So, Selfie

ASmallWonder

She wrote that she had decided (and I guess her doctor too) that her daughter was waking up so often and screaming all the time due to reflux.  Ok.  But then she says that when she brought Alexis in to bed with her, it cured the reflux.  Yeeeah.  Reflux is a physiological issue.  My money is on the baby never having had reflux in the first place but rather needed to feel close to mom and dad.  Do you think bedsharing can CURE ailments that truly exist?  

NativeNyer

No.  I bedshared once with my DS who suffered from reflux until he was about 11 months.  He threw up all over my side of the bed.

wife1014

jinx.  I just wrote this post.  LOL

NO, the kid probably doesn't have reflux.  It's the 4th trimester.  She is fun.

adoubleu12

ZOMG Gripe Water!?  Her baby will definitely have the gey now.

gisa886

adoubleu12:

ZOMG Gripe Water!?  Her baby will definitely have the gey now.

I nearly died of laughter when I read the gripe water part. I don't know how the flora of my daughter's intestines survived!

aforst

wife1014:

jinx.  I just wrote this post.  LOL

NO, the kid probably doesn't have reflux.  It's the 4th trimester.  She is fun.

I lol'd at that one too.  From now on, I'm going to refer to my son's age in trimesters.

So, from conception to birth was 39.1 weeks. He's 16 months old= 69.5699426 weeks.  Pregnancy + 16 months= 108.6699426 weeks.  Assuming 1 trimester is 13.3 weeks, that is going to put him in, roughly, his 8th trimester.

*sniff* he's getting SO big!

*Disclaimer* I suck at math, so don't laugh if I f-d that up.  It's the thought that counts.

hterry85

I had to LOL when she said it wasn't normal newborn stuff.

Um, yes sweetie, it is. I did NOT sleep for 6 weeks. I was a walking zombie!

MamaSquish

Scout2005:

But you guys, her Newborn cries.

Cries!

No one else has ever dealt with this, in the history of humanity. 

ali_bl-nov05

Scout2005:

But you guys, her Newborn cries.

Cries!

No one else has ever dealt with this, in the history of humanity. 

She be a supermom, ya'll

LaurelBee

Scout2005:

The thing is, and I honestly say this with no little amount of compassion - I remember those early weeks - it's just absurd for a FTM to say "this isn't normal."

Because good gravy, there is no normal and even if there was, you don't know what it is. You can't. You cannot be prepared beforehand, no matter how many people you talk to, books you read, etc. 

Being a new mom is humbling, horrifying and overwhelming for this very reason - you have no earthly idea what to do and you won't know that until you are in the middle of it. 

amykins1283

I know what it's like to not sleep.

Liam was a super slow eater.  Took an hour at the breast, was awake for thirty minutes, and then would sleep for thirty minutes, only to wake up and start all over again.  

Those first few weeks were sleep deprivation hell.  Add in his reflux and you have a recipe for complete mommy meltdown.  

So, yes, I feel her pain but her situation is not unusual.  And, no, sleeping with us did not cure Liam's reflux.  Medication, lots of rice cereal, and (most of all) time cured Liam's reflux.   

Doodle2011

No post on her actual delivery??  I bet she "caved" and got pain meds!!

LeanneCM

Scout2005:

The thing is, and I honestly say this with no little amount of compassion - I remember those early weeks - it's just absurd for a FTM to say "this isn't normal."

Because good gravy, there is no normal and even if there was, you don't know what it is. You can't. You cannot be prepared beforehand, no matter how many people you talk to, books you read, etc. 

Being a new mom is humbling, horrifying and overwhelming for this very reason - you have no earthly idea what to do and you won't know that until you are in the middle of it. 

haleyjean84

Doodle2011:

No post on her actual delivery??  I bet she "caved" and got pain meds!!

I also noticed that we haven't seen the birth story post yet. I'm wondering if she ever will post it.

glasgow_girl

But...the flora....

historychick79

She does insist her baby doesn't have AR--she just had mild reflux because she was So Stressed from being apart from her parents. I get that babies want closeness, I get that co-sleeping is helpful for many families. But I hate the tone in there that she's had an amazing revelation, that clearly co-sleeping is the ONLY option for keeping newborns happy, and that somehow her situation was so unique and unexperienced ever before in the history of parenting. I'm glad she figured out co-sleeping works for them, but I raise eyebrows at the condescending preachy tone that (always) creeps in there. And somehow, I can't stop myself from reading.

C was in his crib a room away from us at 1wk old. We slept for 2-6hrs at a time. Does CPS need to know? LMK...

insertclevername

Stupid me.  I can't believe I didn't try bed sharing to cure my son's acid reflux.  I instead gave him Prevacid which surely messed with his intestinal flora.  I also wish I had a Dr. that was so amazing that they were able to make diagnosis over the phone without exams and testing. 

SpiderSpray

I had no idea I could have contacted Ripley's Believe It or Not when ds spent the first six weeks of life sleeping on my or dh's chest. If only I'd known then that this sort of thing had never, ever, ever happened before to anyone else. Ever. Never ever.

Tool. I honestly haven't had any major bones to pick with her until this. As a FTM everything you experience is earth-shattering. I get that. But please stop thinking that it is actually earth-shattering for the entire earth. It's actually just you.

And the Gripe Water thing. I really, really hope she "caves" and tears that stomach flora a new a-hole when it comes time to teethe. The thought of a tiny baby in pain b/c mommy has philosophical notions about scary, modern medicine makes me sick. I get that meds can be over-used and dangerous. Gripe Water isn't even really a med, though. Gripe Water hearts flora. Promise.

nealbl

Up to this point she really didn't bother me. I thought she rocked that dress on her way home in her normal size pads Great that she was trying to do everything as natural as possible. Good for her. I couldn't do it! Even the gripe water comment didn't bug me too much. I used it all the time but whateva.

For her to imply that other parents are exaggerating when they say they got no sleep and that only she has experienced no sleep was incredibly insulting. Good for her for finding a solution with bed sharing but seriously bed sharing has been around for a long time. She is not the only person in the world to have a baby that doesn't sleep. "Literally doesn't sleep"

insertclevername

EllaHella:

In her defense, I have often heard the term 4th trimester when referring to a newborn.  The concept is actually helpful in understanding their adjustment from womb to world. I've used the term and embraced the concept.

But yea, other than that she is self righteous and annoying.

I also believe in the concept of the fourth trimester.  Happiest Baby on the Block was my bible for the first few months.  I implemented the 5Ss and tried every variation of them I could think of. 

It is her self righteousness and inflated sense of importance that gets me.  Also the flip way she throws around an phone consultation diagnosis of acid reflux and miracle cure of bed sharing.  My LO suffered horrible reflux and reoccurances every time we tried to wean him of the medication until after his 1st birthday.

SpiderSpray

EllaHella:

In her defense, I have often heard the term 4th trimester when referring to a newborn.  The concept is actually helpful in understanding their adjustment from womb to world. I've used the term and embraced the concept.

But yea, other than that she is self righteous and annoying.

I, too, subscribe to the 4th trimester concept. It definitely applied to ds, and was majorly helpful in the early weeks. Where Selfie and I part ways on the subject, however, is in thinking that her daughter is the only 4th trimester baby in the history of the world (maybe even universe?)

bananarama11

Only Selfie could turn reflux into something about her, instead of about the baby! ZOMG! I cured my babies reflux! It turns out, she just missed me! There was no acid burning her little throat. Silly doctors, prescriptions are for the masses.

2mommiesinoh

When her baby is gagging and choking because the acid reflux is that bad I really hope she reconsiders the meds. Because that panic momoent of omg my child just went from sound asleep to gagging on their own stomach acid is eye opening. Ky was not weaned off of her meds until 15 months...

emsumm

 THE FLORA, THE FLORA!!

zkat

I mostly lurk, and I always read the Selfie posts for entertainment.  I have news for her.  We co-sleep and my 14 month old craptastic sleeper JUST NOW starting sleeping from 8:30 pm to 4:30 am.  Until a couple of weeks ago, he still wanted milk in the middle of the night.  Oh, the horror of what I have done to his flora with teething tablets and motrin when the molars started waking us up every.freaking.hour.

Basically, the know it all, doesn't know it all because if she did, she would know that breastfed babies eat every 2-3 hours, from the beginning of each breast feeding session, not the end of the session.  Wake up, eat for 30-45 min, change diaper, put back down.  Sleep 30 min.  Repeat.

mamabrof

The condescending "Oh, darling" makes me stabby.  I really just thought she was sort of an annoying attention hor before, but now I just really can't stand her.  Seriously?  I mean, c'mon.  No, really, seriously?

suv75

Another stupid post. I'm not surprised. I give my son gripe water and used Zantac until we weaned 2 months ago. The horror. I suck as a mom. Oh and I slept a lot those first weeks, esp since my son was a slow nurser and took upwards of an hour to feed. Do the math Selfie...what are these few hours of sleep while they sleep that you speak of? Moron.

rsrn02

SpiderSpray:

I had no idea I could have contacted Ripley's Believe It or Not when ds spent the first six weeks of life sleeping on my or dh's chest. If only I'd known then that this sort of thing had never, ever, ever happened before to anyone else. Ever. Never ever.

Tool. I honestly haven't had any major bones to pick with her until this. As a FTM everything you experience is earth-shattering. I get that. But please stop thinking that it is actually earth-shattering for the entire earth. It's actually just you.

And the Gripe Water thing. I really, really hope she "caves" and tears that stomach flora a new a-hole when it comes time to teethe. The thought of a tiny baby in pain b/c mommy has philosophical notions about scary, modern medicine makes me sick. I get that meds can be over-used and dangerous. Gripe Water isn't even really a med, though. Gripe Water hearts flora. Promise.

I totally agree.  

honkytonk_kid

Does anyone else pity their pediatrician? 1:30am? Because a one week old was crying if you put her down?? No wonder he told them it was reflux, he probably would have told them anything so he could go back to sleep.

Soap1

honkytonk_kid:

Does anyone else pity their pediatrician? 1:30am? Because a one week old was crying if you put her down?? No wonder he told them it was reflux, he probably would have told them anything so he could go back to sleep.

One of my friends is a pediatrician and he said they basically "diagnose" reflux and prescribe Zantac for any panicked new parent that calls with the "my baby is crying!" complaint.  He said that there aren't any negative side effects to Zantac (it's one of the mildest AR meds), and parents just want a magic pill so they feel like they can do something about the crying.  It's all placebo effect.

PunkyBooster

I just read it and was like, "what?"

I want to pat her on her little head and say:

Congratulations, you have made it through the first few weeks of what millions of other women have been doing for centuries. Here is a cookie. 

I am still wondering if her milk really came in on day 2. Is that usual? Mine came in on day 5 and I thought that was very normal? 

PunkyBooster

amykins1283:

I know what it's like to not sleep.

Liam was a super slow eater.  Took an hour at the breast, was awake for thirty minutes, and then would sleep for thirty minutes, only to wake up and start all over again.  

This was DS too! 

i swear, we had days where he was on one boob for 1 hour, switch boobs for an hour, switch boobs for an hour. 

I watched the entire series of Big Love during those days LOL

 

MegGary

EllaHella:

In her defense, I have often heard the term 4th trimester when referring to a newborn.  The concept is actually helpful in understanding their adjustment from womb to world. I've used the term and embraced the concept.

But yea, other than that she is self righteous and annoying.

I agree with this. Especialy with a colic baby.

I also was freaked out by DD's crying. My concern stemmed from taking Zoloft during pregnancy & the theory that it can cause stress on the baby or possible withdrawal. I was constantly asking the Pedi if he thought it was either. He just kept saying, babies cry it's ok. At 6 weeks the doctor said colic, which made perfect sense.  At 3-4 months she out grew it and things where ok. 

I imagine no one ever truly knows what it's like to be a mother till they are one. It humbles most of us. What is annoying about her is it didn't. She still just thinks it's all new never imagined things only she is experiencing.  

 

IncogNeato

 I spent months doing the wake, change, feed, walk, rock, walk, rock, put down, start screaming, walk, rock, walk, rock, put down, head hit pillow, wakes up screaming, change, feed, walk, rock.... crap. MONTHS! It's normal for many babies. It sucks a big one and makes you reconsider every choice you've ever made in your ever-lovin life, but she's not the first mom to experience it. A lot of us did. Newsflash, selfie. Not every baby is textbook and lets you sleep for 2-3 hours. Gawd, I wish. Then maybe I wouldn't have been a zombie for six months and LO would have started STTN before her first birthday.

Gah! She is so ridiculous but I can't look away!

CupcakeKaper

Yep.  Her abnormal baby sounds just like Kelsy.  Wouldn't sleep in the crib to save her life...she got 30 minutes?  Afreakin'mazing!!!...because we got like 30 seconds.  Oh ya.  Kelsy bedshared until she was 6 months.  And she still doesn't STTN.  So no sympathy there.  But thank god her intestines are in tact because I didn't give in and give her gripe water.  

wife1014

Soap1:

honkytonk_kid:

Does anyone else pity their pediatrician? 1:30am? Because a one week old was crying if you put her down?? No wonder he told them it was reflux, he probably would have told them anything so he could go back to sleep.

One of my friends is a pediatrician and he said they basically "diagnose" reflux and prescribe Zantac for any panicked new parent that calls with the "my baby is crying!" complaint.  He said that there aren't any negative side effects to Zantac (it's one of the mildest AR meds), and parents just want a magic pill so they feel like they can do something about the crying.  It's all placebo effect.

Your friend is a fabulous pediatrician...note sarcasm. What an asss. Fwiw, I called my pediatrician on night 6 of Olivia's life saying she was crying anytime I put her down. Neither the on call Dr nor my own ever mentioned AR. They told me she was a newborn and newborns cry. With Abby, who clearly had severe AR, it took almost 3 months before getting meds. Your friend should be ashamed of himself and his practices. Every med has a side effect. Jerk.

wife1014

t watley:

LOL, if she thinks newborn sleep is bad - wait until the nights when the child is up screaming for hours on end and there is NO sleep. Not even 30 minutes. 

Going two days without sleep isn't shiit. Try going the last 4 months of your pregnancy and then the entire first year on little to no sleep - and then come talk to me.

She's funny.  

She was so concerned about the giegh, imagine if her kid is colicky, cries all day and never sleeps. Heehee.

zeptattoo

I just sit there and chuckle at anything she writes now.

TBLilyRose

Mom2Oli:

I'm at 15 months, 1 week and 1 day and I could count on both hands the number of nights we've had uninterrupted sleep.

And according to her, I've damaged my child for life because I let him CIO at 10 months when he was still waking every 2-3 hours all night long. I know a lot of people at that point said they'd never let their kid CIO or do any sleep training so let's see if she picks up Ferber's book six months from now when the kid is still waking 4-5x a night.

hoping4sticky

Yes, her condescension has reached a new level. While I found her narcissistic I am the best/smartest person on the planet good for a laugh, this was just ridiculous.

I am amazed that she has still managed to try and steal the spotlight from her newborn. LOOK I'm amazing I cured AR with my awesome presense.

I also think that she should have spent more time reading about babies instead of how to prevent the geigh. Does she think that people sleep with babies on their chest for months because they can't get enough snuggle time?