Trouble TTC

Did I just make a mistake??

So...pretty sure I'm out this cycle. So I gave Dr. a call to see what the next step is. Another round of clomid? CD11 scan, hcg, and finally that IUI??

Dr. said we could do that if I wanted but she mentioned not doing the medication since we are both pretty sure I ovulate. Then just schedule an IUI for the day after my first + OPK. I told her that sounded good. After I hung up, I was like S#$%& what did I just do?

I guess I'm just worried that extra follicle or two and the timing of the HCG I shouldn't haven't given up. I don't know. What do you think? 



Me:32 DH:34 
Sept. 2008 Ditched the BC, began TTC so happy and fun 
Feb. 2009 Started charting/timed IC 
Mar. 2011 RE Appt. 
Apr. 2011 HSG good SA good Labwork good Diagnosis: Unexplained Infertility 
Nov. 2011 Clomid/HCG/TI/Progesterone=BFN 
Dec. 2011 Clomid Overstim cancelled cycle 
Feb. 2013: Recheck SA-still good Clomid/HCG/IUI cancelled, TI instead=BFN 
Mar. 2013: IUI 1 non-med cycle=BFN,
Apr. 2013- IUI 2 non med cycle=BFN  
Aug. 2013-Diagnostic lap done=Diagnosis s Endometriosis 
Sept.2013-Non med cycle, TI=BFN
Oct. 2013-Non med cycle, TI=BFN
Nov. 2013-Non med cycle, TI, praying for our miracle 
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Re: Did I just make a mistake??

  • I would think you should at least have an US before the IUI... And if I'm not mistaken I think CD3 would still new to be done as well. Plus I wouldn't want to rely on OPKs solely for an IUI.

    I'm still new to this so hopefully other women will chime in. This is my first cycle and it's medicated so I'm not familiar with the usual monitoring process for unmediated cycles.
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  • You can do unmedicated IUI cycles, but you should definitely still get b/w and an u/s on CD3.  I am not sure how necessary a CD12 u/s would be with that, but perhaps someone else can chime in.

    Also, it is very possible to do an IUI cycle with OPK's - I just did one. Initially they told me to test with OPK's in the evening and come in the morning following my positive OPK. I was testing mornings as well so I didn't miss my surge, and ultimately ended up going in the same day as my positive OPK.  

    I don't think you made a mistake,but I do think you should call and ask some more questions about monitoring. You need to feel comfortable with the plan.

    ETA: Also, FWIW, I also ovulate on my own, but my RE said my odds of getting a good strong ovulation and more "targets", if you will, in terms of eggs, would be helped by Clomid, so that is what we did.


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  • I'm sorry that I'm confused by your post.  Are you asking if doing a non-medicated IUI is fine?  Yes.  If you are not taking any medication it's OK if you don't have monitoring and go in for IUI when you get a positive OPK as a cheap choice (if you are OOP).  This saves you the cost of monitoring and drugs to your system.  However, not having an HSG first means you still won't know if your tubes are open.  So I'd still do that.  

    And while a natural IUI is not unheard of, there are many benefits to medicated cycles even for those of us that ovulate on our own.  It makes the ovulation stronger (if you might have weak O or low progesterone).   It makes it easier to perfectly time.  It gives you the possibility of two or three targets for more targets for the sperm (although I've seen studies that this does not increase your chance of pregnancy, my RE disputes that and I tend to agree with him).  Etc. etc. etc.

    If you are not OOP, I say why spend a cycle on something with a low chance than a medicated, monitored, IUI cycle (with trigger)?  But that's just my two cents. 


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  • I will be doing my first IUI this upcoming cycle. My RE and I are pretty sure I O on my own also.  I got CD 3 BW and I temp and use OPKS.  My RE said using Clomid and IUI together is a better chance at achieving pregnancy as opposed to just doing one without the other.  It's really up to you. Good luck.  
    ***SIGGY WARNING***

    DX: Unexplained
    6 Failed IUIs (Clomid and Gonal F).  
    IVF #1 began August 2013- BC, 4 days of Estrace, stimmed with Gonal F and Menopur, Ganirelix, 9R 5M 5F, Medrol and Doxycycline, 5 day transfer of 2 early blastocysts- good quality, Progesterone, Estrace, and baby aspirin, BETA on 9/20 BFN,   IVF #2 began September 2013, stimming with Gonal F (higher dose) and Menopur, Ganirelix, 18R 14M 9F with ICSI, 5 day transfer of 2 BBs one was starting to hatch, 2 frosties: 1  BB and 1 AC, BETA on 10/21, BFN BETA was a 5- chemical 
    Getting some more testing and trying to figure out what the issue is before FET in December, started acupuncture on 11/10, RLP and some other BW nothing major to report except slightly high Prolactin. Prolactin was slightly high when I started with my RE and I already had an MRI which was Neg.  Endo biopsy=negative.  WTF is wrong with us???
    12/18/13 FET of 1 BB and 1 AC.  Hoping for a miracle.  Beta 12/26 Low BETA-8 2nd BETA 5- chemical
    After 3 failed transfers IDK where to go from here.  Still no real answers as to why this isn't working.  Getting a second opinion in February and looking into immune testing.  
    2/14- NEW RE- Immune testing showed a partial dq alpha match with DH- On prednisone and did intralipids prior to transfer.  3/14 Lupron, gonal f, menopur, HGH.  ER 15 mature all 15 fertilized!  5dt of an early blast grade 1 and an expanded blast grade 2.  BETA on 4/21.  1 grade 2 embryo frozen
    BETA #1 59 BETA #2 148 BETA #3 283 BETA #4 2,783! US at 6w2d shows 1 bean measuring right on track! HR 121.  US at 8w3d measuring on track HR 177. Released form my RE.  EDD 12/28


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  • Thank you all for your thoughts. It's so nice to be able to bounce ideas off of people that really have experience in this area.  I did just change insurance so treatment is covered. My Dr. mentioned that the more we do the clomid the more we have to worry about lining thickness, which I knew about. It's just so frustrating because this next cycle would have been cycle 4 medicated with clomid, and I still haven't gotten to do my IUI. I guess I just need to ask her more questions about the lining issue. All of my baselines, midcycle scans have revealed no uterine lining issues. I just got the feeling she was urging me to not take the medication, but still at the same time leaving it up to me. I think I'm feeling ok about it now. Plus it will be less stress on DH, we don't want performance anxiety like last time. :0/

    @Katib77 I have had an HSG (just under 2 years ago) tubes are clear and open. Thank you for the info and your two cents too ;) 



    Me:32 DH:34 
    Sept. 2008 Ditched the BC, began TTC so happy and fun 
    Feb. 2009 Started charting/timed IC 
    Mar. 2011 RE Appt. 
    Apr. 2011 HSG good SA good Labwork good Diagnosis: Unexplained Infertility 
    Nov. 2011 Clomid/HCG/TI/Progesterone=BFN 
    Dec. 2011 Clomid Overstim cancelled cycle 
    Feb. 2013: Recheck SA-still good Clomid/HCG/IUI cancelled, TI instead=BFN 
    Mar. 2013: IUI 1 non-med cycle=BFN,
    Apr. 2013- IUI 2 non med cycle=BFN  
    Aug. 2013-Diagnostic lap done=Diagnosis s Endometriosis 
    Sept.2013-Non med cycle, TI=BFN
    Oct. 2013-Non med cycle, TI=BFN
    Nov. 2013-Non med cycle, TI, praying for our miracle 
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