For those whose DC still doesn't STTN...

howleyshell · March 2009

I've gotta tell you that my hat's off to you.

I have NOOO idea how you are surviving after a year + without good sleep.

I feel so bad for you guys when I read posts about little ones still waking in the middle of the night.

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chibride4 · March 2009

Same here!! All the more reason to sleep train when they're young, if you ask me. DS was the worst sleeper as a newborn and he now takes 2 3-hour naps per day and sleeps 10-11 hour each night. That means more sleep for DH and me, which really helps when you have a little one running around the rest of the day. ;-)

Sorry, guys... just had to AW.

howleyshell · March 2009

While I am a fan of sleep training for my family I do respect those who decide not to do it.

I honestly didn't mean to sound judgmental - I just try to picture my life and my 1 yr old's life without good sleep still and have a hard time imagining it.

I'm sure it's very challenging and I just wanted you guys to know that I honestly do admire you for pulling it off for so long.

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I think DH and I would end up divorced. ?(just kidding but you get the idea)

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Neither of us is particularly fun to be around with extended sleep deprivation.....?

chipsgrrl · March 2009

I've tried it all and still have PLENTY of nights without STTN. I feel like it will never end. Crying

bim38106 · March 2009

chipsgrrl:
I've tried it all and still have PLENTY of nights without STTN. I feel like it will never end.

me too! we've done sleep training..many times.. and it helped a LOT.. but not completely. and we follow the book, do it all "right", before anyone suggests we're not consistent But there's always something... sick, teething, travel.. next up, moving. ugg.

saragus · March 2009

What is the point of this post? To brag that you are getting lots of sleep?

I have tried all sorts of sleep training, and my DD just isn't ready to STTN. Thanks for reminding me of what I'm missing, though.

citygirl_ · March 2009

Um thanks?

nosoup4u · March 2009

saragus:
What is the point of this post? To brag that you are getting lots of sleep?

My thoughts exactly.

Of all the jackass posts on the Nest, this is one of the best.

howleyshell · March 2009

Well... no..... this "jackass" isn't exactly well rested.

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I've been up since 2 am - non-stop. ?The 2.5 yr old ran 104 degrees of fever last night and it scared the crap outta me. ?The 14 month old is cutting molars AND incisors at the same time and didn't sleep for more than 30 minutes consecutively last night at all.

So... no. ?I'm not trying to rub your nose in anything.

Having a rough night reminded me that many live that kind of "rough night" every single night with out a break from it.?

I just saw a post about TTC where the OP and many responders were discussing the pros and cons of delaying TTC #2 until #1 slept better.

It got me thinking about just how freaking hard it must be for those of you who don't get good sleep regularly to function day in and day out without having had good sleep for over a year now.

Not meant to be mean. ?Honestly meant as a hats off to those of you who bust your @sses to take good care of your children.

I feel much the same way about mothers of multiples. ?I have no idea how the hell they do it but I admire them greatly.

Sorry to have stirred some kind of pot.

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I honestly just wanted to recognize those mothers who live very challenging lives in order to take care of their kids in the middle of the night for such an extended period of time.

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Don't worry - it won't happen again.?

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AlisaS · March 2009

Got twins, we both work FT and neither STTN. They are almost 2.

Psssssst: We are a damn happy family. Wink I know that seems difficult to believe but my DH and I handle things amazingly well and laugh every day.

I think I am lucky to be with a man and to be a person who is flexible and rises to every challenge with a smile while being ever-mindful of the extreme joys our boys bring to our lives.

They'll sleep eventually! Thanks for the kudos!

nosoup4u · March 2009

howleyshell:
I feel much the same way about mothers of multiples. I have no idea how the hell they do it but I admire them greatly.
Sorry to have stirred some kind of pot.
I honestly just wanted to recognize those mothers who live very challenging lives in order to take care of their kids in the middle of the night for such an extended period of time.

Hmm. my comment was more directed towards the first response (I should have put "thread" instead of "post", my fault), but there is something overdramatic about grouping parents of non-sttn babies with parents of multiples - I think there are many parents in this world who have probably learned to live with non-continuous/less sleep, and who function just fine.

The whole cult of sleeping/sleep training that is so prevelant in our country and on this board isn't the end-all be-all of parenting. And even if you didn't mean it that way, your original post can be (and was) misconstrued as a thinly-veiled pro-sleep-training post.

britelights · March 2009

Yup, I am one that doesn't STTN yet! Nick is 16 months and has massive stomach stomach issues....he needs to eat (bottle...his only one of the day) throughout the night or he gets sick. So, I am up at least once with him....DH doesn't get up that much anymore. It is tough and days like yesterday, which I was working on 2 hrs of sleep suck, but luckily, Nichola sis so dam cute, it makes it worth-while...

FWIW, I didn't think this was a jackass post.

britelights · March 2009

Clearly, as you can tell from my typos....I don't get much sleep...lol

Erin&Rod · March 2009

It's hard, but after about the 10th month of waking up frequently throughout the night, we're used to it. We've also tried everything. We go through good nights and bad nights and we cherish the good ones. I keep thinking that when we do have baby # 2 at least we'll be ready for sleepless nights.

MrsDR1015 · March 2009

My DD has STTN sporadically since she was about 8 months old. Recently, she has started waking up again (usually twice), because she's cutting three molars. Sad Poor kid...

Hopefully, we'll be back to STTN again, soon, because I don't know how much more I can take...

Collski:-) · March 2009

A child that does not STTN, produces cranky unhappy parents b/c the DC is not happy. My son sleeps 11 hours every night and 3 hours every day. I work full time 40+ hours a week and have an AWESOME daycare mother. DS needs his sleep, so don't we. My DM took him for two days and RUINED HIM, never let him CIO at all, never mind the 10 minutes I told her too, she's not working and wanted him so i said OKAY!. Well she drops him off a day early, yesterday with one 30 minute nap, GOD HELP ME. Poor DS was a mess last night, could not eve deal with himself, woke up a few times for the bink then 6 am and was whining and crying putting his head down every few minutes PLUS had a low grade temp. Brought to pedi this morning and he's fine. SaysI would have BET THE HOUSE it's probably b/c he's run down. Babies get run down too and all i'm going to say is my DM will not be taking him more than one night until he's two.

Collski:-) · March 2009

aggh, my laptop f ed up and posted my post b/f i was done. Too tired to fix and going to bed. in any case, my DS has nights he doesn't sleep and it sucks. GL everyone!

AlisaS · March 2009

Collski:-):
A child that does not STTN, produces cranky unhappy parents b/c the DC is not happy. My son sleeps 11 hours every night and 3 hours every day. I work full time 40+ hours a week and have an AWESOME daycare mother. DS needs his sleep, so don't we. My DM took him for two days and RUINED HIM, never let him CIO at all, never mind the 10 minutes I told her too, she's not working and wanted him so i said OKAY!. Well she drops him off a day early, yesterday with one 30 minute nap, GOD HELP ME. Poor DS was a mess last night, could not eve deal with himself, woke up a few times for the bink then 6 am and was whining and crying putting his head down every few minutes PLUS had a low grade temp. Brought to pedi this morning and he's fine. SaysI would have BET THE HOUSE it's probably b/c he's run down. Babies get run down too and all i'm going to say is my DM will not be taking him more than one night until he's two.

I am certainly not a cranky parent nor do I have cranky, unhappy kids. Probably because DH and I don't feel the need to let them CIO or get nuts about it.

SportsLover · March 2009

I have twins and have raised them exactly the same. One sleeps through the night and one does not consistently STTN. Sometimes sleep training does NOT work on a child.

citygirl_ · March 2009

Collski:-):
A child that does not STTN, produces cranky unhappy parents b/c the DC is not happy. My son sleeps 11 hours every night and 3 hours every day. I work full time 40+ hours a week and have an AWESOME daycare mother. DS needs his sleep, so don't we. My DM took him for two days and RUINED HIM, never let him CIO at all, never mind the 10 minutes I told her too, she's not working and wanted him so i said OKAY!. Well she drops him off a day early, yesterday with one 30 minute nap, GOD HELP ME. Poor DS was a mess last night, could not eve deal with himself, woke up a few times for the bink then 6 am and was whining and crying putting his head down every few minutes PLUS had a low grade temp. Brought to pedi this morning and he's fine. SaysI would have BET THE HOUSE it's probably b/c he's run down. Babies get run down too and all i'm going to say is my DM will not be taking him more than one night until he's two.

What are you talking about? My child doesn't STTN and no one is our house is "cranky" by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe you and your kid are cranky, but we certaintly aren't...

Brideinbklyn · March 2009

DD does sleep through the night now, but she did not do it fully until she was around 14 months. We did not do CIO or any other formal sleep training, just slowly weaning her off of night feedings until she eventually stopped waking. But as far as night waking went, I think we had it pretty easy. She could usually be coaxed right back to sleep with her paci or some back rubbing. Looking back, I am happy with the way we did it. I think whatever works best for you and your family is the right thing. CIO was not for us, but if we had a different child we would probably have made a different choice.

I guess I was more tired back then then now, but I do not remember it being too bad. But now when she does occasionally wake due to teething or whatever I am so annoyed! I guess once you get used to STTN it is hard to go back.

britelights · March 2009

Hmmm...dh, I and ds aren't really cranky over the lack of sleep. I guess some people handle it better than others;)

Erin&Rod · March 2009

Collski:-):
A child that does not STTN, produces cranky unhappy parents b/c the DC is not happy. My son sleeps 11 hours every night and 3 hours every day. I work full time 40+ hours a week and have an AWESOME daycare mother. DS needs his sleep, so don't we. My DM took him for two days and RUINED HIM, never let him CIO at all, never mind the 10 minutes I told her too, she's not working and wanted him so i said OKAY!. Well she drops him off a day early, yesterday with one 30 minute nap, GOD HELP ME. Poor DS was a mess last night, could not eve deal with himself, woke up a few times for the bink then 6 am and was whining and crying putting his head down every few minutes PLUS had a low grade temp. Brought to pedi this morning and he's fine. SaysI would have BET THE HOUSE it's probably b/c he's run down. Babies get run down too and all i'm going to say is my DM will not be taking him more than one night until he's two.

I have never heard anything about children who do not sttn being unhappy. You don't know what you are talking about. There are many of us on here who have very happy kids who don't sttn.

saragus · March 2009

Collski:-):
A child that does not STTN, produces cranky unhappy parents b/c the DC is not happy. My son sleeps 11 hours every night and 3 hours every day. I work full time 40+ hours a week and have an AWESOME daycare mother. DS needs his sleep, so don't we. My DM took him for two days and RUINED HIM, never let him CIO at all, never mind the 10 minutes I told her too, she's not working and wanted him so i said OKAY!. Well she drops him off a day early, yesterday with one 30 minute nap, GOD HELP ME. Poor DS was a mess last night, could not eve deal with himself, woke up a few times for the bink then 6 am and was whining and crying putting his head down every few minutes PLUS had a low grade temp. Brought to pedi this morning and he's fine. SaysI would have BET THE HOUSE it's probably b/c he's run down. Babies get run down too and all i'm going to say is my DM will not be taking him more than one night until he's two.

I'm sorry, but that message doesn't even make sense. Good for you for the 11+ hours at night, some of us aren't so lucky. But we aren't "cranky."

MrsKellyOrBust · March 2009

I hate this thread.

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