Here is the update some of you are waiting for.
DH talked to a lawyer, because he is not on SD's birth certificate (State of SC doesn't allow another man's name on the BC if the mother is married to someone else). He has no legal standing to get custody. So, if he were to call CPS there is a possibility that if they removed the kids, SD wouldn't be given to us, but rather end up in foster care. BTW - it will cost us $10,000 to petition for paternity.
However, DH did talk to BM. He talked with SD first, then called BM. BM explained what happened, and she said exactly what SD said happened was true. She also said that after it happened she told her bf if anything like that happened again she would leave with the kids.
DH told her straight out that we aren't sure if we are going to allow SD to return back to her on Saturday. THat SD is scared (and BM said she knew that), The ONLY way he would allow her to go over there was if the other child wasn't there. He told her if we found out that the they were we would call CPS whether SD went to us or a foster family. BM AGREED! He told her that if she ever finds herself having both girls she needs to call us IMMEDIATELY and we will come and pick up SD.
Basically if the other girl is there SD will not be and vice versa. BM agreed to everything! BM said she would call us in a few days and let us know what the schedule with the other girl is like next week...if she doesn't, SD doesn't go back and BM knows this. He also said that if there were any other issues with the other girl in that house that SD would be removed whether BM stayed or not. Again, BM said okay.
I am honestly really surprised BM didn't put up a fight about it. Granted she hasn't discussed this with her bf yet so things may change but DH put his foot down and is determined to stick to it. SD has said that she wants to see her mom but doesn't want to be there when the other child is there. DH asked BM "what if she does something to her while she is sleeping?" and BM said, "what is to prevent her from doing something to me while I am sleeping". I told DH, that was the whole freaking point! We know she would protect SD if she was able, but if she isn't then there is no one to protect her.
So that is where we are.
Re: Update: SD not going to BM's
RSVP Date: 2/28/2011
Thank you for the update. What a relief. I still can't believe BM would allow that to happen when she (now) obviously realizes how it was affecting SD.
I'm so happy you get to keep her.
Can you use this situation as a touch off point to get BM to help you get a real CO in place and getting your DH's paternity set?
Explain to BM that if something were to happen, SD would have to go into the Foster Care system unless these things were taken care of?
Thanks ladies. Here is what happens in the state of SC. If the mother is married to someone other than the father at the time of the baby's birth the husband is automatically assumed to be the father.
In our situation, BM had been separated from her husband (legally and physically - he lives in FL she lives here - for 4-5 years before SD was born).
An acknowledgement of paternity ONLY applies in the state of SC to unmarried mothers. If BM wanted to prove paternity she would have to request a DNA test for her husband and prove her husband isn't SD's father (yes, she is still married to this man) before she could request a DNA test for DH. The other option would be for DH to request a paternity test to prove he is SD's father. Unfortunately, vital statistics will only change her birth certificate if they are told by the court to do so - so we would have to get an attorney and go to court to establish paternity which will cost us $10,000.
Because SD doesn't have ANY father's name on her BC BM has the right to say that if anything should happen to her SD can go to DH, which she has. So we are covered if BM dies or is incapacitated, but may not be in other situations.
BM will not request a paternity test for her husband because she is afraid that if she does it will blow up in her face since he has sole custody of her oldest son (which CPS gave him before the other two kids were born) and hasn't paid a cent of child support in about 14 years. He has just asked to be left alone and hates BM.
SD feels better. She is alittle confused. After we told her what was happening she asked if she would be able to play with the other girl and we said probably not. We still have to work out some details and honestly this may finish off BM's relationship with her bf so things may change once again, not sure yet.
DH was feeling a little better but i is hard to see what is coming around this corner, so none of us feel especially secure about not having more issues crop up.
First, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
First, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
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First, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
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hopeFirst, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
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hope everythingFirst, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
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hope everything worksFirst, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
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hope everything works out forFirst, Im glad to hear that BM agreed that something had to be done to right the situation. Something should have been done ealier, but alteast she agrees.... Im always amazed when they do that!
Second, that law in SC is DUMB!!! In this day and age there is no reason to assume that just beacuse you are married to someone that they are the father... esp if they have been seperated for so long!! And to have the kid go to Foster care vs going with a relative.... thats just wrong!
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hope everything works out for everyone in theWHOA!!! I don't know what happened there!!
SORRY LADIES!!!
ok, first of all, WTF? That is crap about the birth certificate and the cost to petition for paternity, wow!
Second, at least BM agreed with DH and is working out a schedule, I just hope she keeps agreeing about the severity of this issue and takes it seriously!
RSVP Date: 2/28/2011
Is it possible for you all to get a paternity test on your own??? We do live in Texas but my DH's first wife cheated on him and had a baby. Ex wife agreed to having the baby and DH get a paternity test, this 100% excluded DH as the father of the child. They had the test before they had even been to court or saw the judge. If so, I would do that and hold on to the results so if something happened, you could present these results to the police, CPS or whom ever if you all needed to get custody of SD.
We have talked about and looked into getting a DNA test of our own that would hold up in court the DDC has a center in our area.
The same thought has crossed my mind as well about SD not being his, but they were together and planned to have her when BM got pregnant, they were living together (although DH thinks that at some point she was cheating on him). THe thing is that DH has raised SD since she was born, she did look a lot like him and other family members when she was a baby (not that it means much), he also raised her by himself for a couple of years. He would be devastated if he found out she weren't his and honestly she doesn't know anyone else to be her dad so I don't think it would make much difference, we couldn't/wouldn't turn our back on her.
RSVP Date: 2/28/2011
Taagent, my DH's ex-wife also chose to put no father on the birth certificate since she was still legally married to DH at the time. Once DH and her were actually divorced the judge adviced her to name the father and go after him for child support. I do not know if she ever did that.
In your case, if you all had a test and found out that SD was not your DH's that could complicate things more. I don't know, if I were you as long as biomom cooperates maybe I would leave well enough alone, but then again if something very serious happened you all could adopt her.
I hope everything works out.