Sleep training or bust

shaket83

Don't post much, but would love a little advice from some wise Mamas. We decided to get rid of the pacis (10 days ago now). The boys have been so sick with colds off and on, they were spitting them out/couldn't breathe through their noses/hot messes. Once they were healthy, we decided no time like the present and ditched the pacis.  

Read ferber, can't to progressive waiting intervals for two reasons. 1 pisses them off more if they see me and 2 wakes the brother up if I walk in the room (but they have no problem sleeping through a screaming sibling). Not an option to put them in different rooms. They cry for anywhere between 1-15 minutes. Sometimes not at all. But it hasn't been seeming to get better the longer we do the training. Also, I have noticed that they are waking up screaming in the middle of the night crying, when they never did that with pacis (unless they were sick). 

Anyway, I'm leaning towards just giving up and going back to the pacis. Anyone had it just take longer then a couple weeks to really sink in. I know that ditching the pacis is never fun, but I didn't think it would be this hard  

ktpaladino

Have you read about other sleep training methods? Read The Baby Whisperer or The No Cry Sleep Solution, or Good Night Sleep Tight. That might work better for your boys. Training is always going to be tricky with two!

skibunny59

I'm no help at all.  I'm all for doing what is easiest at the present time and whatever gets everyone the most amount of sleep.  DD sleeps in bed with us most of the night because she won't take a paci and wants to comfort nurse.  I'm way too lazy to put in the effort that is required to sleep train.  Also, I think both of my newphews were like 2 before they gave up the paci at bedtime.  Now they are 3 and 5 and sleep beautifully at night without the paci.

shaket83

ktpaladino:

Have you read about other sleep training methods? Read The Baby Whisperer or The No Cry Sleep Solution, or Good Night Sleep Tight. That might work better for your boys. Training is always going to be tricky with two!

 My understanding with these methods is that you have to go in their room multiple times. Unfortunately, every time I do that if my other child is sleeping, he wakes right up. We are extremely consistent with our bed time routine, pretty sure that we are hitting their sleep window on the head. 

I guess I was just curious to see if anyone who did try to take the paci away, just had to give up and let their LO have it again. It seems like since taking it away, things have gotten worse, instead of it being rough for just a "few nights" like I have seen people talk about.  

eyenigh

A lot of babies go through a sleep regression around this age so they may not be super responsive to training or changes during this time. My son has always been an excellent sleeper but from around 9 month and 1 week until about 10 months 1 week, he was a mess. He also had a cold, popped four teeth, but also learned to crawl, stand and cruise. He was starving all night and ended up an inch taller before the end of the month. It's definitely a huge time of learning and growing for them and it messes with sleep, for sure. 

F15Wife

eyenigh:

A lot of babies go through a sleep regression around this age so they may not be super responsive to training or changes during this time. My son has always been an excellent sleeper but from around 9 month and 1 week until about 10 months 1 week, he was a mess. He also had a cold, popped four teeth, but also learned to crawl, stand and cruise. He was starving all night and ended up an inch taller before the end of the month. It's definitely a huge time of learning and growing for them and it messes with sleep, for sure. 

This is reassuring to hear. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what is/was going on with my daughter. She learned to crawl, stand, cruise and is popping out teeth all in the last month. Her sleep has been aweful. Hopefully it settles down.

 As for the OP, I never take pappies, as we call them, away until WAY later.

shaket83

Thank you all for the responses. I did give in for a nap today and gave them the pacis back. Result...still cried before going down, seemed very restless while they slept and woke up earlier than usual. Right now I feel like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. 

Amanda2011

I feel for you mama. The paci is hard to kick. We did it cold turkey around Halloween and sometimes at night I still think about giving it to her. My girl fights sleep like it is her job so we have tried everything with no luck. I finally gave in and bought another sleep training book. Its called Sleep Sense. The lady has a website and video for each day that go along with the book. She has has a facebook group where you can ask questions. I ended up spending $27 on it. We are on day 7. The first day was horrible but she has sttn 3 of the 7 nights. With now only about 1 wake up a night. We were doing like 5 or 6 a night so a big improvement. She has a chapter on what to do for twins but I did not read it. For what I have read on other books it is best to go cold turkey for the paci and that it will depend on how attached the lo was. good luck

Irishgingersnap

We did the Sleepsense solution too. Sleeping 12 hours a night since 3 months and we went old turkey on the paci.  Sounds like you are doing an awesome job with routine consistency. My recommendation would be to keep the paci(s) away and not confuse them by caving.