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To freeze or not to freeze? What did you decide IVF?

IVF ladies-

Did you decide to freeze or not freeze after your initial round?

What made you make this decision?

We are undecided on what to do....

IVF round 1 scheduled for 3 weeks from today :)

 

TTC since October 2011 Diagnosed with IF April 2012 IVF #1 August 2012 Positive Beta- August 28, 2012 :)BabyFruit Ticker

Re: To freeze or not to freeze? What did you decide IVF?

  • AmCheriAmCheri member
    None of our embies made it to freeze so it turned out to be a non-issue. Given everything we've been through to date, we would choose freezing without a doubt.  
    Baby girl Lila born 2013.
    Baby boy Henry born 2015.
    Expecting our capstone baby (boy) early March 2018.
  • BzeetyDBzeetyD member

    Don't want to burst your bubble but it is rarer to have embryos to freeze than one thinks. Only 25% of IVFs at my clinic have any to freeze.

    So, if you have them, freeze them.  It is rare gift that many do not have.

    BzeetyD = 38, Mr. BzeetyD = 44 together 12/02 married 9/08
    TTC #1 since 1/10
    DX: Unexplained/??? MFI issues

    Our lil' lost sparks:
    5w3d loss 7/30/10 - EDD March 2011
    8w loss 4/15/11 - EDD November 2011
    8w3d loss 8/2/12 - EDD March 2013
    4w c/p loss 10/29/12 - EDD July 2013

    Long story: trying on our own + testing testing testing with 6 rounds of Clomid, more testing, injectables + TI, laparoscopy - one tube blocked, 2 IUIs with Follistim...BFNs.
    RPL testing all normal, Karyotyping normal

    Moving on to IVF.

    IVF #1 April 2012 = BFN, IVF #2 June 2012 = BFP. U/S 7/23 = saw heartbeat but measuring behind. Follow up U/S on 7/30 - no heartbeat. D&C 8/2. Trisomy 12. IVF #3 Oct 2012 = Chemical Pregnancy

    Phone consult with CCRM on 12/12/12 - ODWU 1/4/13 - both tubes clear(!) - AFC 24, AMH 3.2, FSH 9.6, LH 5.4, E2 25. DH has high frag rate but improved!
    IVF #4 March 2013 CCRM. EP protocol w/ Menopur, Gonal-F & Dexamethasone. ER 3/29 & IMSI, PICSI. 43R 13M 10F 6blasts bio'd. CCS testing reveals 3 normals!!!
    FET 5/31/13 of 1 4AA blast - thawed and expanded. 4dp5dt BFP.
    Beta 9dp5dt = 181, 11dp5dt = 427. 1st u/s showed a healthy heartbeat! EDD 2/16/14

    After 4 years of hoping and heartbreak, our sweet little bean was born on 2/19/14
    We are so in love with her.

    "I'm not telling you it's going to be easy, I'm telling you it's going to be worth it."

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  • Thank you ladies-

    Trying to figure this out - so overwhelming....

     :)  

    TTC since October 2011 Diagnosed with IF April 2012 IVF #1 August 2012 Positive Beta- August 28, 2012 :)BabyFruit Ticker
  • I would definitely suggest freezing if you have that option. If you do a fresh cycle doesn't work out and you have frozen embies, it's also cheaper doing a frozen cycle and less stress on your body.

    Good luck! 

    IVF #1 w/ ICSI: ER 3/12 18 eggs retrieved 12 eggs fertilized; ET 3/17 1 transferred 3 frozen- BFN

    IVF #2 w/ ICSI: ER 5/8 9 eggs retrieved 8 eggs fertilized; ET 5/13 2 transferred 1 frozen; BETA #1: 1,197; U/S scheduled for 6/11-TWINS!

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  • Freeze without a doubt.


    04/07/11- PCOS Diagnosis w/GYN. Put on Metformin (1500 mgs)
    04/25/11- 1st consultation with RE (Confirmed PCOS & Anovulation)
    05/09/11-HSG-All clear! 05/13/11-SA-Normal. Found out on 2/14/12, low Morph (1%).
    06/17/11-10 days of Clomid (100, 150) No response.
    07/10/11-03/20/12- 5 Injectable (Follistim) IUI cycles; 4 BFN, 1 C/P. (stims ranged from 11 days to 25 days)
    05/28/12-Diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. 75 mcg Synthroid.

    IVF with ICSI in June/July 2013 = BFP!. Beta # 1 = 123. Beta # 2 = 252. Due March 25th. Baby boy arrived March 27, 2013!

    FET #1 - 10/4/14 = BFP!! Beta #1 = 179. Beta # 2 = 499. Due June 22nd.

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  • mnj05mnj05 member
    If we have any make it that far, we are freezing. There's no doubt in our minds about that.

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    TTC #1 since 3/2011
    DX: anovulatory and severe MFI
    DH is a testicular cancer survivor
    IVF#1 w/ICSI lupron, gonal f, ovidrel
    ER 6/15/12 6R 6M 6F! ET 6/20/12
    Beta #1: 154 Beta #2: 509 Beta #3: 7326
    Baby Boy born 3/1/2013
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    TTC#2: 6/2014 all testing came back normal

    IVF#2 (#1 for LO#2) 9/2014 - 17R 10M 10F 4 blasts frozen on day 6.

    FET #1 10/15/14 - Beta #1: 216  Beta #2: 823


    Baby Boy born 7/10/2015


  • I'm truly not trying to be snarky, but I don't really get your question...

    First, don't assume you will have anything to freeze. It's an added bonus, but not the norm. Try to celebrate each and every step, because unfortunately there are plenty of things that can go awry and it's a big disappointment if you assume you'll have thing to freeze and then don't.

    If you have the ability to freeze things then why wouldn't you? To go through all of this and discard embryos seems a bit daft. Many ladies unfortunately aren't a "one an done" scenario either, so having good quality and multiple chances is in your best interest. It's cheaper to pay for cryo then it is to do another fresh IVF anyway. 

    Some people don't have the option due to OHSS or other issues and need to freeze things while their bodies are on the mend or timing works out, but fresh cycles have a higher success rate. 

    Best of luck! 

    (Live in Europe) TTC since 1/2010
  • Freeze you spent a fortune for those embies
    6 m/c
    Anovulatory cycles, increased Synthroid Diagnosed Sep 2010
    Natural cycle Dec 2010 BFP M/C 6 1/2 Weeks, D&E Jan 2011
    1 Clomid/Ovidrel BFN May 2011
    Natural cycle Aug 2011 BFP M/C 4 Weeks
    1 IUI Sept 2011 BFP M/c 7 weeks
    Provera Dec 2011 BFP M/C 3 Weeks
    DQ ALPHA HLA MATCH, High NK Cells Diagnosed Dec 2011
    IVF March 2012 BFP m/c 4weeks 5 days (IL, Prednisone)
    IVF#2w/DS July 2012 MEGA FAILURE BFN (IL, Dexamethasone)
    Diagnosed No real HLA Match, DQ Beta Triad, High TNF, Low NK Cells
    Oct 2012 Natural Cycle m/c 4wks (Lovenox, Prednisone) 
    Went to Beer Center- high tnf, low lad, implantation failure
    Nov/Dec 2012 LIT Treatment
    Dec 12 Humira
    Jan 2013 BFP
    Humira,LIT,Prednisone, Lovenox, IVIG, Baby Aspirin
    Miracle Born August 2013 Premature

    Yours doesn't have to be a sad story



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  • If you are lucky enough to have embryos to freeze, it would unusual to not do so.

    However, if you have religious/philosophical objections, and you are so lucky, you'll have to make the tough decision whether your value system is flexible enough to be compatible with freezing. The difference between a fresh and frozen cycle to the health of your body and your bank account is pretty dramatic.

    Good luck with your decision. 

  • We plan to freeze any that make it to that point.
    Married 6/08, TTC 7/09
    MC w/ D&C 3/11 ~ 9.5 weeks
    CP/MC 1/12 ~ 5 weeks
    2 IUI's w/ BFN
    IVF 6/12 ~ 8R, 0F ~ Rescue ISCI gave us 3dt of 2 (6 cell, 9+ cell)
    DS born ~ 3/3/13
    IVF 6/14 ~ Operation Sibling ~ 10R, 5F ~ 5dt of 1 Blast
    Beta 1: 1600+, Beta 2: 4588
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  • AmCheriAmCheri member
    imageannalisel:

    However, if you have religious/philosophical objections, and you are so lucky, you'll have to make the tough decision whether your value system is flexible enough to be compatible with freezing.

    It's on this point that I understand the OP.  When we started down the IVF road, we struggled with multiple aspects of it.  Many of those concerns were never realized. And as for those concerns which have been an issue, I'll freely admit that our perspectives have changed to accommodate the circumstances. It's a dynamic process and you'll find your thoughts evolving the deeper into it you go.   If this wasn't the intention of the OP, I apologize for going astray.  

    Baby girl Lila born 2013.
    Baby boy Henry born 2015.
    Expecting our capstone baby (boy) early March 2018.
  • I am honestly asking because I am clueless- came home with all kinds of paperwork to sign - to freeze etc.

    Just so many decisions to make - was just reaching out to see what others have done. Was just seeking some insight on one of the MANY decisions we have to make in 3 weeks time...

    Thank you :) 

    TTC since October 2011 Diagnosed with IF April 2012 IVF #1 August 2012 Positive Beta- August 28, 2012 :)BabyFruit Ticker
  • Thank you ladies for helping and offering supportive answers.

    Just overwhelmed and appreciate hearing feedback/advice from all of you. I am not assuming in any way that we will have anything to freeze.

    Thank you for your answers and input!  :) 

    TTC since October 2011 Diagnosed with IF April 2012 IVF #1 August 2012 Positive Beta- August 28, 2012 :)BabyFruit Ticker
  • AmCheriAmCheri member
    imagesunshinebride07:

    I am honestly asking because I am clueless- came home with all kinds of paperwork to sign - to freeze etc.

    Just so many decisions to make - was just reaching out to see what others have done. Was just seeking some insight on one of the MANY decisions we have to make in 3 weeks time...

    Thank you :) 

    Gotcha. My advice to you is to not get too worked about these issues unless you're immediately faced with them.  Take it one step at a time and the process will be more manageable. GL! 

    Baby girl Lila born 2013.
    Baby boy Henry born 2015.
    Expecting our capstone baby (boy) early March 2018.
  • We are still on the fence about it as well. So I understand your wanting insight. This stuff is super hard to navigate! I think we are leaning towards freezing if we can because FET cycles are cheaper.
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  • There really is no reason not to freeze. Some clinics only freeze high quality blastocysts, in which case you're lucky to have some to freeze. This was the case with us, and we had 3 to freeze, which we thought was great to give us some siblings.

    Our cycle didn't work, so we could save the $, time, and energy to do a FET, but for a variety of reasons we are doing another fresh. We are still saving our frosties for siblings. Even if you aren't planning on siblings, having frozen as backup in case of a failed cycle is smart.

    Some clinics will freeze at earlier stages, so many patients have some to freeze. That is something that you'll want to know their policy on.

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  • wouldn't think of not freezing extra embies.  Our clinic holds them free of charge for a year and my FET went MUCH better than my fresh cycle (though both ending in a m/c)
    TTC #1 Since 4/2010, Cycle 30
    Positive for HLA-B27, I'm a mutant :p
    Testing - Me ok, gluten issue? DH - borderline count, low motility
    4/28/11 IUI#1 = BFP!(5/25), EDD 2/2/12 - m/c 5w3d
    7/3, 7/31, 9/25 - IUI#2-4=BFN
    IVF#1 - 1 blast = BFP!! (12/30), EDD 9/9/12, confirmed c/p 4w2d
    FET#1 3/2/12 - 2 blasts =BFP!! EDD 11/18/12, us#1 = twins! Confirmed m/c 5w6d
    4/20-surprise BFP and another c/p 4w2d
    FET#2 7/16/12 - 2 blasts = BFN
    FET#3 8/20/12 - 1 blast - BFP!! Beta #1-2=177, 354
    1st u/s 5w6d, one beautiful little HB :), 2nd u/s 146bpm
    baby girl born 5/10/13

    TTC#2 since 12/17/2014, Cycle 8
    Repeat Testing...FSH=12, AMH=3.8, AFC=28. 
    IUI#5 5/10/15- c/p?
    IVF#2 8/19/15 - cancelled due to cysts
    IVF#2 take two 10/2015 - 5 blasts frozen
    FET#4 12/11/2015 - BFN - 4 blasts remaining
    FET#5 2/18/16 - BFP!!!  Beta1-3, 126, 250, 745!!

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  • Thanks again ladies: )

    I know many of you think this is a "dumb" question but I need to stress that we are so new to this and have many many "dumb" questions I am sure!

    Learning as we go and hoping for positive results!!!

    Sue :) 

    TTC since October 2011 Diagnosed with IF April 2012 IVF #1 August 2012 Positive Beta- August 28, 2012 :)BabyFruit Ticker
  • We froze.  After IVF 1 didn't work we transferred the frozen embryos before we started another cycle.  We just did another fresh cycle of IVF and froze 5.  We will probably do another fresh cycle before using the frozen ones due to our insurance coverage lapsing on us after Sept.  We pay OOP for transfers but save our coverage for fresh cycles.

    We had the option of donation for the frozen embryos if we didn't end up using them and we decided not to do that.  We haven't had any we didn't use yet, so not sure what will do when/if that time comes.

    ~ Me, 30 DH, 32 ~ TTC since Oct 2009 septum resection 3/2010 stage IV endo 8/2011 IVF #1 1/25/12, 2 transferred, 2 frozen - BFN FET 2/22/12, 2 transferred - BFN IVF#2 5/12, transferred 3, froze 5, BFP! Beta 1: 151, Beta 2: 282 Cerclage placed @ 17 weeks due to shortening cervix, modified bed rest until delivery SAIF/PAIF always welcome image It's a girl! ~ Clare was born 1/31/13
  • Freeze.  For use in the future.  
  • We signed consents to freeze but I am donating 1/2 my eggs so I doubt we will have any left over. It would be a nice surprise if we do.

    Our deciding factors were not wanting to have to go through another fresh cycle again if we didn't have to, lower price for frozen cycle, and the chance to have another baby if this cycle does in fact work without having to go through this whole process again.

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  • I could not do a fresh transfer and was lucky to have 6 to freeze. I can tell you one thing for certain?if I do not have to go through the retrieval process ever again I will be the happiest girl in the world. For me it is not only the cost to do another cycle, but I was soooo sick and uncomfortable that I do not want to put my body through that again?unless I have to. 

    What is weighing your decision of not freezing any extra embryos?  

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    3.19.12 IVF #1 - Stims (Lupron + Gonal F + Luveris)
    3.29 ER - 6 snowbabies (ET postponed due to OHSS)
    FET 6/6 - transferred two 4AB snowbabies
    Beta #1 6/16 = 683, Beta #2 6/18 = 1703, Beta #3 6/20 = 4073, u/s #1 @ 5wks = TWINS!!, 7w u/s two heartbeats <3<3 TWIN BOYS<br>

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  • I really struggled with the decison to do IVF (thank you Cathlic Church) but the decision to freeze for me was easy.  I see them as the start to life and could never throw away. Plus it's so much easier to do FET if given the oppurtunity.  We were lucky to have some to freeze on our second try.  I'm hoping to do FET now for when we TTC#2 or if God forbid something happens with this current one.
    TTC since 2008, our little miracle arrived July 2013!



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    We signed consents to freeze but I am donating 1/2 my eggs so I doubt we will have any left over. It would be a nice surprise if we do.

    Our deciding factors were not wanting to have to go through another fresh cycle again if we didn't have to, lower price for frozen cycle, and the chance to have another baby if this cycle does in fact work without having to go through this whole process again.

  • imageBOTB32010:

    We signed consents to freeze but I am donating 1/2 my eggs so I doubt we will have any left over. It would be a nice surprise if we do.

    Our deciding factors were not wanting to have to go through another fresh cycle again if we didn't have to, lower price for frozen cycle, and the chance to have another baby if this cycle does in fact work without having to go through this whole process again.

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