TTC after 35

SA results are in..can you help me interpret them?

So I just got the email results and most looks like it's in the normal range according to the standard listed next to each result. The 1st number is Dh's the 2nd number is the "standard" range.  I am a little worried about the "progressively motile" result.

Semen Volume                                         2.5                          >1.9

Spermatozoa Normal %                           31                           >29

WBC count                                               <1                           <=1

Sperm Count                                            22.3                          >19

Spermatozoa immotile                             27         

Nonprogressively motile % SEM FLD      17

Sperm Slow Progressive %                     28

Sperm Rapid Progressive %                    28

Sperm Progressively Motile                      31                         >59 mill/spec

 

Can anyone give me a reason not to worry?  

 

Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image

Re: SA results are in..can you help me interpret them?

  • To be clear, Dh's numbers are the ones to the right of the category.  Some of the standards ended up below some of the categories because I had too many spaces in between.
    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
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  • Also,  Dh was supposed to have a Kruger test along with the regular SA.  Does it look like those results are also in this group?  I thought it would show up separately but so far only one test result, although it does say COMPLETE SA.  

    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
  • Kruger is the criteria of the standards (vs. WHO standards), so I think the results are complete.

    I'm very rusty on MFI issues, but these results look OK. The overall count is on the low side of normal, which is probably why the last number of progressively motile (mill/spec) is low. However, the total motile is 56% which is good, and I believe normal. It's just that 56% of 22.3 million is on the lower end of things. It would be enough for an IUI at my old clinic, though. Also, 31% normal (I assume that's morphology) is good. I'd be curious whether your RE wants another SA done. Numbers can change a lot.

    Good for him for finally getting it done!

    TTC #1 since June 2010
    Me: 36, DH: 42
    Dx: DOR and MFI

    DH: low count + very low motility; hormones all normal; Sperm DNA Frag. test = poor to fair; male karyotyping normal
    Me: FSH 13.4 + AMH 0.26 + hypothyroidism; Scratch the hypothyrodism (?); Blood clotting and immune panel all negative; endometrial biopsy normal

    IVF #1 (MDLF - Jul/Aug 2011): BFN (9R, 5M, 3F with ICSI, 3dt of 1 10-cell grade 2, no frosties)
    IVF #2 (EP-antagonist - Sep/Oct 2011): BFN (6R, 4M, 3F w/ ICSI, 3dt of 1 6-cell, 1 7-cell, grade 4s, no frosties)
    DE IVF #1 (shared cycle - June 2012): c/p (6R, 6F w/ICSI, 3dt 1 8-cell grade A- and 1 7-cell grade A-; no frosties)
    DE IVF #2 (shared cycle with new donor - Nov/Dec/ 2012): - BFP!!!!! 12/14/12. U/S on 12/27 shows twins!!!!!

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  • imagemtlaurel:

    Kruger is the criteria of the standards (vs. WHO standards), so I think the results are complete.

    I'm very rusty on MFI issues, but these results look OK. The overall count is on the low side of normal, which is probably why the last number of progressively motile (mill/spec) is low. However, the total motile is 56% which is good, and I believe normal. It's just that 56% of 22.3 million is on the lower end of things. It would be enough for an IUI at my old clinic, though. Also, 31% normal (I assume that's morphology) is good. I'd be curious whether your RE wants another SA done. Numbers can change a lot.

    Good for him for finally getting it done!

     

    Glad to know that his results are not terrible..but it is still making me wonder if he is the problem and if so what we can do to fix it.  Of course my RE said not to worry about getting the results til we meet again in at least a month.  UGH.

    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
  • My nurse was helpful in explaining it this way: 56% of 22.3 million is still over 11 million sperm. That's a ton of little dudes heading toward your egg. Even if half of them go the wrong way, you've got 5.5 million going toward the actual egg-- every time DH and you BD. Those 5.5 million are going to be hanging around for 24-72 hours, so after 3 days of BDing, you'll have over 15 million sperm going after your egg.

    Them's some good odds!

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  • imagedanieleandwayne:

    My nurse was helpful in explaining it this way: 56% of 22.3 million is still over 11 million sperm. That's a ton of little dudes heading toward your egg. Even if half of them go the wrong way, you've got 5.5 million going toward the actual egg-- every time DH and you BD. Those 5.5 million are going to be hanging around for 24-72 hours, so after 3 days of BDing, you'll have over 15 million sperm going after your egg.

    Them's some good odds!

    Yes that IS a good way to look at it!  And the 56% that you speak of is just adding the two 28's, right?

    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
  • imagemtlaurel:

    Kruger is the criteria of the standards (vs. WHO standards), so I think the results are complete.

    I'm very rusty on MFI issues, but these results look OK. The overall count is on the low side of normal, which is probably why the last number of progressively motile (mill/spec) is low. However, the total motile is 56% which is good, and I believe normal. It's just that 56% of 22.3 million is on the lower end of things. It would be enough for an IUI at my old clinic, though. Also, 31% normal (I assume that's morphology) is good. I'd be curious whether your RE wants another SA done. Numbers can change a lot.

    Good for him for finally getting it done!

    This. The count can increase by changing around how often you BD and how long you wait before you give a sample too. Maybe your RE would discuss over the phone?

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  • I was trying to compare your dh's numbers against my dh's.  Our doctor has slightly different parameters and terminology.  Did your doctor at least write a note saying 'below parameters' or 'entirely normal' for overall analysis?  Mine did and it made me feel better even if I did not understand all of the criteria.  Did yours list the number of head, neck or tail defects?  Ours did but it doesn't have parameters so I'm not sure what counts as too many.
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  • imageSnapdragon333:
    I was trying to compare your dh's numbers against my dh's.  Our doctor has slightly different parameters and terminology.  Did your doctor at least write a note saying 'below parameters' or 'entirely normal' for overall analysis?  Mine did and it made me feel better even if I did not understand all of the criteria.  Did yours list the number of head, neck or tail defects?  Ours did but it doesn't have parameters so I'm not sure what counts as too many.

    The only thing I know is what I put in my original post.  It is all so confusing!  I did email my RE..hoping she will just send a quick message letting me know all is well.

    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
  • No help here but just wanted to say it is so nice to see you and YH moving things along! Great first steps!

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    Met with RE 4/11. 2 IUI's BFN. DE best option. Switched clinics to do "shared" program. Had to retake all tests and a mamm that put me behind and then on a DE waiting list for 12 months. Picked a donor!! (10/13/13) Got matched. Estimated transfer in December. After 2.5 years of patiently waiting I will finally cycle....can hardly believe it. DE cycle got cancelled. One of her tests came back positive.  Waiting for another donor. Donor picked!! (1/18/14)

    DE IVF #1 (4/26) BFN  DE FET #1 (6/4) BFP! Beta 1=339 Beta 2=852 Beta 3=9957 EDD 2/22/15!!


     

     

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  • I know the minimum requirements to be...

    Volume 2-5

    Count at least 20 million

    Motility more than 63

    Morphology more than 30

    Did he have any clumping issues?

    My husband's reproductive urologist recommended L-Carnitine 500mg 2x/day plus other vitamins like a multi, coq10. He took it for 3 months and his next SA was vastly improved. 

     

     

  • imagePPL2011:

    I know the minimum requirements to be...

    Volume 2-5

    Count at least 20 million

    Motility more than 63

    Morphology more than 30

    Did he have any clumping issues?

    My husband's reproductive urologist recommended L-Carnitine 500mg 2x/day plus other vitamins like a multi, coq10. He took it for 3 months and his next SA was vastly improved. 

     

    I have no idea.  I still have not heard from my RE regarding the results.  Also I believe that they did not do the Kruger test (that was ordered and that I paid for!) because there is nothing on the report regarding shape, etc and that test is all about that kind of stuff from what I have been told.  Also since there were 2 separate test orders I expected to get 2 separate test results...which I did not..
    Me: 40 Dh: 41, TTC since August 2009, began Acupuncture and Herbs Sept 2011, began Temping and Charting Nov 2011. image
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