December 2010 Moms

Moms of 2 give it to me straight.

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I need to know how hard it is at first having 2 kids, and when it starts to get easier.

I am straight up freaking out about having 2 kids and I'm not even pregnant yet. DH and I are going to start TTC this month, and even though its something we both really want, I think I'm getting cold feet.

Sometimes I feel like I suck at being a mom to a newborn/infant/toddler and wish I could just skip the early years. I get frustrated really easily and wonder how the heck I will be able to handle two!! I know J will be almost 3 when we have another baby if we get pregnant right away. So that will make a difference, but I still need some kind of an idea of what it will be like.

The thing is that I want at least two kids, and I know that I will regret not having more if I don't try. Jack was really hard for me at first. I think a combination of my confidence building and the fact that I can communicate with him has made him easier to handle the older he gets. I know that there are constantly new challenges, but I feel like if I can just get through the first few years of 2 kids I will be able to handle it.

I have a cousin who is also TTC, and she isn't scared at all. I can't figure out if I'm the crazy one or she is.
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  • I'll let you know in a couple of weeks! (I admit to being terrified, though!) Being pg with a toddler sucks, too, but mostly because DD is still little and wants to be carried, etc. That would be easier if she was a little older and more independent.
  • You'll do fine! There are a lot of variables to "how hard it is to go from 1 to 2" Everyone has their 2nd child when child #1 is at a different age and stage. 3 year olds can do a lot of things on their own (especially if you make them and not baby them) but they can also choose not to do them at any given time a la tantrums. ;) The hardest parts for me was keeping #1 from waking the baby during tantrums or from playing, public outings when I was alone and #1 had to potty, getting used to packing for 2 kids when leaving the house. If your #1 is potty trained already though it's much easier!

    You know that piece of advice everyone gives you when you have your baby "Sleep when the baby sleeps"? Well that no longer applies when you're monitoring another child! Those sleepless nights hurt a little more at times.

    When you see your 2 children play and interact your heart warms to a level of unexplainable levels! It's worth every hard moment and then some.

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  • I have no answer, but wanted you to know I feel the same way. This is our first cycle TTC. I am also getting cold feet, but like you I know I regret it if we do not try.
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  • I have cold feet and I only have 12.5 weeks to go, haha. I think my biggest fear is learning to two totally different sets of needs. But I just keep telling myself that BILLIONS of women have done it and I can, too. I'm still expecting it to be hard, however ;)
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  • Well...

    pregnant with toddler=sucky

    newborn with toddler=not so so bad, because the newborn sleeps so much, but nights are pretty darn hard.

    3 month old with toddler=seems good for now!

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  • My BIL and SIL, totally trying to be helpful and failing, informed us that going from 1 to 2 was one of the most difficult experiences they had ever had...  yay?  I'm also freaking out a bit and I have to do this in five weeks!  It sounds so scary, but all the cute pictures of Dec babies with their new siblings on here are encouraging! :)  Lots of people have multiple kids and they all seemed to have lived through it.

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  • Just wanted to let you know that you aren't alone.  I feel the same way, and we aren't even going to TTC until May.  While I'm excited because I feel the same as you - I REALLY want two kids, and not just one (I am am only child, have a small family and don't want just one kid) I also feel so scared. 

    I basically could have written your post exactly!  Even the whole thing about having  a hard time with the baby stuff.  

    I'm just going to do it day by day when the time comes.  One day at a time!

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  • Its tough, no lies. It was seriously hard having 2u2 so having J a bit older when #2 cones will help. I regret having them so close. Would've waited maybe 3or 4 years but it is what it is.

    Its starting to get better now. B is 5 months and G is obviously 2. B is sleeping better and sitting up, so I don't have to hold him constantly. And G is becoming more helpful but then again more jealous.

    I am the most impatient person I know. And babys crying is like nails on chalkboard. I get frustrated very easily. I'm hot tempered. Dh is more maternal than me. Seriously. If I can get through having 2 kids, I know you can too! I just repeat to myself daily that this too shall pass when things get difficult. A glass of wine at the end of the day helps too;)
  • Ohhhh! Yay! I thought you were going to start in February. GL!
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  • Mine are only 23 months apart, so its different. But honestly it wasn't AS bad as I thought it would be. The first 3-4 weeks were rough, honestly, but they are with a newborn. I wish someone could hand me an 18 mo old! DS1 got his two year molars when DS2 was 3 weeks old and juuuust starting to sleep a little longer at a time. And DS2 had reflux AND colic AND didn't STTN till after one year old. He was a rough baby. DS1 was easy peasy and still sleeps a ton!!,

    I tell you this to be honest. I think it got way easy when DS2 was 6mo old or so. I think if mine were 3yrs apart it'd be a piece of CAKE compared to 2u2. Don't be skeered!!!! Now my guys are bffs and go to bed at the same time because Mason said he gets sad when Pete goes to bed. And nobody makes my little guy laugh as hard as his big brother... They are so cute together I tear up sometimes!
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  • My LO was pretty tough (she would NOT sleep without being held as most of you probably remember). I think she was a kangaroo in another life and wanted to be in a pouch until she could walk!

    I can NOT imagine if I have another infant like that AND taking care of a toddler. I'm exhausted just thinking about it!

    And I'm 18 weeks pregnant... I don't have a ton of time to get used to the idea. Surprise

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  • Mine are 17 months apart and the first four months were seriously rough. This was partially due to Oliver being so young, and partially due to the following:
    C section
    Milk late to come in
    Thrush
    Reflux
    Baby needed to sleep on me until we got meds and a swing.
    It was a serious sht show.

    Once d started napping in the swing... Omg game changer.

    Once dunk was 5 months and some change and Oliver was nearing two? Sooooo good.

    I think you have to mentally prepare for a rough patch in the beginning because you never know what shape you and baby will be in right at first. But Jackson is old enough now to handle it better than Oliver did. You will be fine. If the first 4 months are a bit difficult... Soon after, you will be golden.

    I remember talking with you about the damn 30 min. Nap. Both kids were like this. It nearly broke me with oliver because he was so darn fussy. Well, this time around I didn't have time to obsess about it. And it passed quickly.

    So prepare mentally for some obstacles... But it will be better than you think. Promise.
  • Thanks for all the feedback, you guys.  I appreciate you telling me how it really is.  As tired as I have been in the past, I know that I have no concept of what REALLY tired is yet and that kind of scares me.  But like pp said, I know that billions of women have done it.  I just hope that I'm not that one that snaps and has a nervous breakdown or something. 

    I talked with DH and let him know how I feel and that I am just going to need a lot of support and help.  I was an idiot and googled it, and of course read all the stories about how hard it is.  One thing that I hadn't thought of before is how now I'm home with Jack, but when DH comes home it's 2 on 1.  When we have 2 kids, it will always be 1 on 1.  Neither of us will ever have help unless one kid is asleep.   I read that when you have one child, you have 1.  But when you have 2 kids, it's like having 20.  :/  

    I'm just hoping that you all stick around here so I can ask a billion questions about the logistics of 2.   

    Cheekers - we were going to wait until February, but decided to try early for a possible October baby.  It sounds odd, but an Oct baby would work well with DH's PTO.  If it doesn't work out, that's ok, but we thought we'd give it a try. lol

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    Thanks for all the feedback, you guys.  I appreciate you telling me how it really is.  As tired as I have been in the past, I know that I have no concept of what REALLY tired is yet and that kind of scares me.  But like pp said, I know that billions of women have done it.  I just hope that I'm not that one that snaps and has a nervous breakdown or something. 

    I talked with DH and let him know how I feel and that I am just going to need a lot of support and help.  I was an idiot and googled it, and of course read all the stories about how hard it is.  One thing that I hadn't thought of before is how now I'm home with Jack, but when DH comes home it's 2 on 1.  When we have 2 kids, it will always be 1 on 1.  Neither of us will ever have help unless one kid is asleep.   I read that when you have one child, you have 1.  But when you have 2 kids, it's like having 20.  :/  

    I'm just hoping that you all stick around here so I can ask a billion questions about the logistics of 2.   

    Cheekers - we were going to wait until February, but decided to try early for a possible October baby.  It sounds odd, but an Oct baby would work well with DH's PTO.  If it doesn't work out, that's ok, but we thought we'd give it a try. lol

    Very excited for you!

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  • Honestly? It got better when I went back to work. I'm not SAHM material, especially for 2u2. Major props to babycakes and others!
    I am usually on my own with them a few nights and Saturdays, and that I can handle.
    And it's a million times better now that she eats faster, sleeps well, is mobile, and J communicates.
    It was intense for about 4 months, but now I actually can say I love it. And if I didn't do 2u2 I would wait until closer to 4. This is mainly because my nephew kind of sucked from about 2.5 to 3.5. If we have any more we will wait until K is 4, J is 5.5. But really, I feel like we're done.

    I think you're nervous because of Jack's attachment, sorry to be blunt, but it is unlikely baby Halo2 will be the same. J is super independent and K is a mama's girl. Things might be different if it was the other way around for us.
    I'm on the side that you won't regret this baby and you're a great mom so good luck whatever happens.

    ETA. Jn, started before you posted, I agree with the 4 month point, 6m was even better.

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    Honestly? It got better when I went back to work. I'm not SAHM material, especially for 2u2. Major props to babycakes and others! I am usually on my own with them a few nights and Saturdays, and that I can handle. And it's a million times better now that she eats faster, sleeps well, is mobile, and J communicates. It was intense for about 4 months, but now I actually can say I love it. And if I didn't do 2u2 I would wait until closer to 4. This is mainly because my nephew kind of sucked from about 2.5 to 3.5. If we have any more we will wait until K is 4, J is 5.5. But really, I feel like we're done. I think you're nervous because of Jack's attachment, sorry to be blunt, but it is unlikely baby Halo2 will be the same. J is super independent and K is a mama's girl. Things might be different if it was the other way around for us. I'm on the side that you won't regret this baby and you're a great mom so good luck whatever happens. ETA. Jn, started before you posted, I agree with the 4 month point, 6m was even better.

    Sometimes I wonder if I'm SAHM material.  I have often thought that I might actually handle things better if I was working, too, just to have a break and some normalcy.  But I've been at home for over 2 years now so this has become normal.  

    Do you mean I'm nervous because Jack has stranger anxiety and I think #2 will be the same?  Or that he is attached to us and will be jealous?  Because, either way, I am worried about both.  I know that they will be different, but part of me is scared to death of another 'high maintenance' baby.  Although, I know that does get better because Jack is doing SO much better than he used to.

    The jealousy part worries me too.  He gets along so much better with older kids than he does kids his age or younger.  I have been asking him a lot lately if he wants a baby brother or sister, and he always says "No!  No baby.  Mama and Jackson."  ::sigh:: 

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  • I could have written this post. Word for word. We were supposed to start TTC last fall but I've been dragging my feet for all the reasons you mentioned. Sorry I can't help, but wanted to commiserate. 

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  • Im only 2 weeks in but honestly its not as bad as I thought. It helps that K is a pretty independent kid, sleeps through the night and is pretty vocal about what she wants/needs. I have been sick the whole time and that has been the hardest thing on me so far. We are pretty fortunate to have family close so my mom does stop by and helps me with whatever I need, even if its just taking Kellie outside for 20mins.

    Kellie loves Barrett though and that has made it easier. I think she thinks he is her baby so she is pretty helpful when it comes to grabing diapers/burpclothes/binkies etc.

    So far so go lol. Good luck!

    Eta. K and B are 24 months apart and I really think that makes a differance. I couldnt imagine having them any closer together.
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  • I'm 6 weeks away from baby #2 and freaking out lol  These 2 boys will be 26 mos apart and I'm mainly worried how J is going to handle the new baby.  I know I'll have help and support from DH and my mom and my IL's so that helps but I'm still pretty terrified that I can't handle 2 kids.  Too late now I suppose LOL
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  • I think Jilly summed it up ok. It was hard being pregnant and keeping up with a newly walking A. I quickly stopped carrying him so much though and he learned to walk and hold hands better. Mine are 20 months apart, we did have some regression though. Hard to tell if it was from the new baby or more likely my surgery when he was 6 weeks old and I had a lot more restrictions on weight lifting....but that's a separate issue.
    Newborn and toddler wasn't too bad. Being 20 months A kinda ignored J for the most part. Would occasionally bring him his blanket or pacifier but that was it. To him newborns are kinda boring and luckily J was an easyish newborn. I could put him in the swing or nap nanny or just on the floor and he'd chill. Now When A was newborn I couldn't put him down anywhere for 5 minutes and he slept like crap for the first 6 months so we were prepared to be zombies the first 6 months but things have actually been ok. It does come with its challenges but nothing so bad that would make me change my mind on having them close. Crazy as it is I think I'm on board for a third once A is in kindergarten only because daycare is for 3. But I can already see how A wants J to play more with him and takes more interest now that J is older and playing with toys and laughing. And it gets easier still as we work with A extending his vocabulary hes not as verbal as some of the other dec babies so we have communicating and tantrum fun like everyone else does
    Now we still don't sttn here because of J so it's not all fluffy rainbows and unicorns and we look forward to sleep training in about 2 months once everyone is hopefully done being sick. Another bonus of having 2 we have had cough/colds and who knows what else passed back and forth the last month.
    I say go or it! Our dec babies are ver changing and growing up and surprise me with their adaptability. With j being near 3 he will understand the concept of a baby so much more. We used a few books to help introduce the concept to A and he saw me hold our niece and friends babies a few times and he did ok. With J you could even bring him to appts to hear heartbeat or see the baby on the ultrasound. A came along to my appts because i didnt have a sitter but he could care less since he was so young. he did like the fish in the waiting room though.
    Anyways, we were scared the whole pregnancy about changing the dynamic of the family from 3 to 4 but so far it's been a great change and J just fits right in.
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  • I think Jilly summed it up ok. It was hard being pregnant and keeping up with a newly walking A. I quickly stopped carrying him so much though and he learned to walk and hold hands better. Mine are 20 months apart, we did have some regression though. Hard to tell if it was from the new baby or more likely my surgery when he was 6 weeks old and I had a lot more restrictions on weight lifting....but that's a separate issue.
    Newborn and toddler wasn't too bad. Being 20 months A kinda ignored J for the most part. Would occasionally bring him his blanket or pacifier but that was it. To him newborns are kinda boring and luckily J was an easyish newborn. I could put him in the swing or nap nanny or just on the floor and he'd chill. Now When A was newborn I couldn't put him down anywhere for 5 minutes and he slept like crap for the first 6 months so we were prepared to be zombies the first 6 months but things have actually been ok. It does come with its challenges but nothing so bad that would make me change my mind on having them close. Crazy as it is I think I'm on board for a third once A is in kindergarten only because daycare is for 3. But I can already see how A wants J to play more with him and takes more interest now that J is older and playing with toys and laughing. And it gets easier still as we work with A extending his vocabulary hes not as verbal as some of the other dec babies so we have communicating and tantrum fun like everyone else does
    Now we still don't sttn here because of J so it's not all fluffy rainbows and unicorns and we look forward to sleep training in about 2 months once everyone is hopefully done being sick. Another bonus of having 2 we have had cough/colds and who knows what else passed back and forth the last month.
    I say go or it! Our dec babies are ver changing and growing up and surprise me with their adaptability. With j being near 3 he will understand the concept of a baby so much more. We used a few books to help introduce the concept to A and he saw me hold our niece and friends babies a few times and he did ok. With J you could even bring him to appts to hear heartbeat or see the baby on the ultrasound. A came along to my appts because i didnt have a sitter but he could care less since he was so young. he did like the fish in the waiting room though.
    Anyways, we were scared the whole pregnancy about changing the dynamic of the family from 3 to 4 but so far it's been a great change and J just fits right in.
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  • Can I give you two pieces of advice? #1- wear the baby. I never did with DS1. And get a my breast friend pillow- you can walk around and nurse with it. Love. #2- get Jackson used to daddy doing things that maybe only you do now... Bath, bed, etc. I had a c/s and couldn't do bedtime, plus LO always wanted to nurse at DS1's bedtime. We got him used to daddy doing it more so it wasn't a shock.
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  • Just came peeking around here again and wanted to say thanks for posting! I'm wondering how life will change with two and about being pregnant with a toddler!
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  • O and G are just over 17mths apart and I think that is what made it most difficult. I think if I was to have a baby right now with O being two it would have been much easier. That said, I think you'll be fine. J will be old enough for some independence and he's old enough to do some things for himself.

    I won't lie, the first few months were hard but then again I had 2 babies, not a baby and a toddler. Once G started sleeping more, sitting up and became mobile things were much easier. Now that she is out of the newborn stage I enjoy it. They are starting to interact more and I love seeing them together.

    We are talking about ttc again in the fall, which would make it a 2ish year age gap between G and a new baby. If I'm totally honest I can admit that scares the crap out of me. That is months away and I'm a little panicky just thinking about it. We want out kids close together though so it's a choice we are making. We survived 2u2 so I'm confident we can survive 2u4.

    Good luck and deep breathes :) 


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  • Like many have said already. It was very hard the first few months. But at 4 months we did sleep training and now DS2 STTN most nights. He still takes those annoying 3 short naps a day, but they are in his crib and he goes down for them pretty easily.

    He's almost 6 months old, so I just keep telling myself that its going to keep getting easier as we go.

    We had friends over last night whose kids are 14 months apart and at age 2 and 3 they play great together and are so fun to watch.

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  • 2 kids is hard - harder than 1, but Jack at 3 years old will most likely be a big help.  It is really rough (I think) at least until the new baby sleeps through the night.  After that it slowly gets easier and you get into a routine.  Soon it's like you've always had 2 kids.  It is so worth it though (until the 2 start fighting, but you'll have a good year or so before youhave to worry about that!).

     

     

  • Mine are 21 months apart. We had a tough time at first b/c of DD's reflux. She was extremely high maintenance. I also struggled with the feeling like I was always neglecting one kid at any given time. DS would be like, "come on, mommy, come on!", wanting me to play with him,  and I'd always have to tell him to wait. Or I'd need to help DS with his lunch, so I'd put the baby down, but she'd be screaming b/c she also needs to be fed. 

    I had a hard time adjusting to having a newborn again b/c I had gotten used to DS being so independent & able to communicate with me. And there were things like  -  I had to get used to doing things for DS one-handed b/c I always had a baby over my shoulder. I couldn't take DS outside in the morning like I always did b/c DD was inside napping. It was like I had to re-learn my routine.

    I was lucky DS was so good & just rolled with things. Now that DD turned a corner w/ her reflux & is a really good baby, of course DS is the one giving us trouble, mostly with his sleep issues!

    I was nervous going into things about how I would handle having 2 & well, you just do it! I think you'll surprise yourself in some ways. You already know how to be a mom, so all the baby caring stuff will come naturally. The lack of sleep is also less of a shock to your system. You'll slowly start to figure out how to do your everyday things with a new baby in tow & your confidence will grow. I remember posting something like, omg how the heck am I going to go shopping with 2? And now it's second nature & the logistics of it is easy. 

    I hope some of that made sense, lol.

     

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  • Honestly, when we first started trying 19 months ago, I was all like, "Woohoo! 2U2? Bring it ooooonnnn!" Now that I've had so much time to reflect (and some to my senses!), every single month I think about it and I get more anxious. I'm really loving DS' independence, so I'm getting less and less excited to go "backward" in our lifestyles.

    All that's to say the anxiety is normal! (Or at least you're not alone!)

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  • Oh, I agree w pp regarding getting j used to daddy doing bath/ bed sometimes. Our boys go to bed around the same time right now. While its possible for me to do both, and I do when dh works late, most of the time dh does toddle bedtime while I do baby bedtime. If anyone is overtired it is not fun for one to have yo wait.

    Also... Serendipity.. We are on the same baby making plan as you.. If we have a third? We start tryin in the fall. Gulp.
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