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should I get an ultrasound before starting clomid

My ob/gyn thinks I may have PCOS due to elevated LH levels.  He wants to start me on clomid to get me ovulating so I can get KU.  However, my friends that PCOS said that I should have an ultrasound done to confirm PCOS & make sure my tubes aren't blocked as well.  Did anyone else start clomid w/o confirming PCOS w/ an ultrasound?
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Re: should I get an ultrasound before starting clomid

  • We aren't doctors.  I think it is perfectly alright to ask your doctor about an ultrasound, but only your doctor can decide if you need one or not.

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  • I have a call into him, I was just curious what other people have experienced.  I actually feel suprisingly calm after he called yesterday & said I very well might have PCOS & to come in to discuss the Rx.  I thought I would be totally devestated hearing those words, but I guess it was easier just to know why my body has been so out of whack.
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  • My doctor's plan of attack if PCOS is discovered is 3 months of clomid and metformin and monitored for ovulation.  If nothing within 3 months then an HSG to check for blockages.  That's the plan of attack that was created for me, but everyone is different.
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  • I'd ask for an u/s, and to be monitored while on the clomid. If he won't do that, I'd find another dr.
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    Yes, you should have PCOS confirmed, especially if your only symptom is being anovulatory. You can be anovulatory and "pcos-like" without having PCOS.

    Does your Dr. regularly work with PCOS?

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  • There is a lifetime limit for how long you can take Clomid. ?Wouldn't it suck to take it for three cycles only to discover afterward that you have a blocked tube or cysts?
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    I actually feel suprisingly calm after he called yesterday & said I very well might have PCOS & to come in to discuss the Rx.  I thought I would be totally devestated hearing those words, but I guess it was easier just to know why my body has been so out of whack.

    Good I'm glad you have a positive outlook!

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    imagebonnin507:
    I have a call into him, I was just curious what other people have experienced.  I actually feel suprisingly calm after he called yesterday & said I very well might have PCOS & to come in to discuss the Rx.  I thought I would be totally devestated hearing those words, but I guess it was easier just to know why my body has been so out of whack.

    I've read that PCOS can be as common as 1/10 women. Nothing to be devastated over.

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    Yes, you should have PCOS confirmed, especially if your only symptom is being anovulatory. You can be anovulatory and "pcos-like" without having PCOS.

    Does your Dr. regularly work with PCOS?

    Good point; I will get some answers when the nurse calls me back.  I wonder what else could cause my LH levels to be elevated like this.    

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    There is a lifetime limit for how long you can take Clomid.  Wouldn't it suck to take it for three cycles only to discover afterward that you have a blocked tube or cysts?

    This.

    Also, I think before you take any medication for a condition you should be SURE you have it.  Trust me, I was in almost your exact same position. My first Dr was a Clomid pusher. Most Drs who want to push it also don't want to monitor you.  If he didn't even do an ultra sound to look at your ovaries (one of the easiest ways to confirm that your ovaries are infact polycystic) makes me want to tell you to RUN to an new Dr.

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  • I had an HSG and a couple ultrasounds before I started Clomid. I agree with pp...ultrasounds are very important!
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    I told me doctor this, and she said that it isn't true.  She said that the reason that doctors stop at 6 cycles of clomid is because if it doesn't work for you after 6 tries, then it won't work for you. 

    My plan she set up for me for the future is three rounds of clomid, then HSG, then RE.

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    My gyno that I had been going to for years dx'd me PCOS by bloodwork alone about 6 years ago. I wasn't TTC at the time, so she just wanted me to stay on BCP's.

    Do I have PCOS? Helll no.

    Fast forward a few years and I got a new gyno who is also a RE and he redid my bloodwork, did an ultrasound and confirmed that I have elevated estrogen levels and cysts, but I am not PCOS.

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    I should add that I am going in on CD 21 for progesterone testing, and I will be talking to my doctor before hand to get an ultrasound.  A huge cyst was found a few years ago while I was on BCP so I have to wonder what is new.
  • my dr's plan for me was to do an hsg & b/w and then start clomid. i think i would want an hsg to ensure no blockage before starting it.
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    I told me doctor this, and she said that it isn't true.? She said that the reason that doctors stop at 6 cycles of clomid is because if it doesn't work for you after 6 tries, then it won't work for you.?

    Either way, why bother putting your body through that only to find there's a problem later??

  • Wow all this stuff is soooo complicated.  The nurse just called & said they would be monitoring me while on clomid w/ ultrasounds.  I will make sure I make a nice list of ?'s/concerns based on all of your comments as well.  I want to make sure I've got every angle covered.  Thanks ladies!
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  • I have PCOS, which my doctor diagnosed because of an ultrasound and elevated testosterone levels. I would definitely want an ultrasound to confirm a PCOS diagnosis and an HSG before starting on any kind of fertility medication.

    Also, my doctor said that in order to be diagnosed with PCOS, you have to have at least 2 of 3 factors: annovulatory cycles, polycystic ovaries or elevated male hormones. It doesn't sound to me like you've hit 2 out of 3 yet.

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    My RE told me that a lot of gynos are still behind the times on PCOS diagnosis. It used to be that you just needed one symptom to be labeled PCOS and sent on your way with clomid in-hand. However, it's more complicated than that and blanketing everyone PCOS is not the answer.

    PCOS becomes even more complicated if you're insulin resistant as well, which can be common.

    It's good that they're going to monitor your cycle with ultrasounds if you're going to go the medically-assisted route.

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    I told me doctor this, and she said that it isn't true.  She said that the reason that doctors stop at 6 cycles of clomid is because if it doesn't work for you after 6 tries, then it won't work for you. 

    Either way, why bother putting your body through that only to find there's a problem later? 

    Everything I've read on this board agrees with you.  I was really confused when my doctor (actually two) told me that clomid doesn't thin up your lining and only a small percentage of people actually have the extreme side effects that come with it. Do you have any reliable links or research that could help me figure this out? tia!

  • imagebonnin507:
    Wow all this stuff is soooo complicated.  The nurse just called & said they would be monitoring me while on clomid w/ ultrasounds.  I will make sure I make a nice list of ?'s/concerns based on all of your comments as well.  I want to make sure I've got every angle covered.  Thanks ladies!

    Then why is an initial u/s something they did not do?  it just seems really odd to me, they have no baseline to go on here.

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    Also, my doctor said that in order to be diagnosed with PCOS, you have to have at least 2 of 3 factors: annovulatory cycles, polycystic ovaries or elevated male hormones. It doesn't sound to me like you've hit 2 out of 3 yet.

    nail meets head.  The only reason I am harping on this is because I was in your shoes in November.  Please please take the time to educate yourself on this, you will save yourself a lot of confusion and heartache.

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  • This website suggests that prolonged use of Clomid may increase risk of ovarian cancer. ?It also says that women with PCOS are more likely to get OHSS.

    https://www.drugs.com/pro/clomid.html?

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  • I had an HSG test to confirm my tubes before starting any drugs.  I had tons of blood work a HSG and a pelvis MRI.
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  • Since my appt is to discuss the meds at this point, he may set more testing up for me then.  I will definitely ask him why wouldn't I have them done to make sure.  Even if the clomid lets me get pg, I still want to know if I have PCOS or not.   

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  • Please, please, please ask your doctor about this and MAKE SURE that your tubes aren't blocked.  If they are, Clomid will not make any difference for you. It has really strong side effects for some people, and you will only want to take it if you absolutely have to. GL.
  • My dr put me on Clomid with out doing an ultrasound. I went in to talk to him about TTC for one year. After looking at my charts he saw I had rarely ovulated and put me on 50mg Clomid that day (CD5). He mentioned PCOS and they did bloodwork but I won't find out anything until my next appt on 4-27. That day he will discuss bloodwork and give me a PG test.
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