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Jon & Kate..
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Re: Jon & Kate..
I was in tears for those kids. It was horrific to watch that episode today. And of course, we will never have a real perspective into what REALLY happened but I just don't think it should be that easy to get to rip those children's lives apart like that.
I'm still wiping tears from my eyes and my mouth keeps gapping open at what was said, the body language between the two of them, and thoughts of how they will move forward.
I just honestly cannot imagine!!!
eclaire 9.10.06 diggy 6.2.11
No mention of therapy. No mention of pastoral counseling (even though they profess to be UBER religious and she speaks nearly weekly at large churches for huge sums of money). No mention of individual counseling...nothing.
Just "he won't talk to me" and "she won't talk to me" - WELL GUESS WHAT! THAT WORKS WELL IN HIGHSCHOOL but not when you've brought EIGHT children into this world, decided to splattter their lives all over national television, decided to make your "home world" a Better Homes & Gardens/Ladies Home Journal blurb, and when you have aired all of your and your families dirty laundry to the world. Not to mention, they've admittedly ailenated every extended family member (some due to financial issues with the show! Kate did not want Aunt Jodi to be compensated for her extensive appearances on the show a few seasons back which has been admitted true!).
I'm devasted, sad, horribally moved for those children - not only do they have to deal with the trauma of divorce, the anger, the vile behaviors and the "coached" speaking (you can so so so tell that Kate & Jon have been coached by their lawyers on how to talk, act, etc. Kate has done a 180 in her ever single day behavior & attitude in the past 3 episodes...) but they also have to have documented proof as to why and how it all went down - we all do, on our DVRs....
So so sad!
[as you can tell, I'm really heated about this situation!]
It's heartbreaking!! I feel terrible for their kids. I realize it's a complicated situation, probably more so than we can know just from watching them on tv..but I said this on another board earlier..you have to earn your way out of a marriage. I did it myself many years ago before i even knew my wonderful DH, and was married to a not at all wonderful man. I tried everything..counselling of all kinds..pastoral, individual, couples..it was not working. But let me tell you I tried. i tried even though he was abusive, a liar, a cheater...i tried anyway because i thought maybe he could change. And we didn't even have kids ladies!
I just feel like they are not giving it a shot. From the show tonight I felt like it was him more than her that didn't want to try anymore. But I agree they should have quit the show long ago, to focus on their family. Those poor babies are going to blame themselves for the divorce, no matter how much therapy they have. It's so tragic.
And maybe Jon didn't want those sextuplets but he didnt have to go along with Kate. He could have spoken up years ago. I can honestly say tonight was the first time I felt sorry for Kate. Those poor kids.
I dunno- i guess i am in the minority on this one. (which is ok lol).
I just don't feel bad for them. Something my mom used to say, 'you make your bed then you have to sleep in it'
This just goes to show you- what happens when you don't put your spouse first.... and kids a VERY VERY close second. You have to make time for each other, grow together, laugh together, cry together, and fight together to resolve issues. if you don't you grow a part and a wedge drives in between-
IMHO- they put the show as Kate's "job" first. cared about making the money to support their newly acquired lifestyle. Do i honestly think for ONE SECOND that they would have these problems if they didn't have the show, the cameras, the book deal trips and signings to focus their attention on???? Not for one IOTA of a second. They (and i am not convinced it was a joint decision) CHOOSE to have cameras in their faces and paparratizzi following their every move. Choices have consequences.
they strayed from putting each other first- and then the nasty downward spial began.
Just my opinion.
Do i feel bad for the kids? of course. (i am not heartless... ) do i feel bad for them? nope. not at all.
Did anyone notice Jon saying something about how he was only 22 when he got married and that now he's got 8 kids??? It kind of made me think that this all (not just the show) wasn't what he signed up for....
I think maybe he is rebelling or having some sort of quasi-mid-life crisis. He said how now he is standing up for himself and not letting anyone tell him what to do.
Even though I don't agree with Kate on how she always treats Jon, I think you've kind of GOT to be a drill sargent when you've got that many kids. Especially when Jon doesn't always seem to make the best decisons. Like having those kids playhouses out in the woods so they would be 'hidden.' Ummm....I for sure would not want my 5 year old kids to be playing far, far away from my house like that where I couldn't see them unless I was right on top of them.
And I do think that Jon has just checked out and is D-O-N-E and just really wants nothing more to do with Kate and this whole situation. I feel horribly bad for the kids and even bad for Kate. No one deserves to be cheated on no matter what goes on in your marriage.
I wondered that too...do you think they are still under contract or that it would be something they could get out of??
Oh my gosh the show last night was horrible... those poor children. I feel like they truly need to get out of their contract with TLC and I can't believe that TLC which is really geared for families etc... is allowing this act to go on in front of millions and putting these children at higher risk.
I find it sick and you know they both worked before they had kids and when the kids were really little they should go back to work. Maybe not live the lifestyle they now live, but their house before was great they could of just added on to the house etc... over time. I really hope that this is not a huge plot to make more money and we will never know, but come one anyone that agrees to be on TV has to know that if the show makes it their will be paparazzi everywhere and they knew this going into it.
I don't feel sorry for either Jon or Kate, I feel sorry for those kids they are five now and five year olds are not stupid neither are Maddie and Cara. I just pray that someone is looking over those kids. Not saying that Jon and Kate are bad parents I don't even know them, but they are not helping their children by exploiting their family the way it is now.
that. exactly. And also: she's a freaking ballbusting shrew and I've have left her years ago.
I agree completely!
While I don't follow the show, it's hard to not hear about it these days and know what's going on. I think that the train-wreck outcome was inevitable, and I'm surprised that viewers could be surprised.
I totally agree with jenn7200.
This is totally my take, too. Maybe it was just for the camera, but Kate acted like she wanted to try to work through things, but Jon was having none of it.
Weird to look back at the early episodes--the two of them look sooooo different. They looked like regular, crazed parents, just doing their best to survive with 8 young children. Now they look "Hollywood-ized." Jon, with his earrings. Kate, with her super slick hair-do. They both changed, for sure, but he seems like he just woke up one day and thought, "Whoa. This is not where I want to be AT ALL."
The lack of communication and no attempt (at least that we know of) at seeking counseling to salvage this marriage and family is awful. And please, Jon and Kate (esp Jon), stop saying this is what's best for the kids. What's best for the kids is for you both to realize you are in a serious commitment, and at least try to work on things before putting your children through the life-changing trauma of a divorce.