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OK, I'll say it....re: Jacko
I don't dispute that Michael Jackson was a huge mega-star or that he had amazing talent. And I am very sorry to hear about his passing at such an early age, in such a tragic way.
But everyone is talking about him as though he were putting out major hits year after year. Thriller was an amazing album, Bad was great...and since then the hits had been few and far between.
There seems to be very little talk about the fact that he was repeatedly accused of abusing and taking advantage of children (not just inviting them into his bed but giving the alcohol too). To me, the interview he did where he stated that it was perfectly natural to share your bed with a child just sent me over the edge. Is he kidding?? Not with someone else's child you idiot? Having Fudgie climb in bed with us on a weekend morning is such fun but his remark was just creepy! Dangling his kid? Crazy plastic surgery? He had no sense of reality I think.
He seemed to just spiral deeper and deeper into the odd behaviour coupled with the accusations of abuse. It seems like it all got in the way of the talent. I wouldn't wish his life on anyone, he never had a moment in his life to just be 'normal' and I'm sure he had 'vultures' all around him (including the possibility of false accusations, I recognize that).
I think he was an amazing talent that just got derailed by a life with no boundaries, no balance, no one who ever cared about him enough to 'bring him back down to earth'. But I also think he very likely abused these kids and took advantage of their admiration & trust.
Sad all around.
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Re: OK, I'll say it....re: Jacko
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EJ is growing up too fast!
I totally agree. And I think that people are mourning the MJ that we remember as kids...the jacko before the crazies took over his mind. Nothing can ever excuse his behavior of the 90's and 2000's. But in the early 80's....he was king of pop. And will probably be remembered as such. I know I for one mourned his "good" days as the freak took over. Once the freak took over, he became Jacko. Until someone can explain why he chose to have the surgeries he had or explain why he turned from a talented african-american singer to some bleached out freak-a-zoid....he'll just remain a freak to me. But when people talk about "Micheal Jackson", I'll remember Billy Jean and PYT and Thriller and all the other awesome songs from those first 3 solo albums.
when it comes to MJ, people have blinders on. they remember the music but they seem to ignore the fact that in his personal life he was a freak - pure and simple.
dh and i were talking last night - remember how macauley caulkin at the height of his fame when he was a kid was a constant companion to MJ- well, we're waiting for the tell all book from MC. should be VERY interesting.
I totally agree and I am just sick of the constant new coverage of his death. ?I'm a news junkie at heart and there is so much more going on that we could be focused on right now then his death. ?Last night the national news made some absurd statement about how this tour was going to rescue his finances, ummm yeah after telling us that eventhough he made 20 mil last year he spent twice that. ?I wish my finances needed that kind of rescuing.
Sorry to hijack your thoughts but I think he was an awful person and I don't think it is any loss to the world that he is no longer apart of it.?
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I think that his death was tragic. Unlike Sweetie P, I rocked out to BAD and even Scream so I was a fan until the end. Fortunately my life is not under a microscope and does not have the media eager to chop me to bits and feed me to the lions. I would not want to be in his shoes so I certainly will not judge "his life"-- I never knew Michael Jackson. I do find it hard to believe that parents can be "bought off" to bury molestation....shame on them if they did but I'm a little suspicious. As for dangling the child, I'd never do that to my child (no offense but I've seen men do stupider things-- how many of us have seen mother's push their strollers 3 feet into ongoing traffic to check and see if there are any cars coming) still I'd like to think that he was able to because he had the grip of Zeus on his child.
In any case, I have no idea what is true or false and I don't pretend to but he is sewn into the fabric of both mine and my mother's childhoods (he and my mother are actually the same age), my family in Brazil grew up dancing to his music as well. There just aren't many artists that I can say that about.
I do not watch TV in general so I have no idea how focused the news is on his death but his story is a tragic one and I think that it's important to not let the "bad" that he allegedly did overshadow all of the good. From a philanthropic standpoint, he's made a huge dent on humanity (not just Americans but people worldwide). People forget about that. I would never call someone else "a freak" there are many people who bleach their skin and I say, whatever rocks your boat. I would just say that he exercised his artistic license to the fullest extent, it's what artists do.
But I applaud you in sharing your sentiment in lieu of everyone who threw stones at him months ago suddenly hoping on the "Saint Michael Jackson" bandwagon!
Perfectly said. Ditto this.
I've been wanting to share my thoughts, but haven't on the boards at all. And, my thoughts have changed and shifted a bit in the last few days, so I do feel like I can finally articulate (though it'll probably be long and over-explainy)...but here goes...
I think the only thing we really know for sure about MJ is that he did not have a life anything like anything we can possibly imagine. Some things I believe to be true though are that he was a victim of abuse himself. He was forced into a crazy spotlight as a child...a spotlight he NEVER got out of for even 2 seconds in his entire life. He was one of the most famous people in the entire world ever...and therefore, he had so very little privacy, and so very little perspective. I can only imagine the issues he must have rightfully had with trust. Who could he honestly trust? Who could he be sure was being honest and real with him? IMO, the only types of people in the world who are real and don't so much let fame and fortune completely take over how they treat a person are children. I think he had an inappropriate love for children, and longed to stay a child himself...maybe he just never learned how to be a grown up. I think it's pretty obvious he had a completely bizarre childhood himself. I think he longed to be a perpetual child, to have children all around him..."play mates" that were real with him, who he could relate to, etc. It was inappropriate...it IS inappropriate for a grown man to have someone else's child in their bed...it is. No question. But, I really don't think he meant or intended to be inappropriate. I think in his mind he probably wished he was a 13 yo boy himself and he could hang out and have sleepovers with his buddies and no one would think it inappropriate. When you look at all that he did for humanity, all that he spoke about and wrote about and seemed to care for, I just don't think he was a vicious monster out to hurt children.
Further, I think that he settled out of court with some of the accuser families (which, ask yourself - if your son was molested, would you take money and allow the creep to go out with the ability to hurt other children? Or prosecute the crap out of the guy and watch his a$$ go to jail?) but wasn't he also tried and acquitted?!...(according to wiki, that's true...don't have a more reliable source). He was acquitted! I don't doubt he was inappropriate, but I do doubt he actually molested the children, and I doubt seriously he intended harm. And obviously, whoever was in charge of prosecuting him for those crimes (because he WAS tried and acquitted...NOT settled!!) couldn't prove it happened at all.
As for the bleaching of his skin and all the surgeries - he's been under a microscope by people all over the entire WORLD for his entiiiiire life! I mean, if you look at how little fame and fortune (by comparison) someone like Tracy Gold had as a young actress and it led to her battle (almost to death) with anorexia and bulimia, it baffles me a bit that more people aren't understanding that someone who was under such a much more intense microscope for his entire life (never having a base for growing values to understand all the things that are more important than looks, etc) would do things to attempt to "improve" his appearance. Did he take it too far? Indisputable. But really? It's hard to understand why? It's not at all hard for me to understand why. Look at any Hollywood actress who's gone under the knife...look at Meg Ryan's lips! And Meg Ryan wasn't a child star. She doesn't have nearly the audience staring at her day in and day out...for her ENTIRE LIFE. Yet, she "improved" her looks and it looks awful (IMO). MJ took it to the extremes b/c what element of his life wasn't completely extreme? How can we expect him to have had an appropriate measure of how much is too much?
Anyway, I'm rambling...but those are my thoughts. I feel sad for his family, sad for his children, sad for his fans and sad that we won't get to see what he might have shared with the world later in his life. But, I also think he had such a sad life that maybe death is his blessing. And I wish him peace.
Ditto to justk and stef.
my mom and I were talking about this exectly today. About how we thought he must have longed for a childhood that he lost and why he had such a connection with children.
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i love his music...but I agree, he was just weird... stuck in a world of fantasy....I think 'his best' was in the 80s...anything recent was just failures in my opinion....plus he spent more money than he earned...
He was just weird....and janet jackson is 'weird' too.