2nd Trimester

The post that started it...since someone asked..

I'm not even going to post who said it I am just going to post what it said:

"Aren't those 6 ones 4 years old now? Aren't they in pre-school anyways? Once they hit kindergarten I think they should stop and I think Kate should go back to work like a normal person. "

 

I just thought this was an odd statement.  I actually did not vote in that poll...I was wondering who was going to say that there really isn't a norm anymore.  That couples/families are making choices that are best for them and their way of life.  I am annoyed that someone would make a blanket statement like that.  Like a woman that makes the choice to stay home and keep the house up once her children are in school is abnormal. 

Re: The post that started it...since someone asked..

  • In my family and DH's family it is the norm to NOT go back to work, ever, so I do not agree with this poster.  I agree with you that normal is different for every family and people should do what works best for them. 
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  • I missed something this morning! I am going to be abnormal :). I hope to be able to stay home with my kiddo as long as possible, then volunteer at their school when they are old enough to go.
  • Thanks for clarifying. I've met some people who have this opinion for sure (both guys and girls) who are, of course, unmarried and not parents. "Why would someone just sit around the house all day? That's useless." I was just like, wow, you clearly didn't have a SAHM and didn't see how much work they put into their families. (I did have a SAHM even though I won't be one.)
  • Wow! That's totally annoying. I am super excited to become a SAHM, i was going to do it anyway, but getting laid of a while back and not being able to find work has really made it easier for me to get used to it. I don't think anyone has ever told me it was abnormal for me to stay home. Just like I don't think it's abnormal for someone to want to go back to work.
  • Ok seriously? I don't watch the show, but aren't they in Ca? Newsflash, to whoever posted that, K is still half a day, even if you make a 6 figure salary it would never be worth it to have 6 kids in daycare even half a day. That pisses me off, dangit now I'm in a bad mood lol.
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  im
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be at home
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be with
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be at
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be at home with
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be at home with my
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be at home with my kids until
  • imagedeb2126:
    I missed something this morning! I am going to be abnormal :). I hope to be able to stay home with my kiddo as long as possible, then volunteer at their school when they are old enough to go.

    Ditto this exactly. 

  • To be completely honest, I don't have a plan to ever go back to work. There will be plenty for me to do once Carley is in school. And, to sound completely 1950's, I LOVE taking care of my husband and our family. I feel like I have a job. I stay busy!
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it.  Im planning to be at home with my kids
  • I agree, your kids are only young once. If you have the oppertunity and desire to stay at home and participate in your childs life as much as possible go for it. 
  • I would think the average family with that many kids would need the second income but Kate probablly doesn't with the money from the show and appearances so who cares if she stays home.  With that many kids there is probably a ton that needs to get done everyday, clothes, food shopping ect.  Also when kids go back to school they are still done by 2 or 3 pm so you can't really get a 9-5 job, you would still need a sitter or something.

    I do think it is crazy when a dad has to take on extra hours to support the family and the mom is at home when the kids are in school.  I just don't think it's fair to the father because he misses out on so much by working weekends and stuff.

  • My guess is that the "norm" has changed over the years, it used to be that most women stayed home after having a baby and now it seems most women go back to work after having a baby.  I say most not all.  I'm not sure yet if I will be able to stay home or not but I firmly believe that it is best for a child to have a parent at home instead of daycare or even a babysitter.  But, not everyone can do that. Sad
  • That's a completely odd statement.  I completely agree that it's up to the family and what works best for them - and why is it anyone else's business? I get equally frustrated when somebody asks me if I plan on staying home and then gives me a "judgy" look for saying yes. I don't understand why I'm supposed to care if someone else chooses to go back to work or not.  I read this book a year or so ago - it was fascinating.  It's called Mommy Wars: Stay-at-Home and Career Moms Face off on Their Choices, Their Lives, Their Families.  It was a really good look at why BOTH kinds of women (and the combinations that can occur - work at home, part time, etc.) are important in today's world.

  • I am really happy and feel blessed that I'll be able to be a SAHM.. it took a lot of planning and we both put off having kids longer than we wanted to make it work but I think it'll be worth it for us. DH and I both grew up with SAHMs and I guess it's the norm for our families. My mom worked sometimes after we were all in school but she also kept busy keeping up our old house and taking care of all the animals (it was a mini farm). DH's mom is an avid quilter involved in all sorts of guilds and has done lots of work with the church and volunteering. I would never judge someone who wanted to go back to work just as I hope others wouldn't judge those who choose not to work.
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  • imageNewLerma:
    Ok seriously? I don't watch the show, but aren't they in Ca? Newsflash, to whoever posted that, K is still half a day, even if you make a 6 figure salary it would never be worth it to have 6 kids in daycare even half a day. That pisses me off, dangit now I'm in a bad mood lol.

     

    they are in PA (like me) where kindergarten is full day. just to clarify. not htat it matters though - haha!! i agree with you. 

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    imageNewLerma:
    Ok seriously? I don't watch the show, but aren't they in Ca? Newsflash, to whoever posted that, K is still half a day, even if you make a 6 figure salary it would never be worth it to have 6 kids in daycare even half a day. That pisses me off, dangit now I'm in a bad mood lol.

     

    they are in PA (like me) where kindergarten is full day. just to clarify. not htat it matters though - haha!! i agree with you. 

    Oh oops lol...thanks.

  • I wonder what that poster would think about stay-at-home-dads?  Whatever works for the family - is that so hard to understand and accept?  I wish I was able to figure out a way to stay home with the baby once he is here. 

  • I plan on staying home until we decide that it's a good time for me to return to work.  However long I may be home is undecided and will be determined by many factors.  I think it's wrong to have a cookie cutter ideal of what is normal and what is not.  When I lived with my biological mother she worked and when I moved in with my Dad and Mom she stayed home.  I've seen both sides, and I can tell you they both have pro's and con's. 

    I just wanted to see if many people saw it the same way I did, that there is no longer a norm.  In our society women have the freedom to have both children and a career, but they don't have to do both.  They can do either one, both, or neither.  And as long as they aren't being a burden to our society I don't see why they should be judged.

  • imageLillyBug923:
    To be completely honest, I don't have a plan to ever go back to work. There will be plenty for me to do once Carley is in school. And, to sound completely 1950's, I LOVE taking care of my husband and our family. I feel like I have a job. I stay busy!

    I totally agree with this. I had to quit my job since I worked strictly with people with highly infectious diseases and because I got so sick, but I would have resigned once it got close to time for me to have the baby anyway. I love the idea of taking care of my kidlet and husband.  We're very lucky that my husband's income is enough to support us. If we ever did need a second income, though, that's fine, too. I think it's sad that women have it drilled into their head that they MUST have a job, otherwise their somehow anti-feminist. I always thought about being a feminist was about having the choice to get a job or to stay at home.

  • let me start off by saying that i TOTALLY agree with you, alena. my parents own their own business which enabled my mother to stay at home with my sister and all for our entire lives. i've been in the situation where i had to work and try to be a mommy and let me just say, it was NOT for me. i would cry every time skyler had a school party or a field trip i could not attend. even though i had a very prestigious job, i knew that "I" was meant for one thing in this world and that was to be a SAHM and wife. Thank goodness when I finally got pregnant with Gavin, I was able to do just that. I can't thank my mom enough to this day for all she sacrificed for me and my sister and I hope that my children will look up to me and respect me for what I am doing for them. Even after the rest of my children go off to school, I have no intention on ever going back to work unless something tragic should happen and I HAD to.  I love being here when Skyler gets home from school. I would never judge those that choose to work outside of the home, but it just wasn't for me. I know a lot of women have to do it & I respect that.  To say it's what a 'normal' person would do though . . . is going a bit too far!! Thankfully, I am lucky enough to have a husband that thinks what I do is the hardest job in the world and thanks me for it daily.
  • I WISH I could stay at home forever....I feel like I miss so much with DD even though she is in second grade....There are still school activities, cleaning, meals, appointments...and I am constantly struggling to keep up with it all....unfortunately I have to work at this time in our lives becuse my job is the job that pays the bills and provides all the benefits in our house...But at least DH can be home during the day (he works nights) to fill in when I can't. Every family is different and what matters is what works for that family! If DH strikes it rich some day....I will be the best SAHM ever!!
  • PeskyPesky member
    :::picks jaw up off the ground:::  Seriously, I'm not a SAHM type by any stretch of the imagination and currently work FT (goal is to be PT when DD is 9 or 10 and can get into REAL trouble).  But a lot of that is because I know, even with older kids, that it is HARD WORK!!!  So, yeah, uh, she IS working already.  Like a normal person. 


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  • I agree that staying at home does not qualify as abnormal and that couples should make choices based on what's best for their family. However, J+K are not a normal family and the show as it is now is a far cry from where it began. I don't think Kate is even home half the time let alone being an actual full-time caregiver for the kids. I used to love this show but have issues with it now...
  • Kate spoke at an event that I was at last weekend (just this past Sunday).

    She took questions from the audience (we wrote them down first and she picked the ones she wanted to answer of course), and one of them was about going back to work.

    If you remember, she is a nurse. She says that she still keeps up her certifications and everything that she needs, but she is worried that no matter what she does now, she will never be 'just a nurse' again - she's 'Kate from Jon & Kate + 8'. Even though she's not a true 'celebrity', she is well known enough that it would most definitely cause a distraction in the workplace - with co-workers and patients alike.

    She is continuing to write (shhh, unofficially, she has a cook book coming out in the future), and may possibly start to do something different after the show is no longer on the air anymore, but it probably won't be going back to work in the hospital.

    Also, she confirmed that season 5 will start in early July!!

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  • I have no issues with SAHM's.  I had a full time working Mom and while I can see that she did give us the great gift of independance and self-sufficiency, I always envied people who had their mothers at home more often.

    That being said.  I do have a SIL who INSISITS she is NEVER go back to work no matter what.  Meanwhile my brother busts his butt working 2 jobs and they are still lagging behind.  She also insists where they will live (in NJ where property is $$$) and continues to shop shop shop.

    I think stretching your dollars to make something happen is ok.  Staying at home at all costs to the detriment of your family's financial future, is not.

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