents I know and I know it's not an issue with the other daycare kids in DD's class.

    they have the right to do what they want with their kid, but they don't have the right to lie about or break the law.  as I stated before there are other alternatives to public school if one's state doesn't offer a different exemption.

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  • go to private school, homeschool, move, but lying about it is just wrong, IMO.

    THIS!

  • All you have to say is "I religiously oppose vaccines." They can't ask any more questions. That's hardly lying.

    FWIW, I do have religious objections to vaccines and I also will not need an exemption as we are homeschooling.

  • See, if I really felt my kid was at risk for something, and I felt compelled to protect her, I would do ANYTHING to protect her.  While I am an honest and direct person, I would absolutely lie if I thought I was putting my child's health at risk.  So I don't blame these parents for lying because I know their intentions are to protect their children.

    Where it does bother me a bit, is that they have a responsibility to MY child also.  I don't know where to draw the line though.....I respect the choices not to vaccinate, but I believe there should be some consequences to that choice that also protect MY kid from the increased risk of exposure they are creating. 

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  • imagegoodheartedmommy:

    All you have to say is "I religiously oppose vaccines." They can't ask any more questions. That's hardly lying.

    FWIW, I do have religious objections to vaccines and I also will not need an exemption as we are homeschooling.

    It IS lying if you don't have religious objections (if they ask questions or not), as you honestly do, this is not directed at you.

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  • imageMrsJeffsWife2B:
    Yes, but in states where there is no legal philosophical objection it is your only recourse. What else should one do if they so strongly object?

    Homeschool or send their kid to private school.

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  • imageAmrice78:

    People using the "religious exemption" when they do NOT object for religious reasons.  It's smacks of dishonesty IMO.  The religious exemption is not there so you can get around vax laws, it's for people who truly have a religious reason for not vaxing their kids.

    I absolutely agree with you.

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    imageMrsJeffsWife2B:
    Yes, but in states where there is no legal philosophical objection it is your only recourse. What else should one do if they so strongly object?

    Homeschool or send their kid to private school.

    Riiiiiiiiight. Because EVERYONE has the luxurious option of being a one income household or sending their kids to private shcool.

  • And one more thing: I believe that in states where philosophical objections don't exist private schools require a religious exemption as well.

    And why is it OK to have a religious objection and not a philosophical one anyhow?

  • imageMrsJeffsWife2B:
    imageiris427:

    imageMrsJeffsWife2B:
    Yes, but in states where there is no legal philosophical objection it is your only recourse. What else should one do if they so strongly object?

    Homeschool or send their kid to private school.

    Riiiiiiiiight. Because EVERYONE has the luxurious option of being a one income household or sending their kids to private shcool.

    *Shrug*  Sorry, I think the public welfare comes first here.

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  • But a religion is simply a set of beliefs and practices.  Atheism is a "religion".  So there may be some people who are "crunchy", but not necessarily religious, who have a strong belief system that keeps them from wanting to vaccinate. 

    I wouldn't call it lying if they marked a box saying they aren't going to vaccinate because of religious reasons, because their personal convictions could be the same thing for them.

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