TTC After a Loss

How Is That Possible?!?!

I totally hate this B.S. Seriously.

So I got a call back from my doc's office. They were doing a repeat progesterone test since my last results came back low. I charted my cycles, went in when I was supposed to and now they are telling me I didn't ovulate. WTF?! She said blood test indicates there was no ovulation. How in the h*ll is that possible when I got positive OPK's and my body clearly shows a thermal shift. Seriously?! I'm sitting here in tears at work because I am so frustrated!!!!!!


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Re: How Is That Possible?!?!

  • I am so sorry!  That makes no sense that you got a + OPK and showed a thermal shift but no ovulation.  Were you taking any new meds?  I know with fertility medication, I am told not to temp or do OPK's because the medication can mess those things up and it won't be accurate.  (((HUGS)))
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  • (((hugs))) I'm sorry for your disappointing news.
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  • My RE doesn't even test progesterone because it is a hormone that fluctuates and you can't really get a good reading.  How low did she say it was??  Unless it was close to zero, I think your re-draw would have better results.
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  • I'm not sure where the h*ll I even go from here. The super chipper nurse on the phone said "well, just keep trying and if you don't get pg by the 6 month mark make an appointment to come back in to talk to the doc about clomid." So I'm supposed to just sit tight for the next 4 months (it's 6 from my Aug appt date) and just think my body is ovulating? There is CLEARLY something wrong. I don't want to just sit here until February and then start the process to figure out WTF my body is doing. That's just shy of an effin' year from our loss.

    Do you need a referral to see an RE? I'm done with doctors who deal with PG. I want a doctor who deals with IF.


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  • Went in when you were supposed to, as in 7DPO correct?  Not CD21?  If it was CD21 then your doctor is an asshat.  If it was 7DPO, I'm stumped.  Either way the frustration sucks.  I'm sorry.

    ETA:  I went back and looked at your past charts.  It is pretty obvious that you've got some LPD going on, IMO.  Have they considered putting you on progesterone at 3DPO?  Have you tried the B-complex (I forget if it is 6 or 12 that helps) route on your own?  You may have shared all this before, but I'm "new" again and still learning stories.  

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  • Wow. That is very strange, I have never heard that before. I agree with BT, you really need to demand being put on progesterone supplements during your 2ww!! I'm so sorry you're going through this. {{hugs}}


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  • imageLaTi07:

    I'm not sure where the h*ll I even go from here. The super chipper nurse on the phone said "well, just keep trying and if you don't get pg by the 6 month mark make an appointment to come back in to talk to the doc about clomid." So I'm supposed to just sit tight for the next 4 months (it's 6 from my Aug appt date) and just think my body is ovulating? There is CLEARLY something wrong. I don't want to just sit here until February and then start the process to figure out WTF my body is doing. That's just shy of an effin' year from our loss.

    Do you need a referral to see an RE? I'm done with doctors who deal with PG. I want a doctor who deals with IF.

    I would suggest going to an RE.  I would much rather go to my RE's office than my OB any day.  I love my OB but at an RE's office they understand the struggle and can customize a plan that is right for your body.  As for the referral, check with your insurance company.  Some do require it.  Sorry again you are going through this!  You shouldn't have to wait.

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  • so sorry!! hope everything works out for you soon! 
  • I'm sorry you're dealing with that. I think your instincts are correct: you're better off being treated by an RE than a regular OB. Hopefully you'll get some answers.

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  • I agree with PPs about seeing an RE. I am so sorry you recieved confusing/frustrating results! I hope an RE can get you the answers you need.
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  • Ugggg I'm sorry Sad  I would be really frustrated if they told me to wait till February too!!  That 6 months is awful long when you think that your either not ovulating at all or have a LPD.  (((hugs)))
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  • Thanks ladies. I think tomorrow I am going to call my insurance company and get info from them on how I move forward. With my history with PCOS and now obviously some sort of LP issue, I just can't leave this up to chance. I need someone who is going to do the appropriate testing and figure out what my issue is so we can attack it. And there is NO way I'm going to put this off another 4 freaking months. That means I will have been TTA for no real reason for a year. Ain't going down like that. I absolutely trust my doctor as an OB, but I just don't think she has the experience to be dealing with IF issues.

    Tonight, I plan on drinking heavily and eating the most fattening food I can possibly find. Thanks again ladies for the input.


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  • Ok, I went and read a bit of your blog.  Your doctor is an asshat.  CD21 testing when you O on CD19 is like declaring a cycle failed when you POAS at 2DPO.  Can I say again that I freaking hate the 28 day cycle myth?!?

    Definitely find a new doctor.  If your insurance won't cover an RE yet, look for an OB/GYN that specializes in PCOS or infertility.  

     I know I'm no success story, but I've done a lot of reading and questioning and researching.  You *can* beat this.  You need an ally not an idiot in your camp though.  

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  • I'm so sorry you have to deal with this frustrating situation. I would be drinking and eating delicious food too.

    I hope your phone call to your insurance company is productive so you can move on to an RE soon. 

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  • imageBabyTrippin:

    Ok, I went and read a bit of your blog.  Your doctor is an asshat.  CD21 testing when you O on CD19 is like declaring a cycle failed when you POAS at 2DPO.  Can I say again that I freaking hate the 28 day cycle myth?!?

    Definitely find a new doctor.  If your insurance won't cover an RE yet, look for an OB/GYN that specializes in PCOS or infertility.  

     I know I'm no success story, but I've done a lot of reading and questioning and researching.  You *can* beat this.  You need an ally not an idiot in your camp though.  

    I think you're right. I think my doctor is just not trained enough in this area. I'll be honest, I don't know a lot about this LPD thing so I'm trusting that my doctor does. Obviously, she doesn't.

    I'm going to call my Insurance company tomorrow to find out if an RE is even covered, how much is, etc. And if I need to get a referral to see one. If I can't get to one, then I will definitely look for a new OB who is experienced with PCOS and IF (thanks for the tip, that never even crossed my mind!)

    Like I told DH, the hardest part in all this is we're no closer now than we were on 03/20 to being parents. I feel like the last 7 months have just been a big waste of my time trying to work with someone who obviously doesn't know much in this area and that sucks.


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  • (((HUGS))) I am so sorry hun.  Your Dr does sound like an idiot!

    I know I had to be referred to go to an RE, but I live in a *smaller* town where there is ONE RE, he has a team of 2 CNPs, a genetic counsler and a hoard of nurses.  He gets pretty busy.  I would totally ask if you can get a referral to an RE, this is ridiculous! 

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  • I'm so sorry hun!  (((HUGS)))

    I know I needed to be referred to an RE, but he is the only RE in our *smallish* town so maybe its because he would be so busy otherwise?  Im would check with insurance and your Dr and get out of there ASAP!  GL!

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  • imageBabyTrippin:

    Ok, I went and read a bit of your blog.  Your doctor is an asshat.  CD21 testing when you O on CD19 is like declaring a cycle failed when you POAS at 2DPO.  Can I say again that I freaking hate the 28 day cycle myth?!?

    Definitely find a new doctor.  If your insurance won't cover an RE yet, look for an OB/GYN that specializes in PCOS or infertility.  

     I know I'm no success story, but I've done a lot of reading and questioning and researching.  You *can* beat this.  You need an ally not an idiot in your camp though.  

    I agree.  I didn't need a referral to see my RE.  You can either call the office and give them your insurance details and they can tell you if you need a refferal, or you can call your insurance.  In any case, find a new OB stat.  I had to lie to my original OB (the one who actually gave me the clomid) and tell him that I O'd on a specific date so I could have my bloodwork drawn on the right day.  His nurse almost didn't draw it because she said "usually we draw it between CD21 and 23, so it might be off if you're not on those days."  I was CD25 and had O'd on CD18.

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  • I'm so sorry - it's soooo frustrating for docs to just assume you have all the time in the world, and magically one day things will just get better on their own.  I got tired of this theory and called an RE.  I didn't need a referral, so hopefully you won't either.  Good luck!

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  • I'm sorry hon.  Sounds like the doctors at that office are a piece of work.  Good luck in finding an RE!

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  • I'm so sorry! Big (((((hugs))))).
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    imageBabyTrippin:

    Ok, I went and read a bit of your blog.  Your doctor is an asshat.  CD21 testing when you O on CD19 is like declaring a cycle failed when you POAS at 2DPO.  Can I say again that I freaking hate the 28 day cycle myth?!?

    Definitely find a new doctor.  If your insurance won't cover an RE yet, look for an OB/GYN that specializes in PCOS or infertility.  

     I know I'm no success story, but I've done a lot of reading and questioning and researching.  You *can* beat this.  You need an ally not an idiot in your camp though.  

    Definitely this. If they were testing on CD21, instead of 7DPO then they are idiots.

    But, don't discount what I wrote before. You CAN have a thermal shift and still tank your progesterone test.  

    I wanted to back up Petra's experience. I had a P4 draw of 5.4 and then one of 3.1 but both times I ovulated - and my clinic agreed. They were just not very good eggs.  Once I was put on Progesterone I conceived again.

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