So we see those threads "what crappy stuff have people said after your loss?" but I'm blogging on Fridays about friends and family, and want to have positive stuff too!
So what are the things that people have said or done that have been great for you through your time of loss?
Re: Poll: what has someone said that has actually helped?
I'm going to copy and paste from a message I received from a friend of mine after I told her about my second loss. I loved her words and I loved that she didn't try to make it better than it was. Here it is:
I still feel like it takes everything I have not to show frustration or anger when people try using "its all for the best" or "it will happen when it happens" as a means of comforting me, so I can imagine how you must be feeling this weekend. I found, at times, profanity helps somewhat; so f**k!!!
I truly believe that however and whenever it does happen, you and Dan will make amazing parents, and you truly deserve that opportunity.
BFP #1 07/04/10. EDD 03/14/11. Missed m/c 08/09/10. D&C 09/27/10. }Casey & Jaimie{
TTA for 18 months and then TTC for 12 months
TTA for 7 months
Jan-Mar 2014 - RPL, SHG, karotyping: all results normal
TTC Again May 2014
Progesterone & baby aspirin combo for 5 cycles - All BFN's
SA with DNA fragmentation = Perfect results
Diagnostic cycle monitoring = Polycystic ovaries leading to premature egg release
TTA Oct 2014 - Jan 2015
Jan 2015 - Medicated cycle with timed intercourse
My Blog: The Canadian Housewife PGAL/PAL Welcome My Chart
From my OB: "The most important thing for you to know is, this was in NO way your fault."
From my FIL: "I'm so sorry about your bad news!" (He then gives me a big hug. I know this isn't exactly profound, but it beat the hell out of the bullsh!t other family members were saying)
From my BFF: "Sometimes bad stuff just happens. It's not because you're supposed to learn from it, nor was it meant to be. It just happens, sadly."
From my DH: "I know it is horrible and there's no reason for it whatsoever. But just look at us now and how commited we are to having a family. It's like it launched us into another dimension."
Edit: wording, grammar, spelling
My best friend said: "Damn it!! This sucks and I am so sorry. I love you and am here for you if you need me." that was probably the best thing anyone had said so far.
My other friend sent me text messages every day just telling me she was thinking of me and was here was I was ready to talk.
It really helped to know that there were people who were there for me when I was ready to talk.
type 1 diabetic for 7 years. Been on the pump for 6 years.
This is so sweet.
After my M/C, my MIL sent me a card that basically said they were very sorry for what happened, and they were also very sad too...it was nice to know that someone else besides DH and I felt as if they lost something important too.
Cycle 9: BFP 5-3-12:EDD 1-24-13 It's a girl! Born 12-27-12
Hardly any family ever even acknowledged my first loss. But one of my brothers said something that was so beautiful to me. I wish I could remember it exactly, he articulated it so well. But basically he just acknowledged it, told me how sorry he was, how sad he was that he wouldn't get to meet his niece or nephew. And reminded me that one day all the heartache I was feeling would be worth it. The thing is he has Aspergers Syndrome so showing emotion is so foreign to him that I never expected him to say anything about it at all And he'd have been the only person in the world that I wouldn't have been upset with for ignoring it. Instead he was the only person in the world who got it.
In typical Aspergers fashion...when I had my ectopic, this same brother walked up in the middle of the room full of strangers and blurted out, "I'm sorry for what happened to you.". And then he walked away in the opposite direction. It was humorous because it was such an inappropriate moment to say anything and everyone was staring at us both.
I'm sure they were wondering WHAT happened to me! And he said it so seriously that I'm sure they thought he was threatening me or something! He's so funny!
The thing is I never expected anything poetic from anyone. A simple I'm sorry would have done wonders for me. A simple hug or a shoulder to cry on. People just don't need to try so hard...the harder they try the stupider they become!
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BFP #1: 12/2009 m/c 1/2010 BFP #2: 6/2010 m/c 8/2010
BFP #3: 10/2011 ectopic 11/2011 (right tube removed, learned left tube was probably nonfunctional due to scar tissue from infection after m/c)
3 failed IUIs, IVF #1: 18R, 12M, 10F, 3 poor quality 5d embryos transferred= BFP #4!!!!!
Betas: 9dp5dt: 64 ~14dp5dt: 91 (expecting miscarriage, doubling time of 236 hours) ~16dp5dt: 200~18dp5dt: 500
First Ultrasound at 6w2d revealed two sacs, only one with a heartbeat
LK arrived after 42 weeks on August 14, 2013! Beautiful, healthy, and happy!
TTC#2: IVF booked for April 2015
Surprise BFP#5 February 19, 2015 EDD: November 2, 2015
Betas: 10dpo: 10, 14dpo: 77, 17dpo: 270
First Ultrasound at 5w1d showed a miracle UTE baby! And right ovary ovulation to left fallopian tube.
JD arrived at 38 weeks on October 20, 2015.
TTC #3: Since October 2017. BFP #6 July 2, 2018 EDD: March 16, 2019 [/spoiler]
This. You worded that so well.
BFP #1 07/04/10. EDD 03/14/11. Missed m/c 08/09/10. D&C 09/27/10. }Casey & Jaimie{
TTA for 18 months and then TTC for 12 months
TTA for 7 months
Jan-Mar 2014 - RPL, SHG, karotyping: all results normal
TTC Again May 2014
Progesterone & baby aspirin combo for 5 cycles - All BFN's
SA with DNA fragmentation = Perfect results
Diagnostic cycle monitoring = Polycystic ovaries leading to premature egg release
TTA Oct 2014 - Jan 2015
Jan 2015 - Medicated cycle with timed intercourse
My Blog: The Canadian Housewife PGAL/PAL Welcome My Chart
I think my therapist is #1 on my list for being most helpful. She has given me the following advice/words of wisdom over the last 8 months since my first loss:
BFP #2, 12/12/11, m/c 12/25/11
BFP #3, 3/09/12, CP 3/10/12
BFP #4, 7/22/12, DD#2 born 4/2013
So true!
From my friend "I don't even know what to say except holy sh*t that f*ing sucks. I'm so sorry, i need to hug you so i'm coming over tonight" - followed by her coming over with lots of wine and soft cheeses.
My other friend was super helpful although there were no profound words specifically. We just talked a lot and she never said a stupid thing once. She texted me every day and still is just to see how I am doing and that meant so much! Nobody else did that they just ignored it by the next week...which is terrible!
"Don't you wish you could punch God in the face sometimes?" - Friend
It absolutely captured how I was feeling and it really made me laugh.
♥BFP #1 "Spawn"- 02/23/11 | EDD: 11/01/11 | natural m/c 03/20/11 @7w5d♥
♥BFP #2 "Offspring"- 11/10/12 | EDD: 07/25/13 | incomplete m/c 12/14/12 @8w1d | D&C 12/21/12♥
♥BFP #3 "Progeny" - 02/16/15 | It's a BOY!! | EDD: 10/17/15 | BD: 10/23/15♥
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I work with one specific guy on a daily basis whose wife has suffered early mc.
We were talking about pg one day (before DH and I were even trying) and he said to me "No one ever tells you how unfortunately common it is to lose a pg. I am not saying it will happen to you, and hope to God that it never happens to you. I am just telling you this because we were not prepared. No one ever talks about the bad stuff until it happens."
A few months later when we lost our LO he told me how sorry he was and that he knows exactly how we feel. He did a stellar job covering for me when I took a week of after my D&C.
To this day he is one of the few people in my life that checks up on me to see how DH and I are doing.
All of this was so comforting because I knew that he truly knows how DH and I felt.
This made me cry! What a beautiful thing your brother said to you, even the second/ill timed comment. Sometimes the people that we least expect if from, help the most.
I think the most helpful person for me has been one of my co-workers. She left a message on my voicemail while I was being induced in the hospital, just simply saying that she was thinking about us and not to worry about anything but ourselves. Then, when I returned to work, she hugged me and say "screw it, you just have to survive, nothing else matters." She was telling me not to care about anyone else or anything else, but to focus on myself and making it through minute by minute. She still hugs me every week and asks me how I'm doing. She has never said anything stupid, like so many others, and is always so caring.
TTC since 11/2009; Lap/HSG/Hysteroscopy: 5/2011 (endometriosis - removed; endocervical polyp - removed; high pressure in bilateral tubes - cleared)
BFP #1: 8/4/11; DS1 born sleeping on 11/16/11 at 19w1d
BFP # 2: 5/7/12, EDD 1/10/13, DS2 born 1/4/13
BFP # 3: 11/8/13, EDD 7/17/14, mmc 10wks
BFP # 4: 5/16/14, EDD 1/15/15, praying for our 2nd rainbow baby
My mom (who is not the nurturing type at all) has said the things that helped me most. When I told her about my m/c she explained to me why she was never able to biologically have children (my brother and I were both adopted). She never had a m/c but she never was able to get pregnant in the first place so she has been able to relate to all of the "you're not a mom" comments. It has been amazing to have her finally open up to me about the biggest struggle of her life and it helps to have someone who understands that the comments hurt.
Other than that I like when people say something as simple as, "I can't imagine what you are going through right now".
1/12/13 DD was born
4/9/16 DS was born
9/17 CP
6/23/18 BFP EDD 3/4/19
My aunt, who suffered a full-term stillbirth in 1980 and the loss of her 6-year-old son in a tragic accident in 1992, sent me a letter. I've only read it once because I don't want to cry like that ever again, but some of the words are burned in my memory:
Welcome to the wonderful club of motherhood. Those two precious babies impacted your lives in so many ways. Thank you for sharing them with us. Just remember, they're the only ones who know what your heart sounds like from inside - what a gift! You will never forget and neither will I. Know that I hurt for you and with you. I know this pain and our Lord will deliver you.
There were 2 really powerful statements for me - acknowledging that I'm a mother and that she promises not to forget. We're not that close, so we haven't spoken since that letter, but it is so special to me.
Stick, baby, Stick!
Beta #1 (12dpo): 38.3; Beta #2 (15dpo): 202.7
Baby Girl born 1/17/13
Remembering Robby
This made me teary.
BFP#1 11/12/11 ~ No heartbeat 12/12/11 ~ D&C 12/19/11
BFP#2 3/25/12 ~ Heartbeat 141 4/16/12 ~ No heartbeat 4/25/12 ~ D&C 04/30/12
BFP#3 7/16/12 ~ EDD 3/26/13 ~ It's a BOY ~ DOB 2/26/13
My 60 year-old male boss, after my second loss: I won't even say I understand, because I don't. I have suffered great loss, though, so I can try to relate on some level. (His brother died unexpectedly in his 30s.) It's just...it's f***ed-up, and it's not fair.
I loved that he clearly had no idea what to say--but he tried anyway. His condolence wasn't eloquent, but I knew he cared.
Also, a co-worker told me that she hopes I can try to focus on all that I do have--a wonderful husband and hundreds of people who love us both--rather than on what I lost. When she first said it, I was taken aback by her unwarranted advice. As time went on, though, I realized she's right. Of course I'll always "focus on" my babies, but I do have a lot. I'm blessed, despite all the sh!t that's been thrown at me, and I shouldn't lose sight of that.
Oh, God. Waterworks over here.
More waterworks over here!
TTC Since Summer 2011
BFP #1 11/5/11 EDD 7/22/12 MC 11/14/11
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Sorry - didn't mean to make y'all cry! But, I bawled as I read it (about 2 weeks after my loss) and cried as I was typing it. This all sucks! Even the good stuff!
Stick, baby, Stick!
Beta #1 (12dpo): 38.3; Beta #2 (15dpo): 202.7
Baby Girl born 1/17/13
Wow thanks ladies!!! I really appreciate it!!!
I hope you don't mind, I featured that quote on my blogI am seriously boo-hooing through this whole thread over here.
One thing that stood out to me that someone said was, "I know you're really tired of hearing about how 'God has a plan,' but I just want to let you know that God will MAKE a plan."
It's also amazing how far a little "How are you doing?" months after the fact can go.
ETA: My dad also said, "I will do anything to take your pain away."
My Blog: One Emerald
BFP#1: 9-13-11 EDD: 5-26-12 MMC: 11-4-11 D&C: 11-8-11
BFP#2: 7-6-12 Elizabeth Faye ("Zuzu") born 3-21-13
Oh yeah. Glad DH can't see my face right now. I'm just trying to cover up the sniffles and think about things like what I'm going to make for dinner...
BFP1: DD1 born April 2011 at 34w1d via unplanned c/s due to HELLP, DVT 1 week PP
BFP3: DD2 born Feb 2013 at 38w4d via unplanned RCS due to uterine dehiscence
This is perfect.
The most meaningful comments people have made are not necessarily about the words, but the delivery. Those who can make eye contact, tell you they are truly sorry for what has happened, honestly ask, "how are you doing?", or say, "I'm thinking about you." That's all it takes.
Honestly, sometimes even the wrong thing is better than nothing at all. When someone you thought was close to you says absolutely nothing to acknowledge your pain and your loss--IMO, that's the worst.