Con. What is the world coming to when the gays have the same rights as us normal folk? Next thing you know the blacks will be allowed to vote..... oh wait.
In all honesty I can't even understand the "con" side of the argument. There are so many bad things in this world today, why don't these people pit themselves against a more worthy cause? Be anti-war, or anti-rape, or anti-starvation. Once we live in a peaceful world, then you can waste your time being anti-love, if you still want to be.
Con. What is the world coming to when the gays have the same rights as us normal folk? Next thing you know the blacks will be allowed to vote..... oh wait.
I understand the need to have the rights of a married couple for reasons of health insurance, immigration, adoption, etc.
However, I don't understand the vehemence of this argument on either side. Why do people need to call themselves "married." And why are other people so against non-traditional couples using that term?
Marriage, in the sense of it's recognition in our country, is a legal contract. How or why religious issues have anything to do with allowing two consenting adults to enter into the legal contract is beyond me. Sure, maybe churches wont recognize a same sex marriage, but they also dont recognize MY marriage (got married without having my first marriage annulled within the chuch) but my marriage is still LEGALLY valid and recognized.
I understand the need to have the rights of a married couple for reasons of health insurance, immigration, adoption, etc.
However, I don't understand the vehemence of this argument on either side. Why do people need to call themselves "married." And why are other people so against non-traditional couples using that term?
I can understand the vehemence of the pro side. They're specifically being denied something that everyone else is allowed to have, just b/c of their sexual preference. That would piss me off. Actually, it does piss me off.
For the life of me, I can't undertand the other side. What does it matter to you what the people next door (or in the next state more likely) are doing? Why on earth would you care?
However, I don't understand the vehemence of this argument on either side. Why do people need to call themselves "married." And why are other people so against non-traditional couples using that term?
I understand the need to have the rights of a married couple for reasons of health insurance, immigration, adoption, etc.
However, I don't understand the vehemence of this argument on either side. Why do people need to call themselves "married." And why are other people so against non-traditional couples using that term?
I can understand the vehemence of the pro side. They're specifically being denied something that everyone else is allowed to have, just b/c of their sexual preference. That would piss me off. Actually, it does piss me off.
For the life of me, I can't undertand the other side. What does it matter to you what the people next door (or in the next state more likely) are doing? Why on earth would you care?
I guess I think that there would be so much less resistance to the rights of gay couples if the word "marriage" wasn't used, and most of those rights would come about so much faster. I don't get the willingness to sacrifice those other things for the word. I also don't really get the con side either though.
In most arguments, I can usually see both sides. Even if I disagree, I can understand where both sides are coming from. Not in this case. I cannot understand why blatant discrimination is OK to some people. Sorry.
I think what would solve the issue is if we made civil unions for everyone. Marriage is a religious term and has no place in government. If people want to get "married," go do it in your religious institution. Civil unions for everyone makes way more sense.
In all honesty I can't even understand the "con" side of the argument. There are so many bad things in this world today, why don't these people pit themselves against a more worthy cause? Be anti-war, or anti-rape, or anti-starvation. Once we live in a peaceful world, then you can waste your time being anti-love, if you still want to be.
I think what would solve the issue is if we made civil unions for everyone. Marriage is a religious term and has no place in government. If people want to get "married," go do it in your religious institution. Civil unions for everyone makes way more sense.
So I'd have to say that I am civilly unionized instead of married? I think that would cause more problems than just opening up the same rights to marriage to everyone.
Well, if you took away the religious connotation, why would super right wing religious people need to care (although I guess they would anyway, because they seem to have something to say about everything).
I think what would solve the issue is if we made civil unions for everyone. Marriage is a religious term and has no place in government. If people want to get "married," go do it in your religious institution. Civil unions for everyone makes way more sense.
Marriage is a vital social institution. The exclusive commitment of two individuals to each other nurtures love and mutual support. Without question, marriage enhances the welfare of the community. It is a social institution of the highest importance. Marriage also bestows enormous private and social advantages on those who choose to marry. Marriage is at once a deeply personal commitment to another human being and a highly public celebration of the ideals of mutuality, companionship, intimacy, fidelity, and family. Because it fulfils yearnings for security, safe haven, and connection that express our common humanity, marriage is an esteemed institution and the decision whether and who to marry is among life's momentous acts of self-definition. It is undoubtedly for these concrete reasons, as well as for its intimately personal significance, that marriage has long been termed a "civil right.?
Chief Justice Margaret H. Mitchell, Goodridge v. Department of Health (Mass. 2003
I honestly don't know how the laws that prevent gay marriage in some states were justified...this is obiviously not "equal rights". It's not my business to judge people based on their orientation
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And marriage is not just a religious term. You can have a secular marriage in the US, be married by a justice of the peace at city hall, etc. I don't know why people think marriage is religious only. Gay people and non-religious people shouldn't be stuck with "civil unions." Everyone deserves the right to marry another consenting adult.
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Re: Ok...gay marriage - pro or con
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LOL
Con. What is the world coming to when the gays have the same rights as us normal folk? Next thing you know the blacks will be allowed to vote..... oh wait.
Crap.
Pro.
In all honesty I can't even understand the "con" side of the argument. There are so many bad things in this world today, why don't these people pit themselves against a more worthy cause? Be anti-war, or anti-rape, or anti-starvation. Once we live in a peaceful world, then you can waste your time being anti-love, if you still want to be.
Pro-
To me the def of marriage is the union of two people. And if they are happy then why does it matter to me?
LMAO.
I understand the need to have the rights of a married couple for reasons of health insurance, immigration, adoption, etc.
However, I don't understand the vehemence of this argument on either side. Why do people need to call themselves "married." And why are other people so against non-traditional couples using that term?
Will not take the bait.
::backs slowly out of post::
Pro.
Marriage, in the sense of it's recognition in our country, is a legal contract. How or why religious issues have anything to do with allowing two consenting adults to enter into the legal contract is beyond me. Sure, maybe churches wont recognize a same sex marriage, but they also dont recognize MY marriage (got married without having my first marriage annulled within the chuch) but my marriage is still LEGALLY valid and recognized.
I can understand the vehemence of the pro side. They're specifically being denied something that everyone else is allowed to have, just b/c of their sexual preference. That would piss me off. Actually, it does piss me off.
For the life of me, I can't undertand the other side. What does it matter to you what the people next door (or in the next state more likely) are doing? Why on earth would you care?
I agree.
Ha! My thoughts exactly! LOL!
I knew I liked this board.
I'm pro. I don't really want to get married but I am not going to tell people who do not to.
Me too. Sometimes, it's like everyone is living in Canada!
I guess I think that there would be so much less resistance to the rights of gay couples if the word "marriage" wasn't used, and most of those rights would come about so much faster. I don't get the willingness to sacrifice those other things for the word. I also don't really get the con side either though.
Pro. 100%.
In most arguments, I can usually see both sides. Even if I disagree, I can understand where both sides are coming from. Not in this case. I cannot understand why blatant discrimination is OK to some people. Sorry.
My silly Lily is almost 4.
Pro-
I think what would solve the issue is if we made civil unions for everyone. Marriage is a religious term and has no place in government. If people want to get "married," go do it in your religious institution. Civil unions for everyone makes way more sense.
this!
So I'd have to say that I am civilly unionized instead of married? I think that would cause more problems than just opening up the same rights to marriage to everyone.
aokiedokie
This is interesting.
Pro.
oh Lord.
Is this going to get messy. If it does, somebody better send me a facebook message, cause I am going to go work in the yard!
Oh, and I am Pro Marriage. the following quote was on my wedding programs (forgive me if the formatting is a mess)
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Marriage is a vital social institution. The exclusive commitment of two individuals to each other nurtures love and mutual support. Without question, marriage enhances the welfare of the community. It is a social institution of the highest importance. Marriage also bestows enormous private and social advantages on those who choose to marry. Marriage is at once a deeply personal commitment to another human being and a highly public celebration of the ideals of mutuality, companionship, intimacy, fidelity, and family. Because it fulfils yearnings for security, safe haven, and connection that express our common humanity, marriage is an esteemed institution and the decision whether and who to marry is among life's momentous acts of self-definition. It is undoubtedly for these concrete reasons, as well as for its intimately personal significance, that marriage has long been termed a "civil right.? Chief Justice Margaret H. Mitchell, Goodridge v. Department of Health (Mass. 2003Pro-
I honestly don't know how the laws that prevent gay marriage in some states were justified...this is obiviously not "equal rights". It's not my business to judge people based on their orientation
Pro 100%
And marriage is not just a religious term. You can have a secular marriage in the US, be married by a justice of the peace at city hall, etc. I don't know why people think marriage is religious only. Gay people and non-religious people shouldn't be stuck with "civil unions." Everyone deserves the right to marry another consenting adult.