I just wanted to touch base with the other ladies on this board who've had a late loss. I've had m/cs as well but going through labor and delivery and holding my tiny baby in my arms was just a completely different experience. I think that being IF and going through as many treatments as I have also gives a different perspective - I can't just go and have sex to get pg again, and I've been grieving for years already. I have a new emotion every few minutes. I don't know where to go from here - another cycle, adoption, my SIL offered to be a GC for us. The road just seems so long. I want my baby back. Sorry there's really no point to this post, just wondering what the other late loss ladies are feeling too.
Dx: High FSH, stage IV endo, homozygous C677T MTHFR and PAI-1
Early loss 10/08
Lap 1/09
IVF #1 "natural IVF" - 1 egg retrieved, missed m/c
Tried several mini-stim cycles with no response
Switched clinics - dx'd as carrier for Fragile X
IVF #2 MDL protocol Jan/Feb converted to IUI, BFN
IVF #2 take 2: Antagonist, one embie, BFN
IVF #3: Antagonist, no fertilization
One last ditch effort at OE IVF (antagonist with Clomid) cancelled
DE cycle #1 Jan/Feb 2011, BFP, ectopic
DE cycle #2 June/July 2011 - BFP
10/28/11 Baby girl lost at 17 weeks due to pre-term labor. We love and miss you.
DE cycle #3 June/July 2012 - BFP, twins, both heartbeats stopped, D&C
2 frosties but don't know what's next
FET Dec 2012: BFP! Praying this one sticks for the long haul!
Re: Ladies who've had a late loss
IVF #1 w ICSI in July 2010 = BFN
IVF #2.1 in Oct 2010 converted to IUI = BFN
IVF #2.2 w ICSI in Dec 2010 = BFN
Met with new RE in new city on 1/31/11.
IVF #3 w ICSI in April 2011. HPT on 5/9 = BFP!
Beta #1 on 5/10 (10dp5dt) = 99.4. Beta #2 on 5/12 = 284. First u/s on 5/26. = Fraternal TWINS!
Twin boys born & lost on 8/16/11 at 18w1d due to PPROM & preterm labor.
IVF #4.1 in Jan 2012 converted to IUI on 1/7/12 = BFN
IVF #4.2 w ICSI in Feb 2012. Lupron on 2/10. Stims on 2/18. ER on 2/29- 7R,6F
ET scheduled for 3/5/12- nothing to transfer
Dh seeing new MFI uro & Dh starting meds- June 2012.
IVF #5 in Dec 2012 = BFFN.
IVF #6 planned for Spring 2013. Praying for our take home baby/ies.
**P/SAIF and P/SAL always welcome!**
Many hugs to both of you, I can't even wrap my head around the pain you both have gone through. I truly can't even imagine how hard it must be to forge ahead through life and the struggles of IF on top of a late loss just makes it even worse. My thoughts are with you both!!
I hear you sweetie. It's just not fair. A late loss is one of the worst things that can happen to anyone. To have a late loss, on top of IF is just crueler than cruel. It is so hard and you will get better but it is a different kind of better-you're definitely changed and will never be the same.
It's been 9 months for me. Every first is hard: First mother's day, first Halloween, first Tgiving....I'm sitting here crying because my parents said that they don't feel like traveling this Thanksgiving to see us. I know that if the boys were here, I wouldn't have had to even ask them to come-they would have begged us to invite them.
For us, holding the babies was great and I loved seeing my DH love the babies. He was so tender and sweet. I want that again. I want to be a family of many. I want to go to school plays and soccer games.
For us, more IVFs were somewhat of an easy choice. We have insurace coverage for 3 and when those didn't work, my DH took a new job with new insurance and we got 3 more tries. We were considering adoption and DE too but DH really wanted to try for a bio child and the RE told me I had the next 10 years to work with DE so that I should really try with my own now becasue I'm youngish (though a very poor responder).
Do I hate cycling and being IF? Yes. More than anything. Was it worth it? Maybe. I hope so. I am currently 11 weeks pg after IVF#4 (3rd IVF post loss).
Am I happy now that I'm pg? I'm more scared than happy at this point. That being said, in a way, I'm happier now than I when I was cycling. I'm also sad that I have to go through this again. I know I will love this new baby, but I really want my boys back too.
I hope that you recover a little more each day. It gets easier but never gets easy.
TTC Since 10/08 4 IUIs=BFNx4
IVF#1=BFP!! Twins!!
Bradley and Billy born and lost on 2/2/11 at 19w2d due to pPROM/PTL. I miss you, little angels.
IVF#2=BFN
IVF#3=c/p IVF#4=Empty Follicle Syndrome; 1 mature, fertilized, & made it to blast. 5dt of "the lone ranger" on 9/6. Please stick, little one!
IF and late loss is a horrible, unfair combo. I'm so sorry you have joined this club. It's a rollercoaster emotionally. Eventually it gets a little easier but the bad days/weeks still happen.
After 2 failed FETs I wonder all the time what our next steps will be and if they are the right ones and if we'll be able to afford adoption if we decide to go that route and if we'll be able to afford a child if we ever have one and... The list goes on.
I would love 5 minutes with a crystal ball.
Callan George and Bennett Charles born and died 11/7/10
FET #1 April 2011= BFN
FET #2 July 2011= no transfer because my lining sucked
FET #3 February 2012= BFP! 1st beta 9dp5dt=314 2nd beta 11dp5dt=977 1st U/S 3/20 Twins- Heart rates of 111 and 138
Living After Losing
I totally understand everything you are saying. I even remember my doctors saying to me that any late loss is tragic but that mine was heartbreaking because they knew they couldn't just say wait a few months to let your body heal and then try and again and we will see you very soon.
It is so hard to be back at the starting point especially when it feels like your heart is breaking in two from missing your baby/babies so badly.
I say give yourself some time. The first few weeks I was very anti ever trying to get pregnant again but with some time, research and meeting with lots of doctors, almost 9 months later I am feeling ready to try again.
I am thinking of you sweetie - just hang in there and try not to think too far down the road. In the beginning, I gave myself credit for small things, just getting out of bed, going to the store, return a phone a call. Slowly things will start to feel a little more manageable.
Please let me know if you need to talk. ((hugs))
Me: PCOS, Blood/Immune Issues DH: Low all 3
Jun.- Sep. 2010 IUI#1-#3 = BFN
Oct. 2010 = IVF #1 = B/G Twins (passed away Feb. 2011)
May 2011 = Myomectomy and trans-abdominal cerclage (TAC)
Sep. 2011 = Surprise BFP = C/P
Feb. 2012 = sFET #1 = BFN
Feb.2012 = Hail Mary IUI #4 = BFN
April/May 2012 = FET #2 w/our last two embies = BFP (Please let this be it!)
Beta #1 8dp5/6dt = 234 Beta #2 10dp5/6dt = 695 Beta #3 12dp5/6dt = 1796 Beta #4 17dp5/6dt = 17,888 U/S #1 May 17, 2012 = Twins
Baby B's heart stop beating at 9 weeks 5 days
Our little miracle baby is a boy.
Baby Boy Owen and Baby Girl Avery were born too early on Feb. 13, 2011 due to a pedunculated fibroid, incompetent cervix and suspected placental abruption.
"What the heart has once owned and had, it shall never lose." - Henry Ward Beecher
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Lots of love and luck to my PAIF/3T/IF Veteran ladies, especially my dear friend Zookie. Congrats to Papps, Teach84 and Starbuck on their little ones.