No, they don't understand. But I think you are on the wrong board. If you read this board description, this board is for ladies that were on the regular IF board for at least 6 months. We all know each other here due to our extended history. I don't know your history but you should check out IF or TTTC depending on where you are in treatment. Good luck.
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46 DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!! First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
I don't think a lot of people with IF understand what it's like to have severe infertility issues. I also find that some of the most sympathetic understanding people I know have not had IF issues or are even TTC so I truly don't think it's about categories like IF or not IF, with children or without. There are people out there that can't see outside of themselves whatever their situation and others that are just compassionate people that get it that crappy stuff is just crappy.
Please read the blog for greater detail about this board. As stated, this is a forum for longtime posters on the bump IF board that have strong connections with each other, not a board for those with long or difficult IF histories per se. Good luck!
I feel strongly that it's not possible to understand without having been through IF yourself. I remember life before I knew about my IF. I always wondered how it would feel to find out I couldn't have children, but that always happened to "other people" in my mind - not me. I am sure I said unintentional stupid things to people without realizing they were struggling. I used to ask childless couples about their family plans thinking it was an innocuous conversation starter. I never registered how much IF cost until it was right up in my face, causing tear-filled fights with DH and draining our bank accounts.
It hurts much deeper and much differently than I imagined it might. And even my closest well-intentioned friends IRL and family try to understand, but they openly admit they cannot. They are right. No one can understand unless they've lived it. Its the deepest, darkest hole I never thought I'd fall into.
************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************ Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1 Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant DH: Severe MFI 12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN 8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly) My ovaries are just for decoration
12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years! 2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts. 2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13 3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d. 6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years! 9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts 9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14 9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d.
11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow! 11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13 Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522 Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373 6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!
Snowflake baby is a girl! Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014! My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
I also find that some of the most sympathetic understanding people I know have not had IF issues or are even TTC so I truly don't think it's about categories like IF or not IF, with children or without. There are people out there that can't see outside of themselves whatever their situation and others that are just compassionate people that get it that crappy stuff is just crappy.
I agree with this completely. I have had people shock me with how understanding they are even when not even remotely in my position; and equally shocked by the lack of compassion in people I thought would be able to understand. I think it really just depends on the person, not whether they have actually been through it or not.
I mean, without being through it no one could really *know* what it's like, but some people are better at putting themselves in others' shoes. That's one reason why I hate when people say "I can't imagine what you're going through." I mean really, you can't even *imagine* it? That makes me feel like even more of a freak.
Dx: High FSH, stage IV endo, homozygous C677T MTHFR and PAI-1
Early loss 10/08
Lap 1/09
IVF #1 "natural IVF" - 1 egg retrieved, missed m/c
Tried several mini-stim cycles with no response
Switched clinics - dx'd as carrier for Fragile X
IVF #2 MDL protocol Jan/Feb converted to IUI, BFN
IVF #2 take 2: Antagonist, one embie, BFN
IVF #3: Antagonist, no fertilization
One last ditch effort at OE IVF (antagonist with Clomid) cancelled
DE cycle #1 Jan/Feb 2011, BFP, ectopic
DE cycle #2 June/July 2011 - BFP
10/28/11 Baby girl lost at 17 weeks due to pre-term labor. We love and miss you.
DE cycle #3 June/July 2012 - BFP, twins, both heartbeats stopped, D&C
2 frosties but don't know what's next
FET Dec 2012: BFP! Praying this one sticks for the long haul!
It hurts much deeper and much differently than I imagined it might. And even my closest wellintentioned friends IRL and familynbsp;try to understand, but they openly admit they cannot. They are right. No one can understand unless they've lived it. Its the deepest, darkest hole I never thought I'd fall into.
this exactly. Very well put.
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Re: Will people with children ever understand?
TTC #1 since 8/1/10; Me:41 and BRCA1+, DH:46
DOR (FSH 24.3)/ terrible egg quality ; homozygous MTHFR c677t
5 IUI's: 2/11 to 6/11 and 1/12= BFN
OE IVF#1-4 8/11-6/12= all BFN
DE IVF#1 11/12 bad embryos= BFN
DE IVF #2 2/13 BFP/Beta hell: m/c 5w6d
CFNBC 7 months, not doing well; decided on guarantee program at RBA w/frozen DE
DE IVF #3 1/14 ET 4BB; BFP;M/C 5w1d, incomplete m/c; MVA extraction in ER 7w1d
DE FET#1 ET 3/1714; BFP, beta 1 3/27= 197, beta 2 3/31= 1586, beta 3 4/7= 13879!!
First u/s= Twins with HBs at 6w2d! We are Team Pink x 2!!
K & K born 11/21/14 at 38wks 4 days
SAIF/PAIF Welcome
http://waitingforraintostop.wordpress.com
I don't think a lot of people with IF understand what it's like to have severe infertility issues. I also find that some of the most sympathetic understanding people I know have not had IF issues or are even TTC so I truly don't think it's about categories like IF or not IF, with children or without. There are people out there that can't see outside of themselves whatever their situation and others that are just compassionate people that get it that crappy stuff is just crappy.
Please read the blog for greater detail about this board. As stated, this is a forum for longtime posters on the bump IF board that have strong connections with each other, not a board for those with long or difficult IF histories per se. Good luck!
I feel strongly that it's not possible to understand without having been through IF yourself. I remember life before I knew about my IF. I always wondered how it would feel to find out I couldn't have children, but that always happened to "other people" in my mind - not me. I am sure I said unintentional stupid things to people without realizing they were struggling. I used to ask childless couples about their family plans thinking it was an innocuous conversation starter. I never registered how much IF cost until it was right up in my face, causing tear-filled fights with DH and draining our bank accounts.
It hurts much deeper and much differently than I imagined it might. And even my closest well-intentioned friends IRL and family try to understand, but they openly admit they cannot. They are right. No one can understand unless they've lived it. Its the deepest, darkest hole I never thought I'd fall into.
************ Signature/Ticker Warning ************
Me (32) DH (36) - Finding our way to baby #1
Me: POF/DOR - AMH <0.16, heterozygous c677t MTHFR, insulin resistant and gluten intolerant
DH: Severe MFI
12/2/11 - IUI #1- BFN
8/1/12 - IVF #1 - Zero response from max stims (600iu intramuscularly)
My ovaries are just for decoration
12/6/12 - Adopted five embryos that had been frozen for over ten years!
2/11/13 - DEmbryo FET #1 Thawed four, sadly two didn't survive. Transferred two beautiful blasts.
2/16/13 - First BFP of my life @ 6dp5dt! EDD 10/30/13
3/27/13 - After beta and u/s hell, no heartbeat ever detected. D&C at 9w1d.
6/5/13 - Adopted four new embryos that had been frozen for seven years!
9/12/13 - DEmbryo FET #2. Thawed and transferred two beautiful blasts
9/17/13 - BFP @ 5dp6dt! EDD 05/31/14
9/29/13 - m/c @ 5w1d.
11/19/13 - DEmbryo FET #3. Thawed and transferred one blast from each batch. Wow!
11/23/13 - BFP @ 4dp6dt! EDD 8/7/13
Beta #1 @ 13dp6dt - 522 Beta #2 @ 16dp6dt - 1373
6w5d ultrasound showed one perfect baby with a beautiful heartbeat of 134bpm!
Snowflake baby is a girl!
Our beautiful Snowflake girl arrived on July 22, 2014!
My embryo adoption blog: Wishing on a Snowflake
I agree with this completely. I have had people shock me with how understanding they are even when not even remotely in my position; and equally shocked by the lack of compassion in people I thought would be able to understand. I think it really just depends on the person, not whether they have actually been through it or not.
I mean, without being through it no one could really *know* what it's like, but some people are better at putting themselves in others' shoes. That's one reason why I hate when people say "I can't imagine what you're going through." I mean really, you can't even *imagine* it? That makes me feel like even more of a freak.
Early loss 10/08
Lap 1/09
IVF #1 "natural IVF" - 1 egg retrieved, missed m/c
Tried several mini-stim cycles with no response
Switched clinics - dx'd as carrier for Fragile X
IVF #2 MDL protocol Jan/Feb converted to IUI, BFN
IVF #2 take 2: Antagonist, one embie, BFN
IVF #3: Antagonist, no fertilization
One last ditch effort at OE IVF (antagonist with Clomid) cancelled
DE cycle #1 Jan/Feb 2011, BFP, ectopic
DE cycle #2 June/July 2011 - BFP
10/28/11 Baby girl lost at 17 weeks due to pre-term labor. We love and miss you.
DE cycle #3 June/July 2012 - BFP, twins, both heartbeats stopped, D&C
2 frosties but don't know what's next
FET Dec 2012: BFP! Praying this one sticks for the long haul!