LGBT Parenting

Why we have our own board

When TTC we are often treated as infertility patients, even though we aren't technically infertile.  We often don't have insurance coverage (even when mandated by the state) because we don't have "husband's sperm."  Our biological families and our friends are often opposed/curious/uninformed about GLBT TTC issues/parenting.  The feelings of the non-biological parent are very real and not similar to those of a father.  It forces us to "come out" in our workplaces even when we don't want to for safety/fear of being fired.

As a parent, 80% of parenting is the same as the hetero world.  We all worry about what our kids are eating, how little sleep we are getting, how to balance work/family, how to be a good SAHM, how to potty train, etc. The similarities are endless. And yet, LGBT parents have to worry if the other parents at the playground will let their kids come over for a playdate when they find out s/he had two moms/dads (not that we flaunt it - but when someone asks what my husband does, I am not going to lie in front of my child.), we have to make sure we have legal paperwork set up so our long lost cousin doesn't come out of the woodwork and try to take custody godforbid if something ever happen to me, and if we are lucky enough to live in a state that does second parent adoptions (were the non-biological parent adopts the child and is listed on the birth certificate) we have to submit reams of paperwork, go through an invasive home study, get letters of reccomendation from friends verifying that we'll be good parents, and pay thousands of dollars for an attorney/court fees.

And we do this all because we want children in our lives more than anything in the world. Big Smile
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Re: Why we have our own board

  • Very well said.

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  • Perfectly worded! :-)
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  • I couldn't have said it better!
  • I sincerely hope that you soon have the same rights that hetero couples take for granted. It boggles my mind that in 2009, gay marriage and families with same-sex parents are STILL not considered an "everyday" part of our lives.

    As a fellow Virginia resident, I was saddened when voters selected "Yes" to the amendment to basically take away any legal rights for same-sex couples. WHAT MANY "YES" VOTERS FAILED TO REALIZE is that they also voted to take away legal rights for ALL co-habiting couples that weren't legally married.

    All this being said, so long as you are a good stable parent, I got your back ;)

  • This is so beautifully written - thank you. 

  • Well done 2brides!
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  • Very well put!  I'm very interested to learn more about the different concerns that LGBT parents face.  I think this board could be a great resource for those of us who want to be more sensitive to those issues.
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    Very well said, except for the first part about being infertile.

    If I am perfectly fine, but my DH has no sperm (I think this is called azospermia?) - then WE are an infertile couple.  Technically, you are infertile because you cannot conceive without assistance.  Just like me!  Two women, lacking sperm, are also infertile. 

    And I must say, as 2 women, you have a reproductive edge.  You have 2 uteruses, 4 ovaries.  Much better odds at having some good eggs and a happy place for them to land.  All you need is sperm - and the good news is that sperm is pretty available!

    Please don't take this to mean I am belittling your unique challenges at all.  Of course there are so many more challenges for a gay couple to conceive and parent.  But fertility wise, generally 2 women have better odds at conception success than us hetero couples. 

     

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  • imageJanimal:

    Very well said, except for the first part about being infertile.

    If I am perfectly fine, but my DH has no sperm (I think this is called azospermia?) - then WE are an infertile couple.  Technically, you are infertile because you cannot conceive without assistance.  Just like me!  Two women, lacking sperm, are also infertile. 

    And I must say, as 2 women, you have a reproductive edge.  You have 2 uteruses, 4 ovaries.  Much better odds at having some good eggs and a happy place for them to land.  All you need is sperm - and the good news is that sperm is pretty available!

    I think when 2brides said we are treated as infertile, she was referring to the person actually undergoing treatment, not the status of the couple as a whole. (But 2brides if I've misrepresented, please correct!)

    Keep in mind that 2 women doesn't always = a reproductive edge. My wife, for example, had to have a hysterectomy. So we're dealing with 1 uterus, 2 ovaries (and PCOS to boot).

    One last comment-- Sperm is definitely "available", but it's not cheap! And since many insurance companies don't cover fertility services for same-sex couples, quite a number of us are entirely OOP, even when we have a type of insurance that would cover fertility services if we were a male/female couple (like mine... grrr).

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  • 2brides2brides member

    Correct, Christine. I was treated an infertile even though there was no evidence I couldn't get pregnant as long as I had sperm available. Which while somewhat readily available (sure, I could have gone out and cheated on my wife with a guy in a bar or asked a guy friend to donate and then worried if he was going to try to sue for parental rights.) Or do what we did and purchase it. And we did. We spent $7200 on sperm alone.

     And like Christine - my partner wasn't an option. She is significantly older than I am and has uterine fibroids that would prevent her from getting pregnant. This of course was an added stressor in TTC since she desperately wanted to give birth to a child and never would be able to.

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  • I agree.  I was really glad that we found the midwifes to do our insems so we didn't have to go through an RE and have to deal with the meds and monitoring that I didn't need.  It was nice to just try to get pregnant as close the natural way as possible.  If we had had trouble then we would have gone the RE route but it was so nice (and a whole lot cheaper) to go the route we did.  Although I must say that some of our issues are similar to azoo. couples.  In regards to thinking about the nonbiomom(ss) and nonbiodad(hetero) and how they feel during ttc and pregnancy. 
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  • It absolutely breaks my heart knowing all the extra pain you guys have to go through to be able to experience the joys of parenthood. The frustration and embarrassment of having to prove to close minded individuals that you're qualified to raise a child is disgusting to me. I know that there are PLENTY of hetero couples who, had they been put through the same process, would have been denied the right to have kids. The double standards and discriminatory practices completely blow my mind and infuriate me to no end. I understand (to a point) the frustrations and heartbreak with the adoption process: being adopted myself along with my brother and sister and seeing the pain, judgement and humiliation my parents had to go through to adopt us, and also being on the other side of the process (I was raped and gave my son up for adoption), it shows real passion and dedication for couples who stick with it and jump through all the hoops to provide a loving home for a child. I applaud your strength and perserverence in your journey to become parents, especially with all the extra stress you have to deal with on a daily basis. You are all AMAZING and I wish each and every one of you the very best of luck with TTC or whatever other avenue you choose to utilize to become parents. You will make wonderful parents and I am excited to keep up with you on your pathway to parenthood and beyond (if you don't mind...). Good luck!
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