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Is planning my own shower wrong?

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Re: Is planning my own shower wrong?

  • imagedragonlayre:
    imageBallSox:

    "Hey guys, I'm throwing myself a party for you to come bring me presents and fawn over me"

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    "Hey guys, I'm throwing a party for Suzy where we can come bring her presents and fawn over her"

     

    How is this so hard for people to understand the key difference? 

     

    Because there are people who go, "Hey, we want to attend a party for Suzy and give her gifts, but we don't want to throw the party. Suzy needs to do all the planning herself and have it at her place. I am not messing up my own house!" 

    Or, "this is her 3rd kid? Oh who cares, this child doesn't matter, only the first one does. We aren't throwing a party." Every child should be celebrated.

    Oh get off your unicorn and come back to reality. I've never said " oh, I want to buy Suzy a gift, but alas.....no shower/ party, so I guess I won't. "  I have, however, said " oh, Suzy invited me to her shower, I guess I better go buy her a present". 

    If I'm a good friend of Suzy and Suzy isn't a selfish twit, I'd be more than happy to host something  for her..or get people together and host it. People aren't bending over backwards for suzy because they don't wan to. 

    And would you people get over the every baby deserves to be celebrated, so we have to throw a full scale baby shower idea.   Showers are for the parents, not the baby.  

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  • imageBallSox:
    imagedragonlayre:
    imageBallSox:

    "Hey guys, I'm throwing myself a party for you to come bring me presents and fawn over me"

    vs

    "Hey guys, I'm throwing a party for Suzy where we can come bring her presents and fawn over her"

     

    How is this so hard for people to understand the key difference? 

     

    Because there are people who go, "Hey, we want to attend a party for Suzy and give her gifts, but we don't want to throw the party. Suzy needs to do all the planning herself and have it at her place. I am not messing up my own house!" 

    Or, "this is her 3rd kid? Oh who cares, this child doesn't matter, only the first one does. We aren't throwing a party." Every child should be celebrated.

    Oh get off your unicorn and come back to reality. I've never said " oh, I want to buy Suzy a gift, but alas.....no shower/ party, so I guess I won't. "  I have, however, said " oh, Suzy invited me to her shower, I guess I better go buy her a present". 

    If I'm a good friend of Suzy and Suzy isn't a selfish twit, I'd be more than happy to host something  for her..or get people together and host it. People aren't bending over backwards for suzy because they don't wan to. 

    And would you people get over the every baby deserves to be celebrated, so we have to throw a full scale baby shower idea.   Showers are for the parents, not the baby.  

    THIS.

    If you want to celebrate a baby, the baby should actually be the guest of honor, not the mother. And the baby should be there. In utero does not count.

    You wouldn't have a birthday part for a 2 year old without the kid at the party would you? 

    I am all for celebrating babies - each and every one of them. But don't hide behind this excuse as the reason to host your own shoer for your 9th child.  

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  • imagedragonlayre:
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    imagedragonlayre:
    Please explain why it is rude to plan your own shower, but not rude to make a friend take time out of their busy life to plan one for you? I think it would be more kind and considerate to do it yourself. And obviously manners are so 1800s if you look at half the posts on here and how they have answered. Plus I never said anything about because we live in modern times it's ok to be rude; you can still have manners and cater to everyone's daily lives.

    It is rude to plan your own shower because a shower is a gift giving event.  The purpose of a shower is to shower the MTB/BTB with gifts, hence the name.  It is rude to solicit gifts for yourself. 

    The shower itself is also a gift given to you by someone else.  You don't make a friend take time out of their busy life to plan because they offer to do it.  If no one offers, you don't get one.  A shower is not a rite, it's not a milestone, it's not something everyone deserves to have.  It is a gift!

    Put it this way, if your friend called you and said, I'm throwing a party for myself, the whole point of this party is to give me gifts, here's my wish list.  Would you say, "oh, how considerate of her"?  That's what throwing your own shower is.

    ^WSS. Plus also. You should never MAKE anyone throw you a shower. You don't ASK for a shower. Someone offers or they don't. If they offer, it is a gift they are giving to you. If they don't, you don't get one.  

     

    I would think that maybe my generation, my group of friends, was raised wrong then, but my parents and my husband's parents are the same way, they expect you to plan your own party and also expect that you provide a wish list. I can't just tell my parents or my husband's parents that I don't want gifts for my birthday or christmas, that i just want to have a family dinner, or I get a daily phone call and email. But I was expected to throw my own baby shower and provide a registry to everyone as all my friends and family only wanted to attend a shower but not throw one. How can you deny them that party? What do you say to family, oh there is no shower because no one is planning one for me? If I am providing all the food, games, the place, the favors, I feel I am not being rude at all in asking people to just come over and have fun. And yes, if someone threw a gift giving party and included the wish list, I would find that very helpful as then I don't have to try to figure out what they want or need. Otherwise it's just like saying you can't ever throw your own birthday party, holiday party, or wedding, that other people must do it for you. I was just brought up with you can't have other people do things for you or you are just lazy and rude.

    Oh dear god... I can't, I just can't. 

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    You're beyond help, dragonlayre.  You feel entitled and justified in your rude behavior.  You think that you are owed these gifts because you're going to spit a baby out of your vag.  You're not.
    Celebrate the baby and have people over, but begging them for gifts is just rude.  You're not going to get it, so this is an exercise in futility.  You will be rude and people will talk about you behind your back.  You're ok with that.  But don't come on here and tell us that it's not rude.  You're flat out wrong on this one.  It's not a generational thing, it's not a regional thing.  It's an etiquette thing...and since you don't know what that is, go find another board.

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  • imageCranang:

    Who let this twit wander on to the board?

    You're beyond help, dragonlayre.  You feel entitled and justified in your rude behavior.  You think that you are owed these gifts because you're going to spit a baby out of your vag.  You're not.
    Celebrate the baby and have people over, but begging them for gifts is just rude.  You're not going to get it, so this is an exercise in futility.  You will be rude and people will talk about you behind your back.  You're ok with that.  But don't come on here and tell us that it's not rude.  You're flat out wrong on this one.  It's not a generational thing, it's not a regional thing.  It's an etiquette thing...and since you don't know what that is, go find another board.

    Wow, I am so glad that you have resorted to name calling and think that is not rude. Also, maybe you should actually read what I have written, I stated that people wanted me to make a registry, not that I begged them for gifts. And who let you on this board? But I am not a rude person and I could care less if people talk about me. Also I stated that if it was a generational thing, why are my parents and my husbands parents demanding that I plan and host my own baby shower? I probably have better etiquette than you since you have resorted to name calling and I have not.  Never once have I said I am owed these gifts because I am having a baby because I am perfectly capable of getting my own stuff which I have. I can't help that you think a shower should be for gift giving only. It's like saying don't plan your own birthday party or christmas party because it's a gift giving celebration and doing it yourself demands people give gifts.

  • imagedragonlayre:
    imageCranang:

    Who let this twit wander on to the board?

    You're beyond help, dragonlayre.  You feel entitled and justified in your rude behavior.  You think that you are owed these gifts because you're going to spit a baby out of your vag.  You're not.
    Celebrate the baby and have people over, but begging them for gifts is just rude.  You're not going to get it, so this is an exercise in futility.  You will be rude and people will talk about you behind your back.  You're ok with that.  But don't come on here and tell us that it's not rude.  You're flat out wrong on this one.  It's not a generational thing, it's not a regional thing.  It's an etiquette thing...and since you don't know what that is, go find another board.

    Wow, I am so glad that you have resorted to name calling and think that is not rude. Also, maybe you should actually read what I have written, I stated that people wanted me to make a registry, not that I begged them for gifts. And who let you on this board? But I am not a rude person and I could care less if people talk about me. Also I stated that if it was a generational thing, why are my parents and my husbands parents demanding that I plan and host my own baby shower? I probably have better etiquette than you since you have resorted to name calling and I have not.  Never once have I said I am owed these gifts because I am having a baby because I am perfectly capable of getting my own stuff which I have. I can't help that you think a shower should be for gift giving only. It's like saying don't plan your own birthday party or christmas party because it's a gift giving celebration and doing it yourself demands people give gifts.

    True story:  I have never once planned a formal or informal birthday party for myself.  The closest I have ever came was when someone said "what are you doing for your birthday?" and I said "Well, H and I are going out to xyz" and they said "Awesome! Can I join you?" and I said "Sure, if you want".

    I seriously can't think of a single adult I know that has planned a formal birthday party for themselves.  Why? BECAUSE IT'S TACKY. 

     

    As far as "if it's wrong, why are my parents harassing me to do it?" I have to say "Maybe it's because they don't know any better".  Ignorance is not an excuse. 

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  • dragonlayre, just because your parents encourage rudeness, that doesn't make it right.  Like BallSox said, Ignorance isn't an excuse.  They seemed to have instilled the same thing in you.

    A Christmas party isn't a gift giving event.  A birthday party for anyone over the age of 18 isn't a gift giving event.  A wedding isn't a gift giving event.  Now people may bring gifts, but they're not expected.  The entire point of a shower is to give someone gifts.  That's IT.  Celebrations are something else.  A BBQ, a "Sip n' See", a "Meet the Baby" party.  Those are events where a gift isn't "required."  But NO ONE goes to a shower without a gift.  Are buying and receiving gifts the only way babies are celebrated?  The baby doesn't care what blanket it's wrapped in.  It doesn't care what diaper it wears.  The party is for the mother--to celebrate her impending motherhood, to give her things to make her life easier.

    Again, you're not going to get it, so you have no place on this board.  All you will add here is bad advice and an endorsement of rude behavior.

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  • imagedragonlayre:

    Wow, I am so glad that you have resorted to name calling and think that is not rude. Also, maybe you should actually read what I have written, I stated that people wanted me to make a registry, not that I begged them for gifts. And who let you on this board? But I am not a rude person and I could care less if people talk about me. Also I stated that if it was a generational thing, why are my parents and my husbands parents demanding that I plan and host my own baby shower? I probably have better etiquette than you since you have resorted to name calling and I have not.  Never once have I said I am owed these gifts because I am having a baby because I am perfectly capable of getting my own stuff which I have. I can't help that you think a shower should be for gift giving only. It's like saying don't plan your own birthday party or christmas party because it's a gift giving celebration and doing it yourself demands people give gifts.

    HAHAHA.  Demanding that you throw your own shower.  Right.  "Hey dragonlayre, I really want to buy a present for you as a new mom.  But I'll only do it if you throw yourself a big party and spend money to get me food."  I'm sure that's exactly how it went down.Confused

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  • I'm planning my own shower, but it's not for selfish reasons. I had no idea it was "bad etiquette" until I started seeing these boards AFTER my shower planning started... and none of my friends said it was rude or anything.

     My reasons for planning my own is basically because I have a few group of friends, and they're from different "cliques." I've got my best friends that have never met my fiance's friends g/f's and wives, etc... so it just made sense for me to be in charge of the invites and situating everything.

     I DO however have 2 friends that are helping me funds-wise and letting me use their house to host it. [Which both of these friends will be getting hostess-gifts from me since they've been a tremendous help].

    I can see why women are choosing to plan their own showers, but if you're choosing to plan it for selfish reasons and throwing around the "My shower, my way" statement... that's just asinine.

    And most of my friends suggested doing a fun diaper raffle... so once again I was shocked to see that's looked down upon apparently, too, lol.

    I'm new to all this, obviously. :) 

  • imageeanmorris:

    I'm planning my own shower, but it's not for selfish reasons. I had no idea it was "bad etiquette" until I started seeing these boards AFTER my shower planning started... and none of my friends said it was rude or anything.

     My reasons for planning my own is basically because I have a few group of friends, and they're from different "cliques." I've got my best friends that have never met my fiance's friends g/f's and wives, etc... so it just made sense for me to be in charge of the invites and situating everything.

    How is this not a "selfish" reason? You want to plan your own shower to avoid awkward interactions between social groups. The thing is, you are all grown ups. You should be able to politely interact, even with other people you (or they) don't know. It's not a valid reason to plan your own shower, and it doesn't make it right, sorry.

  • imageMrsNorry:
    imageeanmorris:

    I'm planning my own shower, but it's not for selfish reasons. I had no idea it was "bad etiquette" until I started seeing these boards AFTER my shower planning started... and none of my friends said it was rude or anything.

     My reasons for planning my own is basically because I have a few group of friends, and they're from different "cliques." I've got my best friends that have never met my fiance's friends g/f's and wives, etc... so it just made sense for me to be in charge of the invites and situating everything.

    How is this not a "selfish" reason? You want to plan your own shower to avoid awkward interactions between social groups. The thing is, you are all grown ups. You should be able to politely interact, even with other people you (or they) don't know. It's not a valid reason to plan your own shower, and it doesn't make it right, sorry.

     I think you misunderstood what I meant. Everyone is being invited, it just seemed easier for me to handle the guest list and pick the date [being that I have friends that have Saturday/Friday commitments, and I'm aware of other anomalies on their schedules]... that's totally selfish of me to plan my shower around my friends' schedules, I suppose. :-

    In reality, those are the only parts I'm planning: the date, the invites, and the guest list.. my other 2 friends are handling the games, food and deco [even though most of the decorations we're doing handmade together].  

     And yes, we are all adults.

    I just see how having a say in the planning can be a good course of action in some situations. You may think it's rude, I think it's efficient. 

  • You're right, you have the one special situation in which the rules don't apply to you.  Congrats!
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  • imageeanmorris:

    you misunderstood what I meant. Everyone is being invited, it just seemed easier for me to handle the guest list and pick the date [being that I have friends that have Saturday/Friday commitments, and I'm aware of other anomalies on their schedules]... that's totally selfish of me to plan my shower around my friends' schedules, I suppose. :-

    In reality, those are the only parts I'm planning: the date, the invites, and the guest list.. my other 2 friends are handling the games, food and deco [even though most of the decorations we're doing handmade together].  

     And yes, we are all adults.

    I just see how having a say in the planning can be a good course of action in some situations. You may think it's rude, I think it's efficient. 

    Okay, but you didn't specify that you "have a say" in the planning. You said you are planning your own shower. Those are two very different things.

    I, too, had a say in the date/time of my shower, and I gave my MIL (the HOSTESS) a guest list. She planned and took care of the rest. THAT'S having a say, not planning your own shower. 

  • Those ideas are just ones I saw on another board. I wasn't trying to start anything, just give ideas. I said instead of gifts to her possibly have donations to a center for families in need and just have a party to celebrate. Besides no matter what we say here, people are going to do what they want. 
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