In response to my post

oliversmom03

I just read all the posts, and again, thank you to everyone for their condolences. I didn't think it would drag out still, but there were a few things I wanted to address.

Ghost Monkey: I saw today you put a post yesterday about when I said I was not going to respond. You made some comment about me being logged in. I almost never log off bc this is my computer, so why the fluck should I? I'm sorry, anytime I am not on this site, I will remember to press the log off button. Didn't know you cared enough to stalk me sweetie. And yes GM, I have posted more than once your highness. I am sure you are keeping count. I saw that response as well, where you claimed I only did an intro and that's it! 

In addition, I don't remember who was the SICK BROAD that posted about me lying about my son's death, but the baby in my picture is in fact my son who is now gone. edited . He was born 3/5/2013 and went with God, 3/24/2013. I would never make that up. But, please, you sick b!@#$, call. Don't worry, the mortuary and cemetery remember me, bc I sent him out in style, and they said that is the cutest boy they ever did see. Would you jealous pieces of trash like a picture of his custom made casket? I laid my little man to rest, and don't you ever question me, bc I was responding to your sh!#. And again, I am not calling all of you names. Just the ppl that thought I was lying about my son being gone. That's okay ladies, say whatever you want. You may have your babies, you may not. I made peace with my son's death, and I have the most beautiful angel looking over me and my family. And the only thing I ever asked him was to look over all the babies on these other boards, and to please bring all the future mama's of the world healthy ones. I would never want any of you to go through what I did. Not even you GM. Despite all the stuff you have said.

Anybody else wanna call me a liar and have questions, ask me.  

oliversmom03

No, read GM's post. She said it sounds like my son's story was all made up. Until the day you bury your 19 day old, I don't think any of you would want to be called a liar. I wish I was a liar and he was here. So no, I will not let anyone say I am lying in the name of my son. 

notkateanymore

You really need to step away from this. I'm very sorry for your loss, but this is not a good place for you to be obviously.

BethK22

I'm sorry for your loss, but you need to go away. Calling names doesn't make you a bigger person or help you land your point. At this point, my suggestion would be to step away from the internet and seek grief counseling or a support group.

PrimRoseMama

:::Ticker warning:::

thekikimonster:

I'm really sorry for your loss and what you are going through but you need to stop and walk away. No one was wishing you any ill will with your BFN post and you have taken this way too far.

Agree.

First OP, I am really really sorry for your loss of your sweet little boy. I don't think anyone is saying that you made it up. There are those that do make this stuff up, but I don't think anyone says you are one of them. I understand that could make you angry, but I really think its time for you to take a step back. You are taking this whole thing to a whole other level of BSC. I know you hurt, and I know you are angry. Maybe taking a time out from TTGP and TTC would be in your best interest because clearly this place riles you up something fierce.

I've lurked your other two posts and this one seems like you are just trying to stir the pot. It makes you look kind of crazy. Your best bet is to take a break, collect yourself and come back. I don't think this is going to help you at all and it might actually hurt your reputation even more.  

Please listen to the posters that are concerned for your mental health. Give yourself time to heal and absent yourself from this place if it really upsets you. It seems like it does. This really doesn't sound healthy.  

gscoville

I say this in all sincerity and concern - you need to see a counsellor or someone who can help you through this.  You are clearly not dealing well with things.  Your need to continually justify yourself to a bunch of internet strangers who you don't even know is more than a little off.  We all said we were sorry for your loss.  Some may have said they doubted you or other things that you feel are inappropriate, but the mature and well-minded thing to do is just ignore it, not go on another tirade and continue to put yourself in the line of fire.  Not to mention that putting your baby's burial information out on a public forum is wrong on so many levels.  Do you have no care for the internet trolls, spammers, fraudsters, etc. that will now be able to target you because of the information you posted here?  You really need help.  Immediately. 

krdesi

I think you need to step away from your computer and follow the advice you received the other day about moving over to the loss boards.

This is clearly not the place for you and to keep going on and on about it, isn't healthy or necessary.

oliversmom03

Believe me, I am done with this. I just won't have anyone say I'm lying about it. Plain and simple. Best of luck to all you in your ttc journey's, and all your beautiful children to come. 

MsQuezada

thekikimonster:

Take up your issues with GM through pms then. I'm pretty sure most people on this board don't want to be dragged into this shiit show.

 

I feel really bad for her, but I think the posts are going to make it worse for her.  

TMichiels

You shouldn't have to prove yourself to any of these people. I'm so sorry for you, I feel awful that you feel like you have to prove that you lost your son. I wish you the best of luck in your life, I hope you never have to go through that again. 

pearlsandcurls84

I'm very sorry for your loss. I have read the other posts and I think the best thing for you right now is probably to step away from all of this. This is clearly causing you to become very worked up and I certainly understand why you are upset but I think you are going to regret making all these posts.

I'm sure no one here is trying to hurt or upset you, even though it feels that way. Just take some time to yourself. I can't imagine how it feels to lose a son and it is still very new so you owe yourself more time to grieve. I wish you lots of luck TTC in the future.

curlylocks3

I am truly sorry for your loss but I think you should edit this post and consider taking a break from the boards. Sharing your name/location isn't good internet safety- you don't know what people will do with that information. Good luck to you.

tealowl

Agreeing w/above posters. What you are going through is unimaginable. I am very sorry for your loss.

This is not the place for you to be right now. Not the Internet. We are strangers. Yes, we are a community, but you need to take your grief to someone in person who has the credentials to take care of you right now.

mrs_tacos

I read but didn't comment yesterday. You got a lot of condolences, and still do, including mine. Losing a child in any form is a horrible tragedy, and I can't imagine the pain of what you've been through.

That being said, you're taking your anger and frustration from the comments of a few people and taking it out on the whole. This is getting really unhealthy. I caught my unborn child in my hands when I miscarried in a bathroom filled with blood because it all came rushing out without warning, and thankfully I already had to pee.  I only mention it so that you realize that you're not the only one with a horror story, and it doesn't give you the right to piss all over everyone who says things you don't like. I agree with the pp's, it's time for you to step away. 

gscoville

TMichiels:

You shouldn't have to prove yourself to any of these people. I'm so sorry for you, I feel awful that you feel like you have to prove that you lost your son. I wish you the best of luck in your life, I hope you never have to go through that again. 

That's the point, she doesn't have to prove herself to anyone. Why should it matter at all if some random internet stranger doesn't believe her? Screaming from the rooftops that it's true will likely never convince that one person, but who cares if they doubt, and why drag it out further because they do? I just don't get why it matters so much to her what some stranger in the great wide Internet thinks. She's letting one person she'll never know IRL completely affect her world, and that's just so unhealthy. 

TeeJ526

amandarene112:

I read but didn't comment yesterday. You got a lot of condolences, and still do, including mine. Losing a child in any form is a horrible tragedy, and I can't imagine the pain of what you've been through.

That being said, you're taking your anger and frustration from the comments of a few people and taking it out on the whole. This is getting really unhealthy. I caught my unborn child in my hands when I miscarried in a bathroom filled with blood because it all came rushing out without warning, and thankfully I already had to pee.  I only mention it so that you realize that you're not the only one with a horror story, and it doesn't give you the right to piss all over everyone who says things you don't like. I agree with the pp's, it's time for you to step away. 

 

Both to you and the OP, I'm very sorry for your losses.

 

To the OP, I agree with the others. I hope that you will eventually be able to heal from this hurt and horrible loss, but you need to take a break and be with yourself and your family. 

tealowl

Also, you really, really, really should take your son's full name and burial site info off. You can edit your post or just go ahead and DD.

Because this can be Googled, and it would terrible if someone got ahold of that information and caused any sort of damage online or IRL, like vandalism, trolling obituary message boards, etc.

 

JocelynB0911

PrimRoseMama:

:::Ticker warning:::

thekikimonster:

I'm really sorry for your loss and what you are going through but you need to stop and walk away. No one was wishing you any ill will with your BFN post and you have taken this way too far.

Agree.

First OP, I am really really sorry for your loss of your sweet little boy. I don't think anyone is saying that you made it up. There are those that do make this stuff up, but I don't think anyone says you are one of them. I understand that could make you angry, but I really think its time for you to take a step back. You are taking this whole thing to a whole other level of BSC. I know you hurt, and I know you are angry. Maybe taking a time out from TTGP and TTC would be in your best interest because clearly this place riles you up something fierce.

I've lurked your other two posts and this one seems like you are just trying to stir the pot. It makes you look kind of crazy. Your best bet is to take a break, collect yourself and come back. I don't think this is going to help you at all and it might actually hurt your reputation even more.  

Please listen to the posters that are concerned for your mental health. Give yourself time to heal and absent yourself from this place if it really upsets you. It seems like it does. This really doesn't sound healthy.  

**Ticker warning as well**

All of this. You say you're fine, you say you're over and have coped with his death, then why do you keep harping on what strangers have to say?

I read your BFN post. We have all been there at one point in time, myself included. Your OP said nothing but "BFN, Better luck next month." This is where this ALL got started. What the ladies said in there was all true. It should go in the 2ww posts and the person that said "I dont throw a pity party until AF arrives" was only saying you couldve had a longer cycle, O'd late and tested too early. THAT is when you flipped out and brought up how your son had passed. I am sorry for that but you blew that out of the water for no reason. It was pretty much let go and forgotten about until you made your second post about the 'rude people'.

I am sorry for your loss, I really am but you are the only one dragging this out and I seriously think you dont see that. Nothing anyone says on here is law. I like these ladies,they are very honest and knowledgable, and I took away some great advice when I was going through my TTC process. But thats what it is, advice. You can take it or leave it but judging by ALL of your responses you really should take some time and move on from this board and possibly this site. Seriously, take some time away. Focus on you and your family and stop posting about this. If anyone is making this worse, I'm sorry to say, its you. If you have an issue with GhostMonkey, PM her. Hash it out there.

mamathefox

MsQuezada:

thekikimonster:

Take up your issues with GM through pms then. I'm pretty sure most people on this board don't want to be dragged into this shiit show.

 

I feel really bad for her, but I think the posts are going to make it worse for her.  

I agree. I feel sooo bad for her. I could never imagine loosing my child, the thought horrifies me. I hope she goes to a therapist BC I would need one for like 12 months at least. 

EmeJay

This whole thing has blown way out of proportion. We're on the third post on this and with each new one it gets bigger and worse.

OP -  I hope you were able to read the other posts in these thread, where people not only gave you their condoleances for your loss, but only gave you great ressources and advices.

I hope you'll be able to find peace with the loss of your son, and clearly, this board is not helping you at the moment.

 

krdesi

amandarene112:

I read but didn't comment yesterday. You got a lot of condolences, and still do, including mine. Losing a child in any form is a horrible tragedy, and I can't imagine the pain of what you've been through.

That being said, you're taking your anger and frustration from the comments of a few people and taking it out on the whole. This is getting really unhealthy. I caught my unborn child in my hands when I miscarried in a bathroom filled with blood because it all came rushing out without warning, and thankfully I already had to pee.  I only mention it so that you realize that you're not the only one with a horror story, and it doesn't give you the right to piss all over everyone who says things you don't like. I agree with the pp's, it's time for you to step away. 

So sorry you had to go through that. I can't even imagine.

Clarinet35

gscoville:

I say this in all sincerity and concern you need to see a counsellor or someone who can help you through this.nbsp; You are clearly not dealing well with things.nbsp; Your need to continuallynbsp;justify yourself to a bunch ofnbsp;internet strangersnbsp;who you don't even know is more than a little off.nbsp; We all said we werenbsp;sorry for your loss.nbsp;nbsp;Some may have said they doubted you or other things that you feel arenbsp;inappropriate,nbsp;but the mature and wellminded thing to do is just ignore it, not go on another tirade and continue to put yourself in the line of fire.nbsp; Not to mention that putting your baby's burial information out on a public forum is wrong on so many levels.nbsp; Do you have no care for the internet trolls, spammers, fraudsters,nbsp;etc. that will now be able to target you because of the information you posted here?nbsp; You really need help.nbsp; Immediately.nbsp;

This. Seriously.

mrs_tacos

krdesi:

amandarene112:

I read but didn't comment yesterday. You got a lot of condolences, and still do, including mine. Losing a child in any form is a horrible tragedy, and I can't imagine the pain of what you've been through.

That being said, you're taking your anger and frustration from the comments of a few people and taking it out on the whole. This is getting really unhealthy. I caught my unborn child in my hands when I miscarried in a bathroom filled with blood because it all came rushing out without warning, and thankfully I already had to pee.  I only mention it so that you realize that you're not the only one with a horror story, and it doesn't give you the right to piss all over everyone who says things you don't like. I agree with the pp's, it's time for you to step away. 

So sorry you had to go through that. I can't even imagine.

Thanks, kr. It was 4 years ago, so I've had a long time to work through it. But some things are impossible to forget.  

DoctorBatlyMD

teal owl:

Also, you really, really, really should take your son's full name and burial site info off. You can edit your post or just go ahead and DD.

Because this can be Googled, and it would terrible if someone got ahold of that information and caused any sort of damage online or IRL, like vandalism, trolling obituary message boards, etc.

 

This.  Absolutely, absolutely this.  If you don't follow any other advice offered, please delete your personal information ASAP.

I'm so truly sorry for your loss OP.  I don't want to marginalize your pain.  But please, as the other women have said much more eloquently than I could, get professional help.  

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gonzol:

thekikimonster:

I'm really sorry for your loss and what you are going through but you need to stop and walk away. No one was wishing you any ill will with your BFN post and you have taken this way too far.

Completely agree with Kiki. Your loss is a horrible thing no one should experience, but you have blown this way out of proportion and need to step away. 

This. I am sincerely sorry for your loss, but continuing to post like this isn't going to help you. It's just going to start something again.

Empireceo

curlylocks3:

I am truly sorry for your loss but I think you should edit this post and consider taking a break from the boards. Sharing your name/location isn't good internet safety- you don't know what people will do with that information. Good luck to you.

Agree with all of this.  

TMichiels

My comment says "I feel awful that you feel like you have to prove."  

TMichiels

MeatandBandP:

TMichiels:

You shouldn't have to prove yourself to any of these people. I'm so sorry for you, I feel awful that you feel like you have to prove that you lost your son. I wish you the best of luck in your life, I hope you never have to go through that again.nbsp;

No one asked her to prove herself.

 My comment says "I feel awful that you feel like you have to prove."  

oliversmom03

teal owl:

Also, you really, really, really should take your son's full name and burial site info off. You can edit your post or just go ahead and DD.

Because this can be Googled, and it would terrible if someone got ahold of that information and caused any sort of damage online or IRL, like vandalism, trolling obituary message boards, etc.

 

I thought about that as well, but my son is buried with celebrities. lol If anyone got past the gates to vandalize, it's prison for sure. They have a ton of camera's all over the place. But in you previous thread you mentioned be seeing someone, and my DH and kids are. Together and separate. I actually just got back from there a few hours ago. Thank you for your concern for Henry. I mean that sincerely.  

oliversmom03

Oh btw, if anyone is bored look up the cemetery. Very awesome history and beautiful resting gardens. You would be shocked to see all the cool ppl that are resting there. 

JocelynB0911

oliversmom03:

Oh btw, if anyone is bored look up the cemetery. Very awesome history and beautiful resting gardens. You would be shocked to see all the cool ppl that are resting there. 

Now I have extended my condolences but this is sick. You are a very sad, sick person. Get some help and deal with your issues.

mrs_tacos

oliversmom03:

Oh btw, if anyone is bored look up the cemetery. Very awesome history and beautiful resting gardens. You would be shocked to see all the cool ppl that are resting there. 

This is sick.  

Hooper88

This whole thing has gotten so odd.  You care way to much what strangers on the internet say OP.  Sounds like you need more than grief counseling to me.  Good luck with everything.

oliversmom03

amandarene112:

oliversmom03:

Oh btw, if anyone is bored look up the cemetery. Very awesome history and beautiful resting gardens. You would be shocked to see all the cool ppl that are resting there. 

This is sick.  

Why? My goodness. I am from the March Board and posted the cemetery history and a lot of the mom's thought the history was lovely. I didn't mean to offend anyone and I am sorry if I did. Truly. In Cali, it's just a known place with a lot of famous ppl.  

Spookster

amandarene112:

oliversmom03:

Oh btw, if anyone is bored look up the cemetery. Very awesome history and beautiful resting gardens. You would be shocked to see all the cool ppl that are resting there. 

This is sick.  

Maybe it the way you said it OP

 I think you need to grieve the loss of your child before attempting to bring another one into the world. It is very obvious you are not emotionally ready, and it takes a certain amount of time for your body to heal as well.

Take care of you first, I mean that in the best possible way and again I am so very very sorry for the loss of your child. I will be praying for your healing.  

gscoville

oliversmom03:

teal owl:

Also, you really, really, really should take your son's full name and burial site info off. You can edit your post or just go ahead and DD.

Because this can be Googled, and it would terrible if someone got ahold of that information and caused any sort of damage online or IRL, like vandalism, trolling obituary message boards, etc.

I thought about that as well, but my son is buried with celebrities. lol If anyone got past the gates to vandalize, it's prison for sure. They have a ton of camera's all over the place. But in you previous thread you mentioned be seeing someone, and my DH and kids are. Together and separate. I actually just got back from there a few hours ago. Thank you for your concern for Henry. I mean that sincerely.  

Wow. Seriously, it's not just vandalism at the site of his burial that's at stake here. You've now linked your profile here to his full name, info, etc.  I'm talking about internet trolls, spammers, etc. who will be able to spambot and phish your post and get to you on the internet.  Scary stuff 

ETA  My daughter's classmate is a computer genius who is a bit of a hacker-type programmer, and he has told us horror stories about what almost any hacker can do with personal info of any kind posted to forums and such. You're a prime target for almost anything. You would do well to get rid of all of this personal info ASAP.  Truly and for real.  Please.  Just do it.

Spookster

bunnyfungo:

I didn't comment on the other two posts, but I read them all. I want to extend my deepest sympathies for you in this difficult time. I think PPs are right, you need to step back from TB and take a break. Just focus in you and your other children. I'm sure your whole family is grieving right now, and that's ok! It's healthy to grieve. Take care of yourself, continue with your grief counseling, and maybe put off TTC until your heart has healed a bit more.

Agreed FooFoo, once again.

Luckbeababy

ChancieMark:

I'm literally embarrassed to be associated with most of you right now. 

Finally a voice of reason!

angelsnight

Sweetie, I am so very sorry for your loss.  I lost my baby girl on the very same day, she was stillborn at 22 weeks.  I can't even imagine the pain of losing a baby you brought home and was seemingly perfectly fine.

I mean this is the nicest way possible, from one loss mom to another...but are you sure you are ready to try again?  Like I said, we lost our baby on the same day, and we are trying again also, but it was after much soul searching and feeling we are ready.  Everyone grieves at a different rate and what is right for some, is not right for someone else.

I say this because you are clearly very angry still, and you have every right to be.  But the rest of the world does not necessarily know that, and cannot be expected to.  It's like if I were to go to the grocery store and complain to the manager that the milk on the shelf is expired, and he didn't really care and I lashed back with "But I lost my baby, how can you not care that the milk is expired"?

I've been through grief before, and it's a VERY normal response.  I get mad when I see pregnant women, I get mad when I see someone who is just plain happy on a day that I am sad.  Grief brings about lots of irrational thoughts.  But for your own sanity, it's best to surround yourself in situations that won't add to your grief, such as the loss board or TTCAL where they are much more sensitive to the mind fluck that is wanting a new baby while grieving the one your lost.

I'm very sorry about your BFN....I got one too this month, our first month trying since our loss and it's a big let down.  But this board has people from all kinds of situations (newbs, people that get pregnant right away, people who don't know anything about their bodies, people who have lost, people who are infertile).  You are welcome to post here, but individual BFN posts are highly frowned upon and it's simply not feasible to bend the rules for certain people.  Specialty boards like TTCAL are much better suited to your needs.  Good luck hon, I hope you get your BFP soon and find some peace.

ksuRN09

EmeJay:

This whole thing has blown way out of proportion. We're on the third post on this and with each new one it gets bigger and worse.

OP -  I hope you were able to read the other posts in these thread, where people not only gave you their condoleances for your loss, but only gave you great ressources and advices.

I hope you'll be able to find peace with the loss of your son, and clearly, this board is not helping you at the moment.

 

I've stayed out of this up until now but I just want to say that I'm very sorry for your loss, OP. I can't imagine how much you and your family are hurting. T&P going out to you. However, I agree with everyone else, enough is enough and you need to step away. This is getting very unhealthy.

ksuRN09

amandarene112:

I read but didn't comment yesterday. You got a lot of condolences, and still do, including mine. Losing a child in any form is a horrible tragedy, and I can't imagine the pain of what you've been through.

That being said, you're taking your anger and frustration from the comments of a few people and taking it out on the whole. This is getting really unhealthy. I caught my unborn child in my hands when I miscarried in a bathroom filled with blood because it all came rushing out without warning, and thankfully I already had to pee.  I only mention it so that you realize that you're not the only one with a horror story, and it doesn't give you the right to piss all over everyone who says things you don't like. I agree with the pp's, it's time for you to step away. 

I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine.