Limit on having more than 2 (biological) children

gracendantho26 · February 2009

I saw this posted on my local board. Thoughts on this potentially flameful topic?

Evil Widgets · February 2009

I think ones ability to reproduce should be one of the fundamental rights of humanity..take away ones ability to reproduce (or limit)..what freedom do you really have.

What are they going to do..tie your tubes by force after your 2nd child?

jennieliz · February 2009

?Many organisations think it is not part of their business."

And that's what I think too... it's no business if I have two, one, or five kids. It's my responsibility to take care of them and I shouldn't have more than I can take care of. But to limit the number of kids one can have would make us like the Chinese and look at their orphanages. It's very sad.

AngelaSue · February 2009

Well, I must be irresponsible because I will be having baby #3 in three weeks. And I know we're not done.

Personally, I don't think the gov't should be able to tell you how many kids you can have.

Halo79RN · February 2009

wow.. now that article is just insane.

Chrisy-Wyobride · February 2009

Well, generally the people having fewer children are the well-off people/educated, therefore concentrating wealth/priveledge/knowledge to a small fraction of the world populus...at some point the well-off won't be able to "support" the less well off & thereby will stop...hence a huge class divide & enormous poverty as seen in places like India. I think it's more an obligation for those who have lots of money/resources to share that w/ children...not vice versa...so there :oP

kjlrs · February 2009

i think it's ridiculous. trust me, i would be in favor of doing something to prevent crazy idiot moms like the octuplet mom, but a limit of two is not only not fair, i also don't believe it's feasible or even makes sense. if there is some sort of proof that too many kids are a burden on our country (other than those families relying on govt/tax dollars) then someone would need to address how many kids are okay to have, the average of those kids versus parents, etc. additionally, would the rule be that a mom couldn't have more than 2 kids but a dad could go around having as many as he wanted? if mom and dad have different numbers of kids from previous relationships then which number wins - if mom is entitled to have another kid can dad still father it? what exactly is the penalty if you have more than 2 kids? even if i thought it was a good idea to force contraception, accidents happen so then what exactly is the plan - forced abortion? forcing people to give kids up for adoption when they already have loving homes - them being adopted doesn't make for fewer children in the country and thus less "burden". and lastly, ditto pp about china.

sorry if that was rant-like. just what came to my mind when reading the article.

Kelly Madonna · February 2009

One could argue that actually we NEED people to be having more kids. We already know that when we (meaning our age group) retire there are not going to be enough working people in the next generation to pay for our retirement. To keep the U.S. competitive, we NEED to picking up the pace.

Marce921 · February 2009

kjlrs:

i think it's ridiculous. trust me, i would be in favor of doing something to prevent crazy idiot moms like the octuplet mom, but a limit of two is not only not fair, i also don't believe it's feasible or even makes sense. if there is some sort of proof that too many kids are a burden on our country (other than those families relying on govt/tax dollars) then someone would need to address how many kids are okay to have, the average of those kids versus parents, etc. additionally, would the rule be that a mom couldn't have more than 2 kids but a dad could go around having as many as he wanted? if mom and dad have different numbers of kids from previous relationships then which number wins - if mom is entitled to have another kid can dad still father it? what exactly is the penalty if you have more than 2 kids? even if i thought it was a good idea to force contraception, accidents happen so then what exactly is the plan - forced abortion? forcing people to give kids up for adoption when they already have loving homes - them being adopted doesn't make for fewer children in the country and thus less "burden". and lastly, ditto pp about china.

sorry if that was rant-like. just what came to my mind when reading the article.

PP made a lot of good points. Also, what if on the second pregnancy they ended up with twins? Force them to abort one? Adopt one out? WTH? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Katie&Jason2005 · February 2009

This disgusts me, especially with the mention of abortion! So if I have 2 kids and get PG with my 3rd, I should have to get rid of it??? Completely disgusting.

gracendantho26 · February 2009

I think the idea of the gov't mandating how many kids we have is insane. I guess the feeling is that we should only replace ourselves because of the impact each additonal child has on the envrionment..that makes sense to an extent. Not burdeing the earth with more people leaving a carbon footprint..it's interesting.

We don't have enough jobs for people now though so I'm not sure this is a reason to have more:

One could argue that actually we NEED people to be having more kids. We already know that when we (meaning our age group) retire there are not going to be enough working people in the next generation to pay for our retirement. To keep the U.S. competitive, we NEED to picking up the pace.

shopgirl78 · February 2009

How would the goven't regulate that? They can barely run the DMV. I think its a horrible idea. I think it violates ethics, religious freedom and on and on and on....ask China how restricting reproduction worked for them??

SaraSmile · February 2009

Pelosi wants more funding for abortion to "control the population". It totally disgusts me and that is why I am completely again government money funding abortion - at home and abroad.

wellfleet04 · February 2009

While I don't agree AT ALL with a government mandate on how many children people should have, or reducing the population through abortion, I understand the premise of the article and do kind of agree that FOR ME having more than two children does feel a little greedy and irresponsible. It is actually one of the things we considered when planning the size of our family. DH and I both feel that two biological children is more than our share of the world's resources (speaking environmentally) so even though we could afford more we are stopping at two. BUT, that is just us. I don't think my reasoning should be mandated for everyone else.

Amanda&Chris · February 2009

I think that article/viewpoint is very narrow minded. It's only looking at one aspect of having children--more people means a large carbon footprint. I don't want to repeat what others have said, but for many reasons I think it is a bad idea.

I do, however, agree that more of an emphasis should be placed on birth control for teenagers and that everyone, even those without insurance should have access to birth control. That was kind of the point made at the end of the article, although I don't agree with encouraging abortions.

pincushions · February 2009

wellfleet04:
While I don't agree AT ALL with a government mandate on how many children people should have, or reducing the population through abortion, I understand the premise of the article and do kind of agree that FOR ME having more than two children does feel a little greedy and irresponsible. It is actually one of the things we considered when planning the size of our family. DH and I both feel that two biological children is more than our share of the world's resources (speaking environmentally) so even though we could afford more we are stopping at two. BUT, that is just us. I don't think my reasoning should be mandated for everyone else.

ditto..

MTbridess · February 2009

From an environmental standpoint, I agree that the earth cannot and will not support the human population at some point in the future. I don't think legislation is the answer, but I think more educated people should consider the environmental effects of having large families and shouldn't discount it just b/c they like the idea of a big family.

I don't know the answer, but from an environmental standpoint, it's important to consider when planning a family. Maybe large families should consider off-setting your environmental footprint by only owning one big car and taking public transportation a lot or focusing on adding solar to your house or other environmentally friendly practices that you can pass on to your larger family of kids so they can have less of an impact on the resources/earth. I also agree with sex education.

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