Trying to Get Pregnant

Update from the ultrasound

So the ultrasound results were not good, but not terrible. Good news first: my uterine lining looks good ? no problems there. But that?s where the good news ends.

First, I talked to my doctor more about why I?m on Clomid (for clarification). He said that while I?ve had temp changes, I?ve likely never had an ovulation strong enough to get pg because my hormones were all out of whack.

He described my CM as ?terrible.? He said it might improve over the next couple days, but if not next month we?re going to do estrogen and /or IUI. I think he?s leaning toward IUI.

I only had one follicle that even looked close to promising (right side). I forgot to ask about the measurement, but he said if I do ovulate it will probably still be a few days. There were a few tiny, insignificant follies on the left side.  Depending on what the next ultrasound says, he may up the Clomid dose next month.

Going forward, he wants me to call him when I get a +OPK and he?ll do another ultrasound and possibly yet another after supposed ovulation.

This news is really challenging my new positive outlook on TTC, but I?m not going to let it get me down. I will get knocked up eventually.

Re: Update from the ultrasound

  • I think it's great your doctor is so involved and proactive!  Good luck!
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  • I'm sorry you didnt get the best of news!  Lets hope for a +Opk get a few more answers!  I will be thinking of you!!
  • it sounds like you have a great doctor! Hang in there!!
  • I'm so sorry Savat.. I'm glad, that like Cathy, you have a plan in place. I know it's tough to keep a positive outlook, but you're doing a good job at it. :) Keep us posted..

    Also, if you don't mind me asking :) How did you go about asking for specific testing from your doc prior to hitting the 12 month mark? You & Cathy really have me wanting to go get all this stuff checked out.

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  • I'm sorry for the dissapointing news Savat. I'm sure your effort to keeep a positive out look on everything will make the process just a bit more bearable.
  • I am sorry for the not so great news, but I agree with PP- you have a good doctor, it sounds like! GL!!
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  • I'm sorry you didn't get great news! I am glad you still have a positive outlook.
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  • It sounds like you dr really knows his stuff! I'm sorry for the difficult news, but at least your dr has a good handle on whats going on!

    GL and I'll be thinking of you! 

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  • imageloloindiego:

    I'm so sorry Savat.. I'm glad, that like Cathy, you have a plan in place. I know it's tough to keep a positive outlook, but you're doing a good job at it. :) Keep us posted..

    Also, if you don't mind me asking :) How did you go about asking for specific testing from your doc prior to hitting the 12 month mark? You & Cathy really have me wanting to go get all this stuff checked out.

    I've been off BCP for a year and charting, just wasn't TTC the first few months (even then though we weren't TTA). Almost every month I spotted by 6DPO and my LP was short. My dr is very proactive so when I told him about my concerns he jumped in gear and started ordering tests. His philosophy is that if you're having well timed intercourse 6 months in a row and know ku, it's time to figure out what is going on.
  • I'm sorry, but it sounds like you're in good hands.  Did he monitor you last month on Clomid?  What did your follicles look like then?  How did he know your CM was "terrible" - did he do a post-coital?  If you're not close enough to O I would think it would be reasonable that it's "terrible."  How could he tell your O wasn't strong enough to produce a pregnancy?

    TTC in 2008. Stage II/III endo, Hashimotos hypothyroid, low morph (3%).
    2 cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI/Crinone=BFN.
    IUI #1 - 4 Follistim/Ovidrel/IUI/Crinone = BFN.
    IVF #1 - Antagonist w/ ICSI 4/10. 17 retrieved, 5DT of 2, BFN :(
    IVF #2 - Long Lupron w/ ICSI 6/10. 15 retrieved, 3DT of 2, BFFN!!
    Lap 7/21/10
    IVF #3 - Clomid/Antagonist w/ ICSI 10/10. 14 retreived, 3DT of 3, BFP 10/20 but m/c. No HB 11/15/10 - D&C 11/17/10.
    FET - 2 blasts, 1 survived the thaw. Transfer 2/19. Beta #1 3/1 375, Beta #2 3/3 885, Beta #3 3/8 4261, Beta #4 3/11 9005. U/S 3/8 1 sac 1 yolk, U/S 3/16 1 heartbeat 114bpm!

     

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  • imageSavat:
    imageloloindiego:

    I'm so sorry Savat.. I'm glad, that like Cathy, you have a plan in place. I know it's tough to keep a positive outlook, but you're doing a good job at it. :) Keep us posted..

    Also, if you don't mind me asking :) How did you go about asking for specific testing from your doc prior to hitting the 12 month mark? You & Cathy really have me wanting to go get all this stuff checked out.

    I've been off BCP for a year and charting, just wasn't TTC the first few months (even then though we weren't TTA). Almost every month I spotted by 6DPO and my LP was short. My dr is very proactive so when I told him about my concerns he jumped in gear and started ordering tests. His philosophy is that if you're having well timed intercourse 6 months in a row and know ku, it's time to figure out what is going on.

    Can you send your doc my way please? He sounds great!! My doc just thinks if I lose weight I'll majically get pregnant. grrr.

    Thanks for the info though.. I think when I visit her again at the 10 month mark, I'll request some tests be done. Good Luck Savat.. I'm really rooting for you.

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  • Also - how did he diagnose LPD?  It looks like your LPs are a normal length - 10-11 days.  Was it because of the spotting?

    TTC in 2008. Stage II/III endo, Hashimotos hypothyroid, low morph (3%).
    2 cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI/Crinone=BFN.
    IUI #1 - 4 Follistim/Ovidrel/IUI/Crinone = BFN.
    IVF #1 - Antagonist w/ ICSI 4/10. 17 retrieved, 5DT of 2, BFN :(
    IVF #2 - Long Lupron w/ ICSI 6/10. 15 retrieved, 3DT of 2, BFFN!!
    Lap 7/21/10
    IVF #3 - Clomid/Antagonist w/ ICSI 10/10. 14 retreived, 3DT of 3, BFP 10/20 but m/c. No HB 11/15/10 - D&C 11/17/10.
    FET - 2 blasts, 1 survived the thaw. Transfer 2/19. Beta #1 3/1 375, Beta #2 3/3 885, Beta #3 3/8 4261, Beta #4 3/11 9005. U/S 3/8 1 sac 1 yolk, U/S 3/16 1 heartbeat 114bpm!

     

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  • Savat, I'm thinking of you and hoping for more good news for you.  Sounds like you have a GREAT dr.  Let's hope for a + OPK!!!!
  • imagepatchen30:
    I'm sorry, but it sounds like you're in good hands.  Did he monitor you last month on Clomid?  What did your follicles look like then? How did he know your CM was "terrible" - did he do a post-coital?  If you're not close enough to O I would think it would be reasonable that it's "terrible."  How could he tell your O wasn't strong enough to produce a pregnancy?

     

    I wasn't monitored last month so I don't know what they looked like then.

    A post coital test checks for sperm swimming in your CM so no, didn't do that. But he did physically check it.

    Also, I'm on Ch 14 and I had a +OPK on this CD last month. I guess he's thinking maybe I should have fertile CM by now. But that's why he's going to check again when I get a +OPK

    Because I had progesterone tests that were way low. Apparently that is a sign that your other hormones are low. Plus, I went for months with never getting a +OPK and even when I did it was usually just one day.  

     

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    Also - how did he diagnose LPD?  It looks like your LPs are a normal length - 10-11 days.  Was it because of the spotting?
    He diagnosed LPD based on my progesterone levels and spotting (that usually started around 7 DPO). I did have some months where it was longer, I was also od'ing on B6 and vitex at the time. But even then it got progressively shorter.
  • imageloloindiego:
    imageSavat:
    imageloloindiego:

    I'm so sorry Savat.. I'm glad, that like Cathy, you have a plan in place. I know it's tough to keep a positive outlook, but you're doing a good job at it. :) Keep us posted..

    Also, if you don't mind me asking :) How did you go about asking for specific testing from your doc prior to hitting the 12 month mark? You & Cathy really have me wanting to go get all this stuff checked out.

    I've been off BCP for a year and charting, just wasn't TTC the first few months (even then though we weren't TTA). Almost every month I spotted by 6DPO and my LP was short. My dr is very proactive so when I told him about my concerns he jumped in gear and started ordering tests. His philosophy is that if you're having well timed intercourse 6 months in a row and know ku, it's time to figure out what is going on.

    Can you send your doc my way please? He sounds great!! My doc just thinks if I lose weight I'll majically get pregnant. grrr.

    Thanks for the info though.. I think when I visit her again at the 10 month mark, I'll request some tests be done. Good Luck Savat.. I'm really rooting for you.

    I think you should look into another dr. if you're not happy with her. GL to you too!
  • I'm sorry Savat. :(  Don't get discouraged yet though, you have one big follie that I will still be cheering for!  Maybe go out and grab some preseed for this month before doing the hormones (heres hoping you don't need them) next month.  It can't hurt.  GL!
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  • imageSavat:

    imagepatchen30:
    I'm sorry, but it sounds like you're in good hands.  Did he monitor you last month on Clomid?  What did your follicles look like then? How did he know your CM was "terrible" - did he do a post-coital?  If you're not close enough to O I would think it would be reasonable that it's "terrible."  How could he tell your O wasn't strong enough to produce a pregnancy?

     

    I wasn't monitored last month so I don't know what they looked like then.

    A post coital test checks for sperm swimming in your CM so no, didn't do that. But he did physically check it.

    Also, I'm on Ch 14 and I had a +OPK on this CD last month. I guess he's thinking maybe I should have fertile CM by now. But that's why he's going to check again when I get a +OPK

    Because I had progesterone tests that were way low. Apparently that is a sign that your other hormones are low. Plus, I went for months with never getting a +OPK and even when I did it was usually just one day.  

     

    Oh - interesting.  I didn't know it was bad to only have 1 day of a +OPK. 

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    TTC in 2008. Stage II/III endo, Hashimotos hypothyroid, low morph (3%).
    2 cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI/Crinone=BFN.
    IUI #1 - 4 Follistim/Ovidrel/IUI/Crinone = BFN.
    IVF #1 - Antagonist w/ ICSI 4/10. 17 retrieved, 5DT of 2, BFN :(
    IVF #2 - Long Lupron w/ ICSI 6/10. 15 retrieved, 3DT of 2, BFFN!!
    Lap 7/21/10
    IVF #3 - Clomid/Antagonist w/ ICSI 10/10. 14 retreived, 3DT of 3, BFP 10/20 but m/c. No HB 11/15/10 - D&C 11/17/10.
    FET - 2 blasts, 1 survived the thaw. Transfer 2/19. Beta #1 3/1 375, Beta #2 3/3 885, Beta #3 3/8 4261, Beta #4 3/11 9005. U/S 3/8 1 sac 1 yolk, U/S 3/16 1 heartbeat 114bpm!

     

    James born Oct. 24th 2011 via c-section at 38 weeks!

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    Surprise BFP - Jack born April 28, 2013 via VBAC after PTL at 33 1/2 weeks!

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  • It sounds like your doctor has a good plan set forth for you. Do not lose faith. You will get KU.
  • How insensitive to use the word "terrible".  I have seen plenty of girls here get pg with no CM at all - so don't let that get you down.

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  • Sounds like your Dr. has a good plan! Fingers crossed and prayers for you!
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  • Savat my dear, we already talked.   But wanted to give you a GP e-hug.  ((HUGS))
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  • Your doctor sounds awesome. I think I need to be more demanding with mine and ask for some tests. I also did not know that one day of OPK was a bad sign. That's my issue there so I don't use them. Did he say what that means? Low LH?  Also, what does he mean by "never had a strong enough ovulation"?   I haven't heard that before so am just curious what that means exactly.

     Best of luck to you. I have faith that this doc will help you and you'll be KU before you know it.

  • Honestly, I don't know if only having on day of +OPK is a bad thing. I just know that he's saying my low progesterone is a cause of low LH (and prob estrogen). I don't totally understand good ovulation vs. bad. I just know it has to do with low hormones and one of my friend's doctors told her the same thing. She did clomid and IUI and has a almost 1 year old now.
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