I already use Family Cloth half the time. I think I'd go that route before the bidet...I'm not convinced that water pressure alone can get everything clean...if you know what I mean.
What do you store it in? Does it smell? (I get that it isn't much different from CDs, but still...) Oh and I think DH would die if I came up with that. ??
These are all things I've always wondered about a bidet as well. I've never used one. Does it really get you that clean and do you just drip dry after you use it?
What do you store it in? Does it smell? (I get that it isn't much different from CDs, but still...) Oh and I think DH would die if I came up with that.
I seriously just use regular wash cloths, and since I'm dainty and all, I like to wet them with warm water in the sink first. Then when I'm done I toss them in the diaper pail and wash with the dipes. No biggie. And DH is still a TP kinda guy. I just do my own thing and let him fend for himself.
What do you store it in? Does it smell? (I get that it isn't much different from CDs, but still...) Oh and I think DH would die if I came up with that. ??
I seriously just use regular wash cloths, and since I'm dainty and all, I like to wet them with warm water in the sink first.? Then when I'm done I toss them in the diaper pail and wash with the dipes.? No biggie.
I actually like the idea. ?I think I will...ahem...buy a pack of brown washcloths to avoid stains, and will keep them in the kid bathroom for my personal use. ?I just won't tell DH.
?It seems crazy, but why not? I never thought I'd use a diva cup even 2 years ago. ??
c-and-p ... the potential outlash could be deadly.
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well, I have you and speedy I already told them about the diva cup. It was actually shama who convinced me to try it.
Might I reiterate...we're talking FAMILY CLOTH here. ML would FREAK. Do you remember the day pizzabride introduced us all to mama cloth and her "period water"?!!? ho-ley shizzle.
I just wonder how many times I'd throw the cloth into the toilet before I finally got the hang of putting it elsewhere. I KNOW I'd do it at least a couple times.
I actually thought about doing it the other day. Since DH isnt here he'd never have to know!
c-and-p ... the potential outlash could be deadly. ?
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well, I have you and speedy ?I already told them about the diva cup. It was actually shama who convinced me to try it. ? ?
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Might I reiterate...we're talking FAMILY CLOTH here.? ML would FREAK.? Do you remember the day pizzabride introduced us all to mama cloth and her "period water"?!!?? ho-ley shizzle. ?
I remember, I am still grossed out in fact. ?It is the soaking thing I think. ?Well, and the fact that it came from pizzabride. ?But yeah, I would get flamed too, I am not unflameable. ?lol?
We had to do the bidet thing when we traveled to India last year. They also have a little faucet next to the toilet that you run your hand under before you wipe your ass. And yes, you are just always wet. I asked once how you are supposed to get dry, and the answer was basically, "you don't." erm, nothankyouverymuch.
We brought our own TP on the trip, and I am SO glad we did (esp. since DH and I both got VERY sick).
I think you have to use your left hand (a la 50% of the world) to really get a good clean w/ the bidet. But then you wash your hand.
That is actually quite an overstatement- I just read an article about this- need to find it somewhere...
but anyway- issue w/ the bidet is 1 the drying issue and 2- a nice warm bidet as you would like requires not only water, but warm water, which requires the water being heated, etc.
We used 100% recycled TP and that's as green as I am going to go.
c-and-p ... the potential outlash could be deadly.
lol
well, I have you and speedy I already told them about the diva cup. It was actually shama who convinced me to try it.
Might I reiterate...we're talking FAMILY CLOTH here. ML would FREAK. Do you remember the day pizzabride introduced us all to mama cloth and her "period water"?!!? ho-ley shizzle.
I remember, I am still grossed out in fact. It is the soaking thing I think. Well, and the fact that it came from pizzabride. But yeah, I would get flamed too, I am not unflameable. lol
It is totally the soaking thing. A WET PAIL? I mean, come ON. It's blood. Quite possibly, the single-best microbial food around. To foster it with water? wowwwww...hello, vile.
c-and-p ... the potential outlash could be deadly. ?
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well, I have you and speedy ?I already told them about the diva cup. It was actually shama who convinced me to try it. ? ?
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Might I reiterate...we're talking FAMILY CLOTH here.? ML would FREAK.? Do you remember the day pizzabride introduced us all to mama cloth and her "period water"?!!?? ho-ley shizzle. ?
I remember, I am still grossed out in fact. ?It is the soaking thing I think. ?Well, and the fact that it came from pizzabride. ?But yeah, I would get flamed too, I am not unflameable. ?lol?
It is totally the soaking thing.? A WET PAIL?? I mean, come ON.? It's blood.? Quite possibly, the single-best microbial food around.? To foster it with water?? wowwwww...hello, vile. ?
exactly! ?unless you put a cup of bleach in it, but that kinds defeats the purpose. ?My mom used to put so much bleach into her wet diaper pail that her hands were bleeding. ?Yeah, it wasn't for EF reasons that she CD'd. ?lol
c-and-p ... the potential outlash could be deadly.
lol
well, I have you and speedy I already told them about the diva cup. It was actually shama who convinced me to try it.
Might I reiterate...we're talking FAMILY CLOTH here. ML would FREAK. Do you remember the day pizzabride introduced us all to mama cloth and her "period water"?!!? ho-ley shizzle.
I remember, I am still grossed out in fact. It is the soaking thing I think. Well, and the fact that it came from pizzabride. But yeah, I would get flamed too, I am not unflameable. lol
It is totally the soaking thing. A WET PAIL? I mean, come ON. It's blood. Quite possibly, the single-best microbial food around. To foster it with water? wowwwww...hello, vile.
exactly! unless you put a cup of bleach in it, but that kinds defeats the purpose. My mom used to put so much bleach into her wet diaper pail that her hands were bleeding. Yeah, it wasn't for EF reasons that she CD'd. lol
mmm hmmmm. Right. Bleach-laden blood-water. That's what I want Josh to spash in next. You know, right before he goes to play in the cat bowl.
I tried. I really did. The first time I went to Japan I used a toilet with a gob of buttons. It sprayed my ass and then took 34 minutes to dry it. I'm going to have to use toilet paper until something comes out and wipes my arse cheeks for me.
I am late on this, but thought I'd chime in. We had a bidet when we lived in Europe for two years. I love, love, loved it. I still miss it.
In Italy (where we were), you don't use your hand alone, you use a bar of soap. And there's always a "hand" towel available for drying. To be honest, I thought the towel idea was gross, so I almost always dried with a square or two of toilet paper.
We used 100% recycled TP and that's as green as I am going to go.
This is where I'm at too. I think it is also worth thinking about how much water your area has... I mean if you live in a really dry climate EF toilet paper would be way better than a bidet.
I am late on this, but thought I'd chime in.? We had a bidet when we lived in Europe for two years.? I love, love, loved it.? I still miss it.
In Italy (where we were), you don't use your hand alone, you use a bar of soap.? And there's always a "hand" towel available for drying.? To be honest, I thought the towel idea was gross, so I almost always dried with a square or two of toilet paper.?
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Please tell me you mean a fresh clean "hand" towel for everyone... not one that is shared.
This thread is grossing me out and making me laugh. I have my limits, our toilet paper is staying put - although the wash cloths for pee only aren't such a bad idea.
I am late on this, but thought I'd chime in. We had a bidet when we lived in Europe for two years. I love, love, loved it. I still miss it.
In Italy (where we were), you don't use your hand alone, you use a bar of soap. And there's always a "hand" towel available for drying. To be honest, I thought the towel idea was gross, so I almost always dried with a square or two of toilet paper.
This is pretty much the way it worked in my house growing up. Yes, we had a bidet growing up ... in Florida. I guess it would be like a combo of bidet and family cloth? My mom kept a stack of clothes next to the bidet for drying and there was a bin on the other side to throw it in when you were done.
I think it's kind of funny when people ask whether cleaning with water is as good as toilet paper.?I think Dr. Oz on Oprah said it best: "if you had pee or poop on your hand, you wouldn't wipe it off with paper, would you? You'd wash it off?. Now bidet's are ok but the water pressure is not enough, the best solution is a bathroom bidet sprayer;?A hand held bathroom bidet sprayer is so much better than a stand alone bidet and this is why:1. It's less expensive (potentially allot less) 2.You can install in yourself = no plumber expense 3. It works better by providing more control of where the water spray goes and a much greater volume of water flow. 4. It requires no electricity and there are few things that can go wrong with it. 5. It doesn't take up any more space, many bathrooms don't have room for a stand alone bidet.?6.You don?t have to get up and move from the toilet to the bidet which can be rather awkward at times to say the least. Available at https://www.bathroomsprayers.com.?with these you won't even need toilet paper any more, just a towel to dry off! Don?t worry, you can still leave some out for guests and can even make it the soft stuff without feeling guilty.?As for water use a drought is always a concern and must be dealt with prudently but please remember that in the big picture the industrial water users always far exceed the water use of house hold users and in the case of toilet paper manufacture it is huge. The pollution and significant power use from that manufacturing process also contributes to global warming so switching to a hand bidet sprayer and lowering your toilet paper use is very green in multiple ways.
I think family cloth seems to be a natural progression from using cloth wipes for baby. But I HATE that term. I mean, what does it bring to mind? A single cloth that is used (& reused) by the whole family...and that is just gross. We haven't tried cloths yet, but I have thought about it a lot. I've started using the cloths we use for DS's nose for my own nose occasionally. I need to get some more flannel and start using it after peeing (I don't think I'm ready to deal with #2 yet). When you're already CDing, tossing a few extra wipes in with a load is not a big deal at all. After DS is out of diapers, it might be a bit more inconvenient. (DH is totally going to roll his eyes at me for this one!)
ETA: in case anyone is wondering why I don't just cut up old t-shirts instead of getting more flannel...1) I like the way flannel "feels" when wiping DS. It seems to work really well. 2) we don't really have any extra t-shirts because we just donated a ton of stuff & definitely nothing besides white and 3) I think I want to color code cloths for different purposes (we currently have solid blue for DS's nose and 2 different prints for his bum, but not enough of the prints for me to use them too).
Re: More EF: toilet paper or a bidet
I just googled family cloth. ?I'm not ready. ?
What do you store it in? Does it smell? (I get that it isn't much different from CDs, but still...) Oh and I think DH would die if I came up with that. ??
Ok. ?Not happening. ?
The family cloth gives me food for thought though...Maybe I could try it without DH...and hide my cloths so that he doesn't think his wife is crazy...
If I HAD to, I could give up tp.
If it involved the cost and time of installing a bidet to use instead of tp, I'd be a no. But if it were my only option, sure.
Mother's Day, 2011
I seriously just use regular wash cloths, and since I'm dainty and all, I like to wet them with warm water in the sink first. Then when I'm done I toss them in the diaper pail and wash with the dipes. No biggie. And DH is still a TP kinda guy. I just do my own thing and let him fend for himself.
I actually like the idea. ?I think I will...ahem...buy a pack of brown washcloths to avoid stains, and will keep them in the kid bathroom for my personal use. ?I just won't tell DH.
?It seems crazy, but why not? I never thought I'd use a diva cup even 2 years ago. ??
papie i just googled it too, and i think i may be game.
DH would totally flip out
I rather like being a part of this 50% of the world. I'll bet a huge majority of the other 50% would prefer to be a part of our 50%, as well.
Sorry, Brahim...the left hand stays clean.
Let's not tell our DHs. ?Or anyone on ML. ?lol?
Dude. You'd better start makin' friends here. Quickly.
c-and-p ... the potential outlash could be deadly.
lol
well, I have you and speedy
?I already told them about the diva cup. It was actually shama who convinced me to try it. ? ?
Might I reiterate...we're talking FAMILY CLOTH here. ML would FREAK. Do you remember the day pizzabride introduced us all to mama cloth and her "period water"?!!? ho-ley shizzle.
I just wonder how many times I'd throw the cloth into the toilet before I finally got the hang of putting it elsewhere. I KNOW I'd do it at least a couple times.
I actually thought about doing it the other day. Since DH isnt here he'd never have to know!
I remember, I am still grossed out in fact. ?It is the soaking thing I think. ?Well, and the fact that it came from pizzabride. ?But yeah, I would get flamed too, I am not unflameable. ?lol?
We had to do the bidet thing when we traveled to India last year. They also have a little faucet next to the toilet that you run your hand under before you wipe your ass. And yes, you are just always wet. I asked once how you are supposed to get dry, and the answer was basically, "you don't." erm, nothankyouverymuch.
We brought our own TP on the trip, and I am SO glad we did (esp. since DH and I both got VERY sick).
That is actually quite an overstatement- I just read an article about this- need to find it somewhere...
but anyway- issue w/ the bidet is 1 the drying issue and 2- a nice warm bidet as you would like requires not only water, but warm water, which requires the water being heated, etc.
We used 100% recycled TP and that's as green as I am going to go.
It is totally the soaking thing. A WET PAIL? I mean, come ON. It's blood. Quite possibly, the single-best microbial food around. To foster it with water? wowwwww...hello, vile.
exactly! ?unless you put a cup of bleach in it, but that kinds defeats the purpose. ?My mom used to put so much bleach into her wet diaper pail that her hands were bleeding. ?Yeah, it wasn't for EF reasons that she CD'd. ?lol
mmm hmmmm. Right. Bleach-laden blood-water. That's what I want Josh to spash in next. You know, right before he goes to play in the cat bowl.
i use cloth for pee. it is really no big deal. just toss into the diaper pail and wash with diapers.?
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btw, i think ya'll have the longest quote-to-quote going on that i've ever seen! good job!?
I am late on this, but thought I'd chime in. We had a bidet when we lived in Europe for two years. I love, love, loved it. I still miss it.
In Italy (where we were), you don't use your hand alone, you use a bar of soap. And there's always a "hand" towel available for drying. To be honest, I thought the towel idea was gross, so I almost always dried with a square or two of toilet paper.
This is where I'm at too. I think it is also worth thinking about how much water your area has... I mean if you live in a really dry climate EF toilet paper would be way better than a bidet.
Please tell me you mean a fresh clean "hand" towel for everyone... not one that is shared.
This thread is grossing me out and making me laugh. I have my limits, our toilet paper is staying put - although the wash cloths for pee only aren't such a bad idea.
baby #4 due March '17!
This is pretty much the way it worked in my house growing up. Yes, we had a bidet growing up ... in Florida. I guess it would be like a combo of bidet and family cloth? My mom kept a stack of clothes next to the bidet for drying and there was a bin on the other side to throw it in when you were done.
i just have to say...my brother uses a bidet b/c he can't wipe and the bidet gives him some dignity and privacy.
BUT- he has this awesome toilet seat that blows warm air on his hiney to dry him off when he's done. maybe not EFF, but warm hiney= heaven.
I think it's kind of funny when people ask whether cleaning with water is as good as toilet paper.?I think Dr. Oz on Oprah said it best: "if you had pee or poop on your hand, you wouldn't wipe it off with paper, would you? You'd wash it off?. Now bidet's are ok but the water pressure is not enough, the best solution is a bathroom bidet sprayer;?A hand held bathroom bidet sprayer is so much better than a stand alone bidet and this is why:1. It's less expensive (potentially allot less) 2.You can install in yourself = no plumber expense 3. It works better by providing more control of where the water spray goes and a much greater volume of water flow. 4. It requires no electricity and there are few things that can go wrong with it. 5. It doesn't take up any more space, many bathrooms don't have room for a stand alone bidet.?6.You don?t have to get up and move from the toilet to the bidet which can be rather awkward at times to say the least. Available at https://www.bathroomsprayers.com.?with these you won't even need toilet paper any more, just a towel to dry off! Don?t worry, you can still leave some out for guests and can even make it the soft stuff without feeling guilty.?As for water use a drought is always a concern and must be dealt with prudently but please remember that in the big picture the industrial water users always far exceed the water use of house hold users and in the case of toilet paper manufacture it is huge. The pollution and significant power use from that manufacturing process also contributes to global warming so switching to a hand bidet sprayer and lowering your toilet paper use is very green in multiple ways.
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I think family cloth seems to be a natural progression from using cloth wipes for baby. But I HATE that term. I mean, what does it bring to mind? A single cloth that is used (& reused) by the whole family...and that is just gross. We haven't tried cloths yet, but I have thought about it a lot. I've started using the cloths we use for DS's nose for my own nose occasionally. I need to get some more flannel and start using it after peeing (I don't think I'm ready to deal with #2 yet). When you're already CDing, tossing a few extra wipes in with a load is not a big deal at all. After DS is out of diapers, it might be a bit more inconvenient. (DH is totally going to roll his eyes at me for this one!)
ETA: in case anyone is wondering why I don't just cut up old t-shirts instead of getting more flannel...1) I like the way flannel "feels" when wiping DS. It seems to work really well. 2) we don't really have any extra t-shirts because we just donated a ton of stuff & definitely nothing besides white and 3) I think I want to color code cloths for different purposes (we currently have solid blue for DS's nose and 2 different prints for his bum, but not enough of the prints for me to use them too).