Babies: 9 - 12 Months

Your thoughts on guns and kids.

We have some best friends who are great with their kids (3 and 9) and DD. But the H has a huge gun collection (probably not even all legal ones) and they aren't all locked up. I have no idea where he keeps the ammo and I'm certain they don't all have trigger locks. He has some in his master bath just leaning against the wall.

They offer to babysit all the time, and the only thing stopping me is the guns. That's also what's keeping us from naming them guardians in our will. The 3 y.o. boy has toy guns and it makes me SO nervous to even see him with those. How is he really supposed to tell the difference between the real ones and the fake ones? Personally I think it's just a horrible accident waiting to happen.

Do you think I'm unreasonable (not that it matters, I'm just curious)?

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Re: Your thoughts on guns and kids.

  • no, not unreasonable at all.  our rule is that if the family has guns or an unfenced pool, dd will not be playing there. 

    it may sound overprotective, but i am big on the "better safe than sorry" mentality.  i would not be able to forgive myself if something happened to dd because i was lax about letting her be around guns. 

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  • MegGaryMegGary member

    I think you are perfectly reasonable. I'm all for owning guns. I am also for keeping them where they belong, locked up & safe.

    People that leave guns laying around are idiots. I would not allow my DD at their home at all.

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  • You are definitely not being unreasonable.  Keeping them leaning up against a wall in a bathroom is NOT ok!!!

    and FWIW we do have guns in our house- but they are locked up!!!!!

  • I don't think you're unreasonable with the guns being locked up. I'd let them know you're uncomfortable with it and if they want DD to come over and play, then the guns need to be locked up.

    However, kids will make a gun out of anything. I don't see any harm in toy guns.

  • I applauded you for your responsible thinking and forethought in the matter.  I would NEVER let my girls play in a house with guns lying around. 

    WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED A COLLECTION OF GUNS THAT LARGE!?!?!? GRRRRRRRRRRR.

  • The fact that they are not all locked up is what would stop me. My uncle is big into hunting and shooting targets, but all his guns are locked up in a gun safe. I would trust him completely with DD and know she would be safe. The fact that he does not lock them up is a big problem.

  • We have guns in our home, but I think it's rude when ppl don't put guns out of sight or lock them when visitors with kids come to their home.  It's one thing to educate your own children and create what you consider a safe environment, but it's another to make your friends/relatives feel uncomfortable around the guns.

    Leaning guns against the wall in your master bath for others to see if just tacky regardless of whether they're loaded/locked, IMO.

  • DS wouldn't ever be allowed in that house.  Even if I'm with him.

    No way - accidents happen too often and that sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

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    I think you are perfectly reasonable. I'm all for owning guns. I am also for keeping them where they belong, locked up & safe.

    People that leave guns laying around are idiots. I would not allow my DD at their home at all.

    Yup. We have two guns, both locked in a safe that DD will never know how to open.

    I am 29 and still don't know the combo to my dad's gun safe.

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  • iris427iris427 member
    I would definitely not be ok with that--if the family has guns, they absolutely cannot have them lying around where a small child could get to them.
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  • No, I don't think you're unreasonable. We have a couple guns, but they are ALWAYS locked up. In fact, DH keeps them locked up in a small gun safe thingie (don't know the name of the little ones) and keeps it that way all the way until he gets to the shooting range, etc.

    If I knew that someone had guns that were not locked up, DS would not be going to their home.

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    I don't think you're unreasonable with the guns being locked up. I'd let them know you're uncomfortable with it and if they want DD to come over and play, then the guns need to be locked up.

    However, kids will make a gun out of anything. I don't see any harm in toy guns.

     

    What scares me about toy guns is a lot of them look real. A friend & I had toy guns that looked real pulled on us once. The state police where called & some of the kids almost got shot. The police where not happy at all. They sat the kids down & chewed them out for over 2 hours about why it was a dumb thing to do.

    Recently here in NJ a kid was shot by a police officer who had a fake gun. He was riding his bike in a neighborhood w/ a toy gun that looked real. A neighbor called the police. The kid wouldn't put the gun down. He is dead now.

    Would this happen to a 3 year old. Probably not. Could it happen to a 12 yr old. Probaby yes.

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    I applauded you for your responsible thinking and forethought in the matter.  I would NEVER let my girls play in a house with guns lying around. 

    WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED A COLLECTION OF GUNS THAT LARGE!?!?!? GRRRRRRRRRRR.

    I don't get it either, but he collects them. He's a really nice, sweet guy, is all over DD anytime he sees her - it's not like he's some violent criminal type! He does have a gun safe, but they're not all in it.

    We do go over there, but I always keep both kids (mine and their 3 year old)in my sight, and they keep their bedroom door locked when we have DD there. But still. They have a toddler. Don't get it at all.

    Re: the toy guns, I don't want them in my house, but I don't care if he has toy guns. My point is that if he's allowed to play with those how will he differentiate if he comes across one of his dad's?

    I think DH and I need to talk to them about it. I don't want to offend them, but they're like family to us and I wish I could feel comfortable leaving DD with them.

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  • no, you aren't being unreasonable... i am all about gun rights, but i am also all about common sense.  if you can't own a gun and use common sense, then you don't need a d@mn gun!
  • I dont think you are being unreasonable at all! You are right, how are they supposed to know the difference between real and fake guns? I am all for owning guns, but they MUST be locked away and have trigger locks to be in our home! I dont understand how people can be so stupid when it comes to guns!!! It shocks me!
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  • lvisserlvisser member

    All our guns are locked in a gun safe downstairs... except for the home protection gun (which is getting its own small safe in our room).

    Thats the ONLY way I would have guns in the house.  

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  • You are not being unreasonable at all.  My father has guns - 3 maybe 4 of them.  He locks them up and I still don't feel comfortable.  Before DD was born we asked him to never be carrying a gun on him when he is going to be near her.  We don't want her to think guns are okay and to feel comfortable around them.  Go with your gut.
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  • Guns (loaded or otherwise) have no business being around young children. When my kids are teens, if they want to take a gun safety course and learn how to handle one safely and ONLY in appropriate settings (gun range, etc, NOT in their backyard) - then they can certainly go for it.

    But I would probably not feel comfortable letting my young children play in a home with guns that I feel aren't safely stored. 

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