Potty training...

nomi729

So since LO was about 8 months we've been putting her on the big potty. Well she started getting the hang of it so MIL bought a "princess" potty for us. She used the princess one up stairs and the big one downstairs. She has been going #1 and #2! I wasn't sure about potting training until LO could walk but I have to say, DH was right. I told him the main reason I'm up for potty training now is because I don't have to change poopy diapers anymore. It's wonderful! lol. Plus LO gets a great joy out of going in the potty. She starts smiling right after she goes potty. She's so cute! (and smart...my little smart princess!)

lancyjo

Is this for real? Because I'm thinking you're crazy cakes. LMK.

Ya Never Know

lancyjo:

Is this for real? Because I'm thinking you're crazy cakes. LMK.

Yeahhh... I'm kind of with lancyjo on this one...

HattieLove

I could be wrong, but I think early potty training is supposed to be harmful. You should look into elimination communication, which differs from potty training is some important ways. 

If you're really going to do this, I think it's an important topic to research, because it can really cause problems later on. 

     edited to reword a bit 

karleegirl

Is this elimination communication? I've seen talk of that on tb before. Not sure if I believe a 9 month old is potty trained.

slv0606

Ya Never Know:

lancyjo:

Is this for real? Because I'm thinking you're crazy cakes. LMK.

Yeahhh... I'm kind of with lancyjo on this one...

Agreed!

BrownMa

slv0606:

Ya Never Know:

lancyjo:

Is this for real? Because I'm thinking you're crazy cakes. LMK.

Yeahhh... I'm kind of with lancyjo on this one...

Agreed!

 

I call BS

shortsweet&sassy

I think at this age a child cantreally understand what they are doing. until they really understand what they are doing and why, it's more the baby training the parents IMO

Jen0204

I just don't get how it would work at this age. My mom and sister started putting my nephew on the potty a month or so ago (when he was around 13 months) when they noticed that he was pooping. I just don't get the logistics of that. By the time I get their pants and onesie off, then the diaper off, they'll be mid poop or done and I just want no part of that.

nomi729

Really everyone, DH and I started putting LO on the potty already and she is doing really well! I should have said that we did speak with our pedi about this and he's on board! He says if we can handle it, (since she can't walk yet we have to really be on top of it) then great. Keep going.

 

But let me give you a background on why we're doing it so early...

 

My husband is Russian and from Russia. He moved here when he was 9. So his whole family is very "old world". DH's mother says that she potty trained DH by the time he was 1. All the other babies that were born in the family in Russia were potty trained by 1. My SIL had her son who is 19 now, was potty trained when he was 1 1/2. I know a lot of Russian's here too and it's the same thing with them. They were all potty trained early and nothing is wrong with any of them. 

 

I think that if you make it a positive experience then it's alright.  

nomi729

You have to put the baby on the potty every 20-40 minutes. Then she'll get used to it and pee every time.

lancyjo

I'm sorry, I just can't get on board with this. I think you're pushing something that should happen naturally, with an older child. Congrats if it works for you and your culture, but you all are getting the big side eye from me.

nomi729

Now I used to think like this but then I have met people in the past few years and their kids were almost 4 and 4 and not even wanting to go near the potty. So when the time is "right" I don't think anyone really knows. :-/

BrownMa

lancyjo:

I'm sorry, I just can't get on board with this. I think you're pushing something that should happen naturally, with an older child. Congrats if it works for you and your culture, but you all are getting the big side eye from me.

 

Agreed!!!!

slv0606

This just sounds crazy and your LO's pedi has got to be out of their damn mind too! I like the idea of DS being a baby and taking things on gradually, I can't imagine pushing something like this onto his time during infancy. Your baby, your decisions but this is too far fetched for me to be on board with! My 9 month old will stay in his 'diappys' until he can walk, talk more clearly and understand what he is doing on the potty.

poobear2015

My cousin was put on the potty constantly - including at the dinner table. This reminds me a lot of how he was potty trained (except he was older).

Aaaaaaand my cousin used to pee in corners of his house a lot...just sayin.

ETA: Kudos to you guys though! I don't have the patience to keep taking LO to the potty every 20 min. But if it works for you guys - awesome! I just cleaned her up after a major blowout - so I envy that you don't have to deal with the poop anymore!

 

lancyjo

slv0606:

This just sounds crazy and your LO's pedi has got to be out of their damn mind too! I like the idea of DS being a baby and taking things on gradually, I can't imagine pushing something like this onto his time during infancy. Your baby, your decisions but this is too far fetched for me to be on board with! My 9 month old will stay in his 'diappys' until he can walk, talk more clearly and understand what he is doing on the potty.

This is what I was thinking. I just tried to be eloquent. I probably should have went with this. ;]

mkarns

Saywha?

mkarns

I will add that even if you got lucky and you held your LO over the potty and she HAPPENED to potty while hanging around there (you're saying every 20-30 minutes...Well, C would be "potty trained" if I held him over the toilet all day too)...To be "potty trained" she would have to know how to remove her clothes and then dress herself again.

This is just pure silliness.

And MUD.

MollySm

I've also heard that in other countries (India for example) this is pretty normal.  We know a couple where the mom's mom was staying with them while the baby was young, and she used to do it because it was normal in her culture.  I think it's different from what we're used to here, but if it works for people in several other countries, it's probably do-able.  I haven't researched it, but I don't think it sounds crazy or bad!  Just different.  

lancyjo

mkarns:

I will add that even if you got lucky and you held your LO over the potty and she HAPPENED to potty while hanging around there you're saying every 2030 minutes...Well, C would be "potty trained" if I held him over the toilet all day too...To be "potty trained" she would have to know how to remove her clothes and then dress herself again.
This is just pure silliness.
And MUD.

Dangit, we got played. I bought it too bc of her post count. MUD makes much more sense.

mkarns

lancyjo:

mkarns:

I will add that even if you got lucky and you held your LO over the potty and she HAPPENED to potty while hanging around there you're saying every 2030 minutes...Well, C would be "potty trained" if I held him over the toilet all day too...To be "potty trained" she would have to know how to remove her clothes and then dress herself again. This is just pure silliness. And MUD.

Dangit, we got played. I bought it too bc of her post count. MUD makes much more sense.

Nomi is just bored. Nomi, start watching Walking Dead and we can talk about cool sh!t like zombies. Not ridiculousness like hanging your LOs bum over a potty all day and calling it potty training. 

runrinserepeat

Uh, yeah... My mom tried to potty train me early. It became a giant power play between us, and I didn't start using the toilet until I was three years old. Yup. Proud moment for me, lol. For that reason, I'm going to wait until L is good and ready... I have no wish to fight her on this. 

lancyjo

mkarns:

lancyjo:

mkarns:

I will add that even if you got lucky and you held your LO over the potty and she HAPPENED to potty while hanging around there you're saying every 2030 minutes...Well, C would be "potty trained" if I held him over the toilet all day too...To be "potty trained" she would have to know how to remove her clothes and then dress herself again.
This is just pure silliness.
And MUD.

Dangit, we got played. I bought it too bc of her post count. MUD makes much more sense.

Nomi is just bored. Nomi, start watching Walking Dead and we can talk about cool sh!t like zombies. Not ridiculousness like hanging your LOs bum over a potty all day and calling it potty training. 

I'm hardcore bump crushing on you.

mkarns

sooner1981

Studies have indicated that if babies are potty trained too early (like actually potty trained--not parents doing EC, where they are the ones being trained, not the kiddos), they are way more likely to deal with lifetime constipation issues.

We will wait until C shows some signs of readiness before shoving her butt onto a plastic potty every 20 minutes during the day. But hey, to each his own on this subject.

poobear2015

mkarns:

Nomi is just bored. Nomi, start watching Walking Dead and we can talk about cool sh!t like zombies. Not ridiculousness like hanging your LOs bum over a potty all day and calling it potty training. 

DH and I just got into Walking Dead - and can't get our hands on season 2. We are dying here!

HattieLove

sooner1981:

Studies have indicated that if babies are potty trained too early (like actually potty trained--not parents doing EC, where they are the ones being trained, not the kiddos), they are way more likely to deal with lifetime constipation issues.

We will wait until C shows some signs of readiness before shoving her butt onto a plastic potty every 20 minutes during the day. But hey, to each his own on this subject.

This. You may know a lot of people who were potty trained early and "nothing is wrong with any of them" but anecdotal evidence is really nothing compared to studies. And you probably wouldn't know if they had lifetime constipation issues. Children who were potty trained early often regress around 11 or 12 years old and start having accidents. It doesn't seem worth it to me. 

Jen0204

mkarns:

lancyjo:

mkarns:

I will add that even if you got lucky and you held your LO over the potty and she HAPPENED to potty while hanging around there you're saying every 2030 minutes...Well, C would be "potty trained" if I held him over the toilet all day too...To be "potty trained" she would have to know how to remove her clothes and then dress herself again. This is just pure silliness. And MUD.

Dangit, we got played. I bought it too bc of her post count. MUD makes much more sense.

Nomi is just bored. Nomi, start watching Walking Dead and we can talk about cool sh!t like zombies. Not ridiculousness like hanging your LOs bum over a potty all day and calling it potty training. 

Nope, Nomi doesn't agree with talking about non-baby related topics. Zombies don't belong on a baby board! 

Shmogan09

nomi729:

Now I used to think like this but then I have met people in the past few years and their kids were almost 4 and 4 and not even wanting to go near the potty. So when the time is "right" I don't think anyone really knows. :-/

I respectfully disagree.  When Logan, our 3 1/2 year old, turned 2 I tried to potty train him.  We did one day of locking ourselves in the house and him trying every 20 min.  Literally 2 minutes after I would put him on the potty he would pee on the floor.  He didn't know how to make himself go and didn't know how to hold it.  He just wasn't ready.

3 months later when I got pregnant with Kellen I tried again.  This time I did the same thing with no accidents.  We stayed in the house for 4 very long days with him trying to go every 20 min.  He never had an accident.  And still to this day has maybe had 2 times where he started going and then stopped himself.

There is a time when the brain is recognizing that the body is about to pee and can tell it to stop.  This does occur at different times for all children, but I do not believe this early is possible. 

It just seems like a lot of work for nothing, because if you don't take her she can't go on her own. The point of potty training is to make your life easier, not harder.

(Disclaimer... this is all IMO)

Lena122

sooner1981:

Studies have indicated that if babies are potty trained too early like actually potty trainednot parents doing EC, where they are the ones being trained, not the kiddos, they are way more likely to deal with lifetime constipation issues.

I wonder why that is?

I think it's pretty silly and a waste of time to potty train before the child can actually take themselves to the toilet and undress and all that. BUT if the parent wants to take their baby to the toilet every 20 minutes then have fun with that!

mkarns

Jen0204:

mkarns:

lancyjo:

mkarns:

I will add that even if you got lucky and you held your LO over the potty and she HAPPENED to potty while hanging around there you're saying every 2030 minutes...Well, C would be "potty trained" if I held him over the toilet all day too...To be "potty trained" she would have to know how to remove her clothes and then dress herself again. This is just pure silliness. And MUD.

Dangit, we got played. I bought it too bc of her post count. MUD makes much more sense.

Nomi is just bored. Nomi, start watching Walking Dead and we can talk about cool sh!t like zombies. Not ridiculousness like hanging your LOs bum over a potty all day and calling it potty training. 

Nope, Nomi doesn't agree with talking about non-baby related topics. Zombies don't belong on a baby board! 

WHOA. SH..SHUT...SHUTYERMOUTH.

I cannot think of a board that zombies DON'T belong on.

bethanyturon

I'm obviously in the clear minority here, but I have to back nomi up on this one.

She is practicing elimination communication, one aspect of which is to place them on the potty at certain time sequences in order to train them to go.  If you are fastidious, it is possible to have them totally potty trained before 1.  As other people mentioned, there are many cultures where this is prevalent, I know of India for sure.

The book I read was called "Diaper Free Baby" and it basically explains the details of elimination communication.  You do have to be very rigorous with doing this, I personally don't feel like dedicating the time and energy into doing it full time.  However, I do try to "catch" her poops, and she has gone in the potty about 10 times as a result.

Before you knock it, please look into the book, this really isn't MUD if she has immigrant family members that are helping her learn how to do this.  Attachment parenting board members would know a lot about this topic if any of you have any questions - I am certainly not the expert. 

Meganequine

So maybe the original post is MUD. .  who knows.  But I have to chime in like it isn't.

We actually "part time EC" our son.  It is by no means potty training- he is in a diaper all day and night, but we plop him on the potty after he gets up every morning and he poops or pees in his little potty probably 5/7 mornings. Yipee- one less diaper to mess with and less poop stuck to his behind causing diaper rash. We make a pssss sound and do the sign for potty.   In the summer when I was home with him I also plopped him on during diaper changes and after naps- but now that I'm back at work we don't.

According to my reserach babies are aware of when they need to go and if you can pick up on their cues or timing you can have them go on the potty.  They have the ability to 'realease' it- if that makes any sense.  However, as oppossed to potty training they can not "hold" it or predict it like we expect older kids to do.  (I read a bunch of books this summer.  Diaperfree baby is pretty good if you're intersted, and your baby doesn't have to be diaper free-  Mine's not!)

The harm in early potty training comes from putting pressure on your child to go on the potty and making a big deal out of accidents.  Doing EC isn't harmful and you don't have to do it all the time and be bringing your baby to the potty every hour- we certainly don't.

Mistifier

I don't know if this is MUD or not but as pp mentioned, it is common in other cultures. My dad was born in Holland and that is how my grandmother potty trained him and his sisters (I have no idea if this is still common practice there or not though). 

mkarns

Mistifier:

I don't know if this is MUD or not but as pp mentioned, it is common in other cultures. My dad was born in Holland and that is how my grandmother potty trained him and his sisters I have no idea if this is still common practice there or not though.nbsp;

I apologize to Nomi for not being MUD. Ive never heatd of PTing an 8 month old. I still think its not practical, but that's just my opinion which is worth 0 American dollars.

NatesLady1309

I think if it's working for you AND for LO then go for it. I'm all for no more diaper changes, the sooner the better. I don't see why anyone would have such a problem with it. The book "Baby Whisperer Solves all Your Problems" has a chapter on early potty training that starts at around 9 months I believe. 

NatesLady1309

MollySm:

I've also heard that in other countries (India for example) this is pretty normal... if it works for people in several other countries, it's probably do-able.  I haven't researched it, but I don't think it sounds crazy or bad!  Just different.  

All of this. I'm not willing to do it myself because it would be even more work than diapers but have at it if you want, you'll get no "side-eye" from me. Seriously, for those who think this is so messed-up, WHY? 

 

eta- read the constipation reason... why would this lead them to have constipation issues later in life? 

mkarns

NatesLady1309:

MollySm:

I've also heard that in other countries (India for example) this is pretty normal... if it works for people in several other countries, it's probably do-able.  I haven't researched it, but I don't think it sounds crazy or bad!  Just different.  

All of this. I'm not willing to do it myself because it would be even more work than diapers but have at it if you want, you'll get no "side-eye" from me. Seriously, for those who think this is so messed-up, WHY? 

 

eta- read the constipation reason... why would this lead them to have constipation issues later in life? 

Because typically you expect potty trained kids to realize the urge, go to the bathroom, pull down their pants, potty, and pull up their pants. Can your baby do that? Mine can't. OP is saying she takes off the diaper and sits the baby of the potty every 30 mins. To me, that is a crapshoot no pun intended much more than "training". You can also put a baby's hands on your steering wheel at 8 months...Does that count as driving?
Eta bumping from phone sorry for the errors.

Amberrrr

I don't think its MUD.... I think this lady is seriously puttin her 8 to 9 month old on the toilet every 20 minutes.
The kid can't take off his/her clothes, can't walk to the toilet... What a PITA for real.
And I've heard potty training too early can cause problems.
This is just cray Cray.
Have fun spending all day in the bathroom for the next 3 months, just to have your kid use the corner of your living room as the bathroom in couple years.

nomi729

I am really surprised that everyone is pretty much flaming me for doing this. I really can't believe it. I mean, I don't go around telling other mother's what they are doing is crazy and awful and can be harmful to their child. Especially when it's NOT, unless of course it's letting your kid play with a cup of bleach.

 

Just because most of you haven't heard of anyone doing this doesn't mean it's wrong. What do you think they did a hundred years ago? Do you think that if you have to wash diapers everyday you would "wait" until LO was 3 to potty train? My grandma who was born and grew up here did not wait until my mom and uncle were 3 to potty train. She did it around 1 to get them out of diapers. But again, like I said before...when hundreds of thousands of people train babies this young and it works...why not try? Why am I crazy? I'm just not lazy. Do all of you think you won't have to take LO to the potty when they are older? Ha! Fat chance! Working in daycare and seeing kids who are 3+ not potty trained, yes you need to take them to the potty every 30 minutes to get them trained.

 

Also, to clarify, the first couple days we took LO every 20-30 min...now we're up to every hour about. She still sleeps with diapers. We don't "freak" out if she goes in her diaper. We just praise her for going in the potty. AND, when she does go, since the very first time...she smiles. Like she knows she just did something good. (She does not smile when she pees/poops in her diaper)

 

Just because some of you want to BLURT out "cray cray" and "you're just crazy" and blah blah blah BS...doesn't mean anything! Some have said they don't want to put in the time. Let me ask this...well, are you going to have to put in the time later? Uh...answer, YES! Now or later? No difference except babies get more defiant later on. Especially when they have their whole schedule filled with playing and you're interrupting them with "potty training".

 

Back to the point. I am just so disappointed in the women who trashed what I'm doing and  said this was MUD and just a fake post. It's so closed minded of all of you. I've read other political/non-political posts and everyone was having some pretty healthy debates. This is just ridiculousness because I think it comes to LO's and apparently most of you are scholars on the subject of babies. Ah well, I'll watch what I post on here from now on.