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so when you do ferber, do they usually start sttn

after the first "CIO" session? as in, grant wakes up 4 x a night at least, so will i have to do the whole process 4 x a night?   Tongue Tied    he also eats 2 x a night (at 11:30 and 3:30) the other 2 times he is just fussing.  how do i know he isnt hungry though??? do i have to cut out feedings?

 

for the record: i am NOT starting this until he is 5 months, and hoping he just magically grows out of this, or it's just the 4 month wakeful now arghh

 

 

Re: so when you do ferber, do they usually start sttn

  • JARbabyJARbaby member

    Usually they cry x minutes the first night, longer the second and the least the third and STTN the 4th. On average this is what is observed.

    So stock up on wine and drink through it.

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  • Generally speaking, yes.  For us, the first night and the first cry was the hardest. The second wake up was only 10 minutes and the third was about 10 minutes. It does get easier and make sure that if you do it, that you do it on a weekend.
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  • imagesunnygyrl:
    Generally speaking, yes.  For us, the first night and the first cry was the hardest. The second wake up was only 10 minutes and the third was about 10 minutes. It does get easier and make sure that if you do it, that you do it on a weekend.

     

    i am honestly dreading this, a month out!!

  • piveypivey member
    I would agree with the others. 1st night yes, 2nd night yes, and then by the 4th night we don't have to let her CIO anymore. She rarely needs it for more than naps...
  • Ugh I'm with you.  I feel like I've been nursing her all night every night.  I finally just nursed her forever tonight and then rocked her until she was drowsy.  I put her down and she fussed for maybe 2 minutes.  Like "eh eh eh" fussing.  Then she was out.  I tried that earlier tonight and she full out cried.  Then back to nursing.  I can't wait until she puts herself to sleep consistently.
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  • imagepivey:
    I would agree with the others. 1st night yes, 2nd night yes, and then by the 4th night we don't have to let her CIO anymore. She rarely needs it for more than naps...

     

    so the first night, if he is up 4 x, he will cry for more minute than i care to think about EACH time?  or do they usually do a big fuss the first time, then conk out the rest of the night?  

     

     

    and what about eating!

  • Seriously, you can do it. That is, if you do it.  As Jar said, grab the wine and go.  When you see your DS wake up with a smile on his face, it will be worth it. Just keep picturing the smile when you let him cry.
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  • I have the same question--dh does this same thing--eats 2 x a night (at 11:30 and 3:30)   how do i know he isnt hungry though??? do i have to cut out feedings?

     

    So, do you just not feed at all past the initial 8:30pm bedtime-until like 6am?? And they will just STTN--and they just don't need those extra feedings? 

     

  • imageMiss.Modular:

    imagesunnygyrl:
    Generally speaking, yes.  For us, the first night and the first cry was the hardest. The second wake up was only 10 minutes and the third was about 10 minutes. It does get easier and make sure that if you do it, that you do it on a weekend.

     

    i am honestly dreading this, a month out!!

    You know, there are other ways to night wean and help them sttn.  

    https://www.drjaygordon.com/development/ap/sleep.asp

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  • JARbabyJARbaby member
    We had to do it the really hard way...we tried to get her to sttn for a month...so I did CIO for naps first. Then night, we went into our room and shut the door, turned the tv up and the monitor off. We had to stop the other from getting her several times and I cried. It was the hardest thing but I was back at work, she was getting up 7 times a night. I could no longer function and my lack of sleep was getting dangerous.
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  • piveypivey member
    imageMiss.Modular:

    imagepivey:
    I would agree with the others. 1st night yes, 2nd night yes, and then by the 4th night we don't have to let her CIO anymore. She rarely needs it for more than naps...

     

    so the first night, if he is up 4 x, he will cry for more minute than i care to think about EACH time?  or do they usually do a big fuss the first time, then conk out the rest of the night?  

     

     

    and what about eating!

    Ok - so A still doesn't sleep through the night. God I wish...

    First night she cried herself to sleep and woke 4 times. We tried to comfort her each time she woke and delay until it was obvious she was hungry - but, we knew 1ish and 4ish tended to be eating times. So she was hell the first night and each time I would nurse her BUT the 2 times she wasn't hungry it was obvious to me she was comfort nursing and she would CIO back to sleep. 

    2nd night was worse but more of the same

    3rd night was the same but much less

    and by night 4-5 she wakes for feeding and if she does wake another time she'll usually get back to sleep by the time we pause, look at each other and say "give it a minute?" and then tromp up the stairs to check on her. 

    Again, she's not STTN but she gets better each night...we're close again. She's down to only 2 wakes per night and now they are the 2 and 5am...2am to eat, 5 because that is just normal for her to attempt wakeup...

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    imageIselaCid:
    imageMiss.Modular:

    imagesunnygyrl:
    Generally speaking, yes.  For us, the first night and the first cry was the hardest. The second wake up was only 10 minutes and the third was about 10 minutes. It does get easier and make sure that if you do it, that you do it on a weekend.

     

    i am honestly dreading this, a month out!!

    You know, there are other ways to night wean and help them sttn.  

    https://www.drjaygordon.com/development/ap/sleep.asp

    Kinda hard to read this article when is says "I never want to see my ideas applied to a four month old or even a seven month old baby"

  • erbearerbear member
    imageMiss.Modular:

     

    so the first night, if he is up 4 x, he will cry for more minute than i care to think about EACH time?  or do they usually do a big fuss the first time, then conk out the rest of the night?  

     

     

    and what about eating!

    Maybe, by the time you're ready to try this, he won't be waking up so much?

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  • Do you ladies use a pacifier? This is how i get DD to go back to sleep without having to let her CIO or  nurse her. Anytime before 3-4am I just give her the paci and she goes right back to sleep. She usually sleeps for 10 hours without needing to eat. She was extremely picky about the pacifier and didnt really take it till about 7 weeks. I know people say their baby doesnt like it.. but i just had to find the right one..
  • SolelleSolelle member
    I nurse maybe twice a day now.  I pump when I usually nurse her and give a bottle.  It makes my life easier and allows my husband to help with feedings.  FWIW I bought the Dr. W book and you can start as early as 4 months with it.  We haven't begun implementing it full on yet, but we started making an effort to put her down early and just feed her when she wakes - no more hanging out with us or whatever at night.  This is only day 2, and she still isn't sleeping very well.  I'm hoping consistency is key here. 
  • imagepivey:
    imageIselaCid:
    imageMiss.Modular:

    imagesunnygyrl:
    Generally speaking, yes.  For us, the first night and the first cry was the hardest. The second wake up was only 10 minutes and the third was about 10 minutes. It does get easier and make sure that if you do it, that you do it on a weekend.

     

    i am honestly dreading this, a month out!!

    You know, there are other ways to night wean and help them sttn.  

    https://www.drjaygordon.com/development/ap/sleep.asp

    Kinda hard to read this article when is says "I never want to see my ideas applied to a four month old or even a seven month old baby"

    Kind of the point.  It seems unrealistic to want such a young baby to sttn.  It's not physically & developmentally time yet...unless you force them I guess.  

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    Joaquin's hospital and Isela's birth center med & intervention free "hypnobabies" birth stories
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