Yesterday a friend of mine posted this article on facebook about IVF and the republican agenda.
The comments she received were... interesting. Of course many people chimed in about what IVF is, although people included things like "the unused embryos are discarded". Since we're not out of the IF closet I had to do everything not to comment on how people who actually go through IF value life more than anyone, but I digress.
As all of this is so near and dear to our hearts will your voting revolve around IF issues? Do you tend towards one party or another?
I grew up Catholic, but the idea of dragging religion into all of this makes me cringe. Religion and progress don't seem to be good friends... then again the US doesn't seem to drastically change under one party's control or the other. Mitt's going to have to walk a very fine line since some of his grandchildren are IVF / surrogate babies.
I'm curious / nervous to see how all of this plays out.
Re: unpopular opinions: politics
I'm a Democrat and a Catholic, but no matter what religion or party I was I would never agree with an anti-abortion law. Women should have the right to do what they want with their bodies. I do not agree with abortion on a moral level for myself, but that is up to each individual to determine. I especially abhor what implications this would have for ART treatments. There are too many reproductive issues this would call into question and it's a very slippery slope. I also can't stand the Catholic church's position on IVF and have considered leaving the church over that (not that I go much anymore anyway).
Stay the F out of my ute!
Early loss 10/08
Lap 1/09
IVF #1 "natural IVF" - 1 egg retrieved, missed m/c
Tried several mini-stim cycles with no response
Switched clinics - dx'd as carrier for Fragile X
IVF #2 MDL protocol Jan/Feb converted to IUI, BFN
IVF #2 take 2: Antagonist, one embie, BFN
IVF #3: Antagonist, no fertilization
One last ditch effort at OE IVF (antagonist with Clomid) cancelled
DE cycle #1 Jan/Feb 2011, BFP, ectopic
DE cycle #2 June/July 2011 - BFP
10/28/11 Baby girl lost at 17 weeks due to pre-term labor. We love and miss you.
DE cycle #3 June/July 2012 - BFP, twins, both heartbeats stopped, D&C
2 frosties but don't know what's next
FET Dec 2012: BFP! Praying this one sticks for the long haul!
For me personally IF would not impact how I vote.
And I HATE when people post political views on FB. Your post is not going to change my mind.
My sister in law, that is all she would post (i disagreed with all of it) I know I could hide her, but I ended up defriending her. It was so irritating...as is she, but now I digress.
3 failed IVF with OE and 2 failed frozen DE cycles
Last fresh hail mary DE cycle starting Feb 2013
PAIF/SAIF always welcome
Multiple ectopics, 2 failed IVF's
IVF #1: Did not get to ET, embies all failed PGD (major chromosomal defects)
IVF #2: We have 2 chromosomally perfect embies as a result of PGD (Boy/Girl) 1 failed the thaw (Girl) Transferred 1, yet ended as a c/p
Thought it was the end of our TTC Journey 6/20/2012
SHOCK BFP 9/28/2012: IT'S A BOY! and everything is normal !!!!!!
Little A born 38w 2d on 05/23/13 and is a true miracle for this IF Vet!
I hope you realize I wasn't setting out to change anyone's mind on anything. Sorry if I was misunderstood on that front.
Unfortunately I think the US could do with more parties to choose from, but I don't foresee that changing anytime soon, because the alternatives tend to be quite radical or drastic that many people don't take them seriously.
In general I get so irritated when the IF topic comes up and people who truly don't know what they are talking about act as an authority on the matter. It makes me happy that Mitt has IVF grandkids, because with IF so close to home perhaps he will spare people should he be elected.
I do find it ironic to be anti big government and to set out to govern what women do with their own health, bodies, choices, etc. It would be so fascinating to see what it's like in 100 years. I truly hope there is progress so couples who want children don't have to fight tooth and nail or run out of time trying to make it happen.
This is me too. Hate it. I end up just unsubscribing from their news feed.
Me: PCOS, Blood/Immune Issues DH: Low all 3
Jun.- Sep. 2010 IUI#1-#3 = BFN
Oct. 2010 = IVF #1 = B/G Twins (passed away Feb. 2011)
May 2011 = Myomectomy and trans-abdominal cerclage (TAC)
Sep. 2011 = Surprise BFP = C/P
Feb. 2012 = sFET #1 = BFN
Feb.2012 = Hail Mary IUI #4 = BFN
April/May 2012 = FET #2 w/our last two embies = BFP (Please let this be it!)
Beta #1 8dp5/6dt = 234 Beta #2 10dp5/6dt = 695 Beta #3 12dp5/6dt = 1796 Beta #4 17dp5/6dt = 17,888 U/S #1 May 17, 2012 = Twins
Baby B's heart stop beating at 9 weeks 5 days
Our little miracle baby is a boy.
Baby Boy Owen and Baby Girl Avery were born too early on Feb. 13, 2011 due to a pedunculated fibroid, incompetent cervix and suspected placental abruption.
"What the heart has once owned and had, it shall never lose." - Henry Ward Beecher
SAIF/PAIF Welcome
Lots of love and luck to my PAIF/3T/IF Veteran ladies, especially my dear friend Zookie. Congrats to Papps, Teach84 and Starbuck on their little ones.
Not at all, I didnt think you were doing that at all.
3 failed IVF with OE and 2 failed frozen DE cycles
Last fresh hail mary DE cycle starting Feb 2013
PAIF/SAIF always welcome
when it comes to political positions I wish people would just be rational and informed about them. If you really think that a woman no matter the circumstances should carry an unwanted child, then have a plan to do something about it once it's born. Why is the end of the womans birth canal the difference between precious life that must be protected and another entitlement person who doesn't work expecting help from the government to survive.
I guess my long winded point is that I am struggling to see any kind of rationality when it comes to politics.
Dx: DH - Azoo, Me - Mild PCOS
DH - sperm found! Seems to produce only for a few days every 70 days!
Over 1 million in cryo in 15 vials over 6 samples
IVF #1 - 1 beautiful expanded blast transferred, 4 snowbabies - beta #1 11/30/11 = BFFN
FET #1, transfered 2 embies 2/16/12 = BFFN; 1 snowbaby left in cryo
IVF #2 + CGH = 4 genetically normal embies on ice. FET September 26th
SAIF/PAIF always welcome
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I self identify as a libertarian (do what you (individually) want & leave me the heck alone, stop taxing me to death & funding programs that do not work) & stuff like this bugs the crap out of me. It just shows how sh!tty our sex & science ed is in this country. Throwing abortion in the same sentence as infertility is ridiculous but that's another topic entirely. Both are personal health issues, end of discussion. At least in my book...
I am pro choice and obviously pro IVF...but i vote with my wallet.
Maybe im naive, but i don't think a single person can overturn something like abortion. I pray the rest of the government stops that from happening.
Im also curious to see how it all plays out.
I was raised Episcopalian, and i really just don't understand the catholic views on things. Like they can't move forward with time? I just don't get it.
TTC #1 since 3/10:
DX: Me-PCOS, retroverted/ tilted ute - DH- MFI, DH-4 mo of Clomid therapy= no improvement. Weekly HCG injections.
Me-34, DH-33
HSG- unsuccessful, SHSG (dialated)-no blockages
7/11-Clomid (unmonitored) BFN,
#1 Fresh IVF 9/11: w/ ICSI & AH (only option): (1 transfered, 8BF) = BFN!!
#2 FET: 2 transferred (2 6BF) 12/11 = BFFN!!
Surprise + HPT on break! 2/12 Beta 1: 6 Beta 2: <5 = c/p ( RE had given me provera... So pretty sure this ruined everything)<BR> #3 Fresh IVF 3/12: w/ ICSI & AH (2 transfered 8BF & 7BF, 1 to freeze) = BFMFN!
New RE 5/12
6/14 Hysteroscopy
#4 Fresh IVF 8/12: 5dt of 2 5AB blasts = BFN!... what else is new?!?
New RE insists its a transfer issue, immunology checked & good
#5 IVF FET 1/13 under anesthesia : Two 5 day blasts transferred
+ HPT!! Beta1: 2315 Beta2: 6442 Beta3: 31,061
First u/s 1/30/13: Shows 1 healthy heartbeat!!
Was he was right? I wasted 4 IVF's and the doctors were not getting the catheter in?!?
~~ Bump Bestie/ IRL Lynn0926 ~~
I don't think mainstream Repubs actually want this, but if the next President(s) were to replace retiring liberal Supremes with conservative ones who thought it fit to overturn R v W, then it would in fact happen. *shudder*
5 REs + 3 surgical hysteroscopies for septum/lap + 3 failed IUIs
IVF w/ICSI/AH & acu = BFP!, unexplained spontaneous m/c @ 8w2d (our little girl),
FET w/acu = BFP!, B/G twins!, lost MP @19w, dx w/funneling cervix @20w,
twins nearly lost to IC @21w, saved by rescue cerclage, 17P & 16w of bedrest
Our twins born @36w4d via CS when A came foot first
Thankful for every day
This! I am a republican and Jewish and while I am thrilled that the Jewish religion supports IVF wholeheartedly, I am ashamed to say that the republican party is so backwards in their thinking of not only women's issues but general science and health issues.
Hysteroscopy 3/2011 2 Polyps removed 4/2011
DH on Clomid / Arimidex to address hormonal issues - Sperm found July 2011!
IVF #1 September 2011 - ER 9/8/2011- 8R, 5M - icsi - 1 made it to transfer - BFFN :-(
IVF #2 Lucky November 2011 - ER 11/25/2011 - 15 eggs!, 13 mature, 10 fertilized with isci - 7 made it to transfer! Transferred 1 - 8 cell and 2 - 7 cell. BFP!!!!
1st U/S - Twins! 2nd U/S - 3 heartbeats!!! - HOLY COW!!!
Prayers for our take home babies!
2 babies born on 3/27/12 and lost. Last baby born on 3/29/12 and lost at 20 weeks.
My angels grew wings shortly after birth.
Ahava Raisel, Matisyahu Nissim & Zev Chaim - Mommy and Daddy will always love you.
IVF #3 July 2012 - ER 7/17/2012 - 10 R. 5 F. 4 made it to ET
Transferred 2 on 7/20/2012 no snow babies :-(
Beta on 7/31/2012 = BFMFN
A miracle gift expected to come to us through adoption around 9/2012
Baby girl adopted - Birth Mother changed her mind and took the baby back
IVF #4 October 2012 - New RE. Doing PGD Testing. 8 R, 7F, 2 made it to 5 day blast for PDG testing. Both Normal (Thank you G-d!!!) 1 boy and 1 girl
transferred one beautiful 5day blast (girl)
Please G-d the almighty one - let this be our take home baby!
Beta #1 158, Beta #2 318, 1 Absolutely magnificent HB at 175! Thank you G-d!!!
Baby Girl born August 5th. Thank you G-d for our precious miracle.
AMA. PAIF & SAIF always welcome - I need all the prayers I can get!
THIS EXACTLY!!! Seriously, it's as if i typed it myself!