September 2012 Moms

I need to vent RE: DH's job

So, Wednesday, DH interviewed for yet another position within his company. (This is his third interview for various positions...they passed him over for the other two.) The guy who did his previous interview said he was fantastic and that the only reason they gave someone else the job is because she was more experienced. 

Anyhow, going into this interview, we knew that the guy who did the previous interview had already called and recommended DH for this position. DH's area manager also had written the most glowing letter of recommendation ever (I got to read it) and DH was one of only 5 people being interviewed for the position. He has all the qualifications, and the support of his managerial staff.

And yet again, he didn't get the job.

Their reason this time? Literally, the reason he didn't get the job (according to the email the guy sent, which DH forwarded to me) was because he didn't "ask for the job" at the end of the interview. Apparently that's something they secretly want you to do in this company, and since DH didn't know that, they were like, "Eh. Screw his other qualifications. He didn't ask, so he must not want it."  

 It is SO FRUSTRATING watching my husband work so hard and still get passed over for promotions over and over again. He feels so trapped and he feels like he's not being a good enough provider, and it makes me angry that his job puts him in that position. He's an amazing husband and such a good employee, and I feel like they constantly take advantage of the fact that he's a nice guy and walk all over him. Andplusalso, we live in the crappiest little town and if he had gotten this position, we would've been moving to Louisville, KY, which is so much better than this little podunk piddly town. And, DH can't even apply to jobs in other companies until after the baby is born, because the gap in our insurance would fall right when I had my hospital stay and it would be so wildly expensive that we can't do that. So he's stuck in this job until at least late September. Sigh. 

Don't get me wrong...I'm thankful that DH has a job at all, and that we have good insurance and benefits. But I hate seeing him feel so trapped and unappreciated. He works almost 50 hours a week and just wants to be home more, providing more for our family, and out of this town. I feel frustrated because I can't do anything to help him with that.  

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  • I have never ever heard of asking for a job at the end of an interview! Sounds like they only interviewed because I think legally they have to. They probably already had someone in mind to promote.
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    I have never ever heard of asking for a job at the end of an interview! Sounds like they only interviewed because I think legally they have to. They probably already had someone in mind to promote.

    This is how it is in school districts anyway! 

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  • I'm so sorry your family is going through this.  That company is crappy for nit-picking for reasons to not promote your DH.  If he is that qualified, has that much recommendation from his superiors, and is that hard of a worker then they are blind and stupid for saying "not asking for the position" disqualified him for it.  Keep your chins up and remind DH of how amazing he is, and that everything will work out in the long run.  Just imagine that when the person they gave the promotion to fails and they have to then look back and say how stupid they were for passing your DH up since he was obviously the better quality employee!  Something amazing will come his way and will make all this struggle seem just what was needed to prep him for that. GL and HTH - HUGS!!
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  • He didn't ask for the job?  That's so weird to me, i've never "asked" for a job while in an interview.  It doesn't sound like he works for the best company so I would just try and stick it out until the baby is born and then look for another company to work for.  Hopefully it all works out and he can find a better company and you can move to a better town.  Best of luck to you and your husband! 
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  • that is so strange to me! i have never asked for the job at the end of the interview before...i am so sorry that you and DH are going through this. 

    you know you have lots of prayers from me about all this stuff. best of luck and hugs to you!  

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  • Oh man, I am so sorry BV. I was thinking about this yesterday but I didn't want to look like an uber stalker and ask you AGAIN how things were going. Hopefully something better will come along.
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    Wow, that's a seriously crazy reason to not give him the job. Maybe this sounds crazy also, but do you think they are not promoting him because he does such a great job? Maybe they don't want to train someone else to replace him and not get the same results?

    No, actually I'm surprised they didn't promote him to get him OUT of this position. He's currently in a pretty sales-based job and while his numbers are fine, they're not top sales numbers. He would've been moving into a more administrative job if he had gotten the position, which would've been right up his alley because he's a super organized, multi-tasking kinda guy.  Promoting him would've let them put a better salesman in his spot and would've increased their revenue somewhat. 

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  • Sorry, BV! That seems totally ridiculous. But it sounds like you can help YH just by making sure you tell him how much you appreciate him and feel supported by him (though I'm sure you do this already)! And end of September isn't THAT far away (yikes!) so hopefully before you know it he'll be looking at other options. 
  • That just sucks! I'm sorry. I feel like MH and I are in a very similar situation, and it's so hard watching your husband work his butt off to provide for your family and his employer doesn't acknowledge anything they do. I can't wait until he can start applying for different jobs (same situation with insurance) and hopefully we'll be in a much better place financially and emotionally. Good luck!
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  • I'm sorry your DH is dealing with that...sounds awfully screwed up to me. Hopefully things are happening this way for a reason and there is a light at the end of this frustrating tunnel!
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  • I just want to say sorry you are dealing with all this. I've pretty much given up on finding a teaching job right now, they already know who they are hiring but legally have to do interviews, maybe this is what's happening to your husband. He will get a great job though and you will probably look back and be thankful that he was passed over for these. Keep you head up!!! 

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  • Wait... isn't the point of going to an interview that you not-so-secretly would like to have the joy you are interviewing for??  That is the weirdest excuse for not promoting someone ever!  I'm sorry you and YH are going through this.  Good luck finding a new and better job in a couple of months!!
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    I've was a hiring manager for my company when I worked in the office and that sounds like an excuse and the most likely (i) hired someone else that they didn't expect to like as much or (ii) didn't hear what they wanted to hear from your DH in all the questioning.

    Anytime I interview for myself, I always ask when they expect to make a decision and make it obvious that I want the job and will accept the offer. While I probably won't deny my top pick for the position if they don't do this, I do look for it when interviewing candidates. 

    Is he close enough with his manager to ask for mentoring in interviewing? I used to mentor any associate that asked as well as any of my associates that I knew were applying for promotions. I felt if looked better on me as a manager to help them achieve their goals so I was happy to do it. 


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    I don't think I've ever interviewed for a job and NOT asked for the job... or somehow made it very clear that I am interested.

    That being said, it would be a really lame reason for a company to not give him a job just because he didn't explicitly ask for it. Sorry he's getting screwed over again. I can totally sympathize. H is stuck in a ridiculously stupid position at work too, and I understand the frustration. :(

    These are pretty much my thoughts. If there is a next time (and I echo everyone's thoughts to have him look for a new job while you are on ML), he probably wants to end his intv with, "Thank you for the opportunity to discuss this position. I think I would be a great fit and hope I have the chance to show you that in the future." 

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  • What kind of requirement is that??  I would think that interviewing for the position expresses plenty of interet!
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    Didn't mean to come off as insensitive. I am very sorry he didn't get this opportunity. Hopefully something better will come his way after the baby is born.

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  • imagehmp&mrj:

    I've was a hiring manager for my company when I worked in the office and that sounds like an excuse and the most likely (i) hired someone else that they didn't expect to like as much or (ii) didn't hear what they wanted to hear from your DH in all the questioning.

    Anytime I interview for myself, I always ask when they expect to make a decision and make it obvious that I want the job and will accept the offer. While I probably won't deny my top pick for the position if they don't do this, I do look for it when interviewing candidates. 

    Is he close enough with his manager to ask for mentoring in interviewing? I used to mentor any associate that asked as well as any of my associates that I knew were applying for promotions. I felt if looked better on me as a manager to help them achieve their goals so I was happy to do it. 

    Actually yeah, he did that before this interview. And he did it the interview before that, too. He always asks them what he could've done better. That's part of why this is even more frustrating...they told him that his interview skills were great and that his last interview was perfect. He didn't specifically ask for the job but he did make it very plain that he wanted it, especially in his letter of intent. He even told the interviewer that he felt really motivated to try for this job, and told him a few reasons why. They just didn't like the fact that he didn't specifically, flat-out ASK for the job. 

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    Didn't mean to come off as insensitive. I am very sorry he didn't get this opportunity. Hopefully something better will come his way after the baby is born.

    It didn't seem insensitive to me. Smile 

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  • I am so sorry you are going through this.  I could have written this post as my husband is going through similar work struggles.  It is SO hard to sit by and watch the person you love most in the world try and try without success.  It's the worst and I totally sympathize with how you are feeling.  Hang in there!
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  • Wow that sounds like a complete BS reason not to hire someone. Isn't applying and interviewing for the job "asking" for the job???

    I'm sorry to hear things didn't work out this time around. 

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  • Sorry that you are frustrated. Normally it is all about politics when getting a job/promotion. I say things happen for a reason and I am sure they will work out for the better in the end!  

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  • That's completely moronic to me. Going for an interview means you want the job. Who ends by asking to be hired for it? Sounds like they might have been leaning toward another candidate before they even brought him in.

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  • imageilovelife:
    I have never ever heard of asking for a job at the end of an interview! Sounds like they only interviewed because I think legally they have to. They probably already had someone in mind to promote.

     My old job use to do this BS. He only has a little longer until he can start looking outside the company. Are the any other jobs in the company he can try to apply for and this time ask for the job?

  • That is so strange and annoying, sweetie. I'm really sorry :(
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  • I'm sorry, but coming from sales I ALWAYS ask for the job. There are ways to do it without looking like a a-hole. Every job interview I've ever went on I've 'asked' for the job. This next part is going to sound harsh and I don't mean it to be, but if your H is in sales he should have known this. At least he knows for future reference and the next time a position becomes available he is better prepared. Good luck in the future.
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