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Moms, help with CIO and a poll

Reagan usually wakes up sometime between 1-3 am to eat and then she is up for the day between 5:30 and 6.  Lately, she refuses to be put down after she eats in the middle of the night and will scream her head off unless she is sleeping on me.  I work full time and wake up at 4:45, so I have been appeasing her and letting her sleep on me just so I can get a few hours of rest at night.  Needless to say, I am exhausted.  And I am starting to wonder if she needs to eat in the middle of the night or if she knows Mommy will hold her and cuddle her and let her sleep in the big bed if she wakes up.  I need some help here ladies.

1.  Did you let DC CIO?

2.  How old was DC?

3.  How long did DC cry?

4.  How many night of CIO did it take?

5.  Any other advice for getting my child to sleep so that I can regain some sanity?

Thanks for any help you can offer.  I am at work right now, so I will be checking back throughout the day, but I apologize ahead of time if I can't respond until later tonight.

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Re: Moms, help with CIO and a poll

  • I am sorry to say that 3 months is way too young to do CIO. ?I am sorry you are not getting any sleep. ?You DC really might need to eat, perhaps more than normal as you DC might be going through a growth spurt. ?I have always heard no CIO until 6 months. ?

    As for advice...leave the lights off, try dream feeding a little earlier than when DC normally wakes, don't talk to your DC...that is all I got, sorry.

    We still have significant sleep issues so I do feel your pain and hope it gets better for you soon.?

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    I am sorry to say that 3 months is way too young to do CIO.  I am sorry you are not getting any sleep.  You DC really might need to eat, perhaps more than normal as you DC might be going through a growth spurt.  I have always heard no CIO until 6 months.  

    As for advice...leave the lights off, try dream feeding a little earlier than when DC normally wakes, don't talk to your DC...that is all I got, sorry.

    We still have significant sleep issues so I do feel your pain and hope it gets better for you soon. 

    Ditto this even Ferber modified his method to say that 6 months is the best time to start and no earlier than 4 months.

    FWIW DS went through this from months 2-5 he would wake once a night to eat, it would then take anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour to go back to sleep.

    Advice leave the lights off, if you formula feed get your DH to either make the bottle or feed your LO.  Minimal to no stimulation is best.  Don't play don't talk nothing.

    When DS was going through this we would at most play his lullaby music and either DH or myself would cuddle him in the rocking chair.

    I feel your pain I work full time and it was exhausting at the time, now DS sleeps 12+ hours without waking but it took a while to get to that point.

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  • We didn't start ST until  4 months (and we did Ferber) but I did take the 230 bottle away at 3.5 months.  It was becoming a habit.  When they woke up for it, I just gave the their paci, never taking them out and rubbed their backs.  I would get them at first peep so they never woke up fully.  They would sleep until 430 then get a bottle and eventually started waking up later and later.  They get up at 7 now. 

    When I started Ferber, it was cio for 5, 10 then 15 minutes.  I can't really help on how not to bring dc to bed because I do the same thing.  Katie has started getting up at 3 and I just throw her (not literally hehe) in bed with us. 

    Good luck.

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  • I remember the nights of waking up at 3 a.m. well. She just wanted to play and it was so aggravating. However, it does get better. As she gets older, you will be able to drop the nighttime feedings. We didn't have to do any special sleep training with N. She was a good sleeper from about three months on (though I was FF'ing at that point). However, we had some trouble when the time changed to Daylight Savings and we had to do some CIO. It went really well and now she's sleeping better than ever. I think you'll be getting a full nights' sleep before you know it. Sometimes things can change really fast. Hang in there.

  • imagefutureMrs.Eanes:

    Reagan usually wakes up sometime between 1-3 am to eat and then she is up for the day between 5:30 and 6.  Lately, she refuses to be put down after she eats in the middle of the night and will scream her head off unless she is sleeping on me. 

    1.  Did you let DC CIO?

    Never

    2.  How old was DC?

    started sleep training at 4 months, but not CIO

    3.  How long did DC cry?

    na

    4.  How many night of CIO did it take?

    it took about 5 nights of sleep training

    5.  Any other advice for getting my child to sleep so that I can regain some sanity?

    I suggest reading some of the sleep books. I really like The Baby Whisperer solves all your problems book


    She is too little to manipulate you and too little to self soothe so therefore too little to cry it out. I actually think 4 months is too little. But there are other ways that are hard in the short term, for long term success. Habits are forming now, but again, she is not manipulating you yet.

    Things I would ask, do you have a bedtime routine, how much stimulation does she get when she wakes to eat, how much does she eat, do you dream feed, how light a sleeper is she.... 

    FWIW, I generally dislike CIO, but I really don't like it for babies under 6 months or so.  I feel like CIO at Reagan's age is not so much that she is self soothing, but she is giving up and learning that she is all alone at night and to me, that is sad. There are plenty of others who would disagree with me, though, so this is merely my opinion. 

    We did a form of pick up/put down with Ethan, and we have a very specific nighttime routine. For us it is PJs, bottle, books (always 4 books ending with goodnight moon) then we say goodnight to all the things in his room, ending with turning off the light, saying goodnight light, and he goes into the crib, we turn on the mobile for the music, and close the door.  He immediately puts his thumb in his mouth, closes his eyes and goes to sleep. He might fuss for a bit but never for more than a minute or 2.

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  • Can I suggest Healthy Sleep Habits, Healthy Baby?  That book completely changed our lives.  It may have some really good suggestions for you. 

    I know that I am in the minority on this board, but I would let her cry for 10 min and see if she goes to sleep on her own (if you are sure she is full).  If she doesn't, check on her, give her a paci and try again. 

    I know it's really hard to function when you're so exhausted.  I hope things get better for you soon.  (((hugs)))

  • Thanks for all of your advice.  It is so hard to know what the right thing is to do.  I know I will discuss it with her pedi at her next appt in two weeks and maybe he will also have some suggestions. 

    We have a bedtime routine right now that consists of a bath at 6:00, some cuddling time with Mommy and Daddy, reading a book or two, a bottle by 7:00 and then I rock her to sleep.  When she wakes in the night, I don't turn on any lights (except the night light which is always on).  I change her and feed her with little interaction.  I guess that is why I am at such a loss. 

    Again, thanks for all of your help. 

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  • imagefutureMrs.Eanes:

    Thanks for all of your advice.  It is so hard to know what the right thing is to do.  I know I will discuss it with her pedi at her next appt in two weeks and maybe he will also have some suggestions. 

    We have a bedtime routine right now that consists of a bath at 6:00, some cuddling time with Mommy and Daddy, reading a book or two, a bottle by 7:00 and then I rock her to sleep.  When she wakes in the night, I don't turn on any lights (except the night light which is always on).  I change her and feed her with little interaction.  I guess that is why I am at such a loss. 

    Again, thanks for all of your help. 

    is the diaper wet or dirty?  If it's wet I would leave it (unless it's leaking)..  Anything you do besides meating a basic need is stimulating her..  I agree she's much to young for CIO (and I'm a CIO advocate)....  Try giving her a smaller bottle or shorting nursing over several days and see if you can wean her down to nothing....

  • Our kids are about the same age so I don't have any seasoned advice, I can just tell you that I am one to go with Cal's flow.  I've learned that any change in "routine" is temporary.  So, I would guess that her being awake at that hour will not last for long and if you're both able to sleep with her lying on you, then that's what you should do to get you through the phase.  I don't see anything wrong with it.
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