November 2013 Moms
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Ezra for a boy or girl?
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DH and I are officially having a girl as of today. Woot woot!
I like the name Ezra, but I know that it is originally a boy's name.
Is Ezra bad for a girl's name?
I like the name Ezra, but I know that it is originally a boy's name.
Is Ezra bad for a girl's name?
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Re: Ezra for a boy or girl?
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MMC 01/26/12
MC 12/25/12, D&C 01/05/13
BFP 03/05/13, EDD 11/12/13. HB 175 @ 9w2d. Its a Girl!
DX with EA/TEF Type C & Tracheomalaysia
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BFP 1/11/18, EDD 9/21/18
What about:
Eliza
Elizabeth
Esther
ETA: the baby name board would have great suggestions for a girl's name with a similar feel or sound.
Sawyer Lynn
Born 10.11.13
It isnt a beautiful girl name.
This boy name on girls trend is killing off great legitimate, masculine names. It is irreversible, and is a major double standard.
Tell 'ya what? I will endorse boy names on girls the day you name your son Elizabeth or Catherine. Deal?
Sawyer isn't a boy name. It isn't a first name at all. It is a surname and because surnames are only carried by males, it is considered a masculine name.
1. Beauty is subjective. In case you don't understand what that means, let me explain: There is no set definition for what makes something beautiful; therefore, my perception of beauty is going to be different than yours.
2. To say that the trend is "killing off great legitimate, masculine names" is a little extreme. Just because a few people name their daughters "Ezra" doesn't mean that it can no longer be used as a boy name. If you believe it does, maybe you need to check yourself for that same double standard you mention in your post.
3. Your endorsement was not requested nor required. No deal.
Question is: do you mind? Do you want your DD to have a somewhat controversial name or be the cause of some confusion? Up to you!
Personally, I wouldn't for the first name I'd explore other more accepted names like Ellie, Esther, Evangeline, Eva, etc. or use it for her middle name.
This is honestly another thing to consider. By giving her a very defined boy's name, you are inviting comments (either to your face or behind your back) on your choice. Is it fair? no. Do people do it anyways? yes.
People will always judge you for every parenting decision - with or without your consent, sometimes to your face, sometimes behind your back. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to deal with this, but the world isn't perfect.
You've seen the reactions in this thread, and I'd guess it's a pretty accurate reaction on how people in real life will react also.
Sorry if that sounds harsh - it's not pretty, but it is reality.
1. Not addressing beauty, addressing masculinity of Ezra. You emphasized the wrong part of my opinion. It's a beautiful MASCULINE name.
2. When was the last time you met more than one Leslie, Shannon, Ashley, etc. who was a boy? Extreme? No. Case in point.
3. OP asked for opinions. As such, I delivered. Deal.
1. I understand what you're trying to say, but we're still discussing whether or not the name is beautiful for a girl. I think it is; you think it's not. Subjective.
2. Again, I completely understand your argument here. I think the language you chose to use was a little strong, and more importantly, I don't think the "legitimacy" of a name, in regards to gender, is set in stone. My middle name is Ashley, and I was named after an uncle of the same name. No one in my family is crying over the fact that nowadays people don't generally name boys Ashley, and certainly no one is chastising my mother for contributing to the "problem," as you would call it. Frankly, it's just not that big of a deal because it's all so subjective (see #1).
3. Because you were commenting on my post, I assumed your response was directed toward me. Silly me. I'm glad to now realize that it wasn't, because your comments seemed a little argumentative as a reply to someone who was merely offering a solicited opinion.
1. I understand what you're trying to say, but we're still discussing whether or not the name is beautiful for a girl. I think it is; you think it's not. Subjective.
2. Again, I completely understand your argument here. I think the language you chose to use was a little strong, and more importantly, I don't think the "legitimacy" of a name, in regards to gender, is set in stone. My middle name is Ashley, and I was named after an uncle of the same name. No one in my family is crying over the fact that nowadays people don't generally name boys Ashley, and certainly no one is chastising my mother for contributing to the "problem," as you would call it. Frankly, it's just not that big of a deal because it's all so subjective (see #1).
3. Because you were commenting on my post, I assumed your response was directed toward me. Silly me. I'm glad to now realize that it wasn't, because your comments seemed a little argumentative as a reply to someone who was merely offering a solicited opinion.
You keep claiming subjectivity like it applies in this circumstance. It doesn't.
A name, ESPECIALLY one like Ezra, has a history and a cultural context. One can choose to ignore that by slapping Ezra on a girl. However, that demonstrates a naming style (boy names on girls) it doesn't change the name from masculine to feminine.
You can keep claiming that it's all subjective, as you have, but it's truly a demonstration of ignorance.
For an example of the history of the name Ezra (which has already been written long before our time and therefore is "in stone") PLEASE research the etymology of the name Ezra.
We will be finalizing our baby's name in the next month so that we can put it on the baby shower invites. I will definitely keep you posted on the name.
Thank you again!!
You point out etymology, so you obviously understand how words, even proper nouns, evolve over time. Traditionalists often get their panties in a wad about it, but it's natural and happens regardless. At the heart of your argument is a feeling/opinion (subjective) that we should protect the gender specificity of names, especially those with such an illustrious history as "Ezra." I agree with you that Ezra is traditionally a masculine name, and naming a girl Ezra doesn't automatically make it feminine. That's something that happens over time (you already provided numerous examples). Where we part is our feeling/opinion on the issue of using masculine names for girls. I don't have a problem with it. I actually think that naming a girl Ezra honors the history of the name in the same way that naming a boy Ezra does. That's the subjective part. I don't see how you're not getting that. You're trying to use logic to prove an opinion, and it's not going to work. We can argue all day about whether chocolate is better than vanilla, and we can even use some logic to back up our arguments, but it really comes down to taste, and who can account for that?
Further, I'm not sure why you're getting so dang upset about it. Implying that I'm ignorant? Geez ... I don't know you, but I can tell from these few posts that you're not ignorant (about this issue at least) and don't lack intelligence. However, it seems like you get offended (intimidated maybe?) and lash out when someone disagrees with you, and I think you need to work on that. Best wishes in that endeavor.
Good luck!
Aw, I love Charlotte's Web AND the name Avery for a boy! But obviously, my opinions on names do not generally fall under what is considered popular for the time, so I can't blame you for going with something else for your son. When DH and I were choosing names, I had to keep reminding myself that it wouldn't exactly be fair to expect LO to be as ok with "difference" as I am.
Thanks :-p