It's so weird to see the signs to eliminate same-sex

gracendantho26

marriage on people's lawns right now. California has Prop 8 on the ballot which would eliminate same sex marriage in Ca.

Anyway, it's weird and I am really surprised to see how many people have them on my street. We have 'no on 8' signs too but not nearly as may it seems.

Care to share how you are voting if you are in Ca or would vote if you lived here?

DaiLyght

Florida has something similar on the ballot. I've seen people who have signs on their lawn that say "One man. One Woman. Vote Yes blah blah blah"

I had visions of stopping the car and kicking the sign. I guess that answers how I feel, huh? 

eclaires

Indiana has had a ballot initiative a few years in a row for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, but it hasn't made it to the ballot yet.  Thankfully, I guess.  I'd vote against it, but IN is pretty conservative.

I lived in Michigan a few years ago when they had it on the ballot and I voted against it there - I was pretty shocked by how high of a number voted for the ban - it passed I think.

penguingrrl

I would absolutely vote to keep same-sex marriage.  I don't care that marriage is a term that originated in religion, unless you call all non-religious-based marriages by another name, only allowing heterosexual couples to marry is discrimination. 

stacynikki

I'm a moderate republican but am leaning democrat these days because of stuff like this.  People should marry whomever they want to marry regardless if it's a man or woman.

gracendantho26

I literally gave the thumbs down to a group of people yesterday with their 'yes on 8' signs.  It was super dorky but they annoyed me.

mags2041

We have a similar prop in AZ to define marriage as one man and one woman. ?Funny thing is there was one like it in the last election that was voted down. ?I'm voting no.

KeML

I would vote NO for sure.  Dai, there's a similar prop on the ballot in FL?  Is it statewide?  I know nothing about it.

heyitsme

I'm going to C&P from a response to a friend on another board about Prop 8:

 I am HOPING it will fail. And I'd say in our area the signs I see most are for NO/YES on 8 and also regarding a school redistricting.

I believe in separation of church and state. Obviously not everyone in CA has a religion, and it's obviously not the same for those who do. If your religions or beliefs don't agree, teach it to your kids at home. After all, isn't that what certain families do at home? (ex. if DD is taught something in school that doesn't exactly align with our belief system, I see it as my responsibility to say, "You learned this, but what our faith teaches is this.")

People are SO up in arms about not wanting their children to learn about gay marriage in school. The dumb thing is, NO WHERE in Prop 8 is education mentioned!! People are just jumping to the conclusion that if Prop 8 is passed, that second graders are going to be engaged in discussions about single-sex couples, etc. Um, no!

I really hope Prop 8 fails.

 

Angela814

We voted on something like that in Wisconsin fairly recently.  I was pissed at the results.  Wisconsin does not allow gay marriage.

gracendantho26

I honestly feel bad for our good friends and neighbors who live across the street that are a gay couple...just that they see these signs everyday. And honestly they've been together 10 years but don't seem to want to get married . But it seems like it would raise their eyebrows with some of our neighbors.

jorie

What is so weird about it?  Is it weird to you that same-sex marriage is an issue, or weird that people would be against it?  FWIW, I'm for same-sex marriage but I wouldn't think it was weird to see signs of people who think differently.

veloelle

I'm voting No on 8.

I see way more yes on 8 signs in my very conservative hood. I don't have any politico signs in my yard as my views aren't in line w/ the neighbors.

And honestly, the Yes on 8 signs actually make me so sad. They make me more sad than angry about inequality.

gracendantho26

Yes, weird that so many people in my neighborhood are actively seeking to take away the right at all. And to think "weird" was my nice word I was using and I still got flamed. wheeee!

AviatorJJ

lmao at gettting out and kicking the sign!

i really don't see why people even care who other people marry. it doesn't affect your marriage so butt out!

jorie

I don't know if I'd consider it a flame, but sorry you thought so.  I usually stay out of discussion if I feel my response is going to be flameful. Weird I don't get.  Sad/angry...definitely.

Purrrfect433

I'm voting NO on 8. We went to the Oktoberfest in Campbell this weekend and there were people on the corners holding up the Yes on 8 signs. They had children holding them up, trying to get people to honk in agreement. It made me so mad to see those children there. This doesn't effect children and all it's doing is teaching them bigotry and hatred. Call me a bleeding-heart liberal, but despite your personal/moral views on homosexuality, it shouldn't be a civil matter. Same-sex marriage should be legal. They should have all the same rights as traditional married couples. It's about human rights, in my opinion.

hero

I think what irks me the most is the pro Prop 8 signs that claim the amendment will protect freedom of speech. It's pathetic the people really believe some of the pro Prop 8 propaganda.

I have no problem that others don't agree with my opinion. I still think they're reasoning is wrong and I hope Prop 8 gets voted down.

Purrrfect433

LOL, Grace! I was giving them the thumbs-down and booing them, too. An old lady stuck her tongue out at me!!!

gracendantho26

Honestly yes in my area I would hope for more open mindedness and I do think it's weird that so many of my neighbors support this ban. Weird , sad, annoying, intolerant...what have you!

kjlrs

I wouldn't vote against gay marriage, but I honestly don't care about the issue all that much. I'm always surprised by the number of strong opinions on here. Some of the issues that most bring up (ie, right to visit in a hospital etc) are really moot especially if you draw up papers to make your wishes known.

 

Ironically, I think that gay marriage would serve the goals of many that think they are against it. For instance, I think that some see it as having to do with health insurance privileges etc. My brother lives in CA and had his girlfriend on his insurance plan which always annoyed me for some reason. I guess because they could get married and obviously had chosen not to for some reason. So if anybody can legally marry anybody they want to then you would get away from the theory that you have to allow any couple that says "sure we're committed" to share benefits etc.

 

I'm sure I'll get flamed - don't get me wrong. I'm not against it at all, I just feel a lot more strongly about a lot of issues that I think are more important.

gracendantho26

Hey Purrr those were the exact people I gave the thumbs down to in Campbell...LOL!

MrsSledge

jorie:

I don't know if I'd consider it a flame, but sorry you thought so.  I usually stay out of discussion if I feel my response is going to be flameful. Weird I don't get.  Sad/angry...definitely.

 

I think it's weird so many people care about who someone else, that they are not related to and in many cases do not even know, marries.  I really don't care who other people marry, and maybe I am ignorant of the propositions that are out there, but I don't see how they effect others.

gracendantho26

I think it's a huge issue and one that everyone (who agrees with me) should care about.

bubu

My aunt was over at my house a few days ago and she said she was voting yes on prop 8. I almost fell over I was shocked that I had someone in my life that was so heartless to actually make it a law to discriminate against someone. I see signs on the lawns and stickers on cars to vote yes and I want to yell at these people, it bothers me so much and I don't even have any gay friends or family. It's just not right and it shows that some people just have no compassion for others. I am voting no and I hope it others will too.

AnneUCSB

I am absolutely voting No on Prop 8. ?My step-sis is gay and I think she and her partner (and anyone else) have just as much right to marry as every other human. ?It really irks me that the "Yes on 8" signs also say "Yes on Families." ?WTF??? ?My step-sister and her partner and their DS and their new DC on the way do not make up a family? ?Are you shitting me? ?Ugh- don't get me started. ?It's hard to believe such ignorance still exists today!

CleoKitty

I would be voting against the proposition and yes, I find it sad that people are so concerned about what two consenting adults do. It also confounds me that some people really don't think it's a big deal one way or the other- if it was *your* rights it'd be a huge deal! And a simple visit to an attorney to sign some papers doesn't provide all of the same protections and rights. My sister is married to another woman but our state does not legally recognize her marriage. They have a house that they've purchased together, but if one of them was to die then the surviving spouse would have to still pay inheritence tax on the home. They have waaaay more hoops to jump through than you or I with regards to property rights and so forth.

MrsCali_Bride

We're voting No on 8.  I can't imagine taking away someone's right to legally marry who they choose to just because of their sex.

fireflymama

One of the main reasons I registered to vote here instead of getting an absentee ballot from VA is that I want to vote NO on 8. ?

?I'm pretty disgusted when I see "Vote Yes" signs on lawns in my neighborhood and I make a mental note not to go out of my way to be neighborly to those people--why would I even bother to befriend people who would take away the rights of other humans? ?

Riley&ZanesMom

KeML:

I would vote NO for sure.  Dai, there's a similar prop on the ballot in FL?  Is it statewide?  I know nothing about it.

It's Amendment 2 here in FL.

jaredswife

I think anyone would have to be very brave to say they would vote against. 

but, I will do it.  I am a Christian and I would vote against gay marriage.  I am not hateful, or or judgemental but that is what I believe.

Zenya

I support gay marriage and I'm too tired to figure out what that means as far as how I would vote.  I think it means I would vote no, in this context.

BubblyToes

SC voted it down in the last election.  Surprise, surprise.

I love the post about kicking the sign.  That's what I would want to do too.

And to the poster who didn't get why people feel so strongly about it, it is a HUGE deal.  People are being discriminated upon.  Love is love.  Be it man woman, man man, woman woman.  Love is love.

BubblyToes

jaredswife:

I think anyone would have to be very brave to say they would vote against. 

but, I will do it.  I am a Christian and I would vote against gay marriage.  I am not hateful, or or judgemental but that is what I believe.

I'm Christian too.  I will defend a gay couple's right to be legally married until I'm not able too.

Emiliana7

I'm in NC and I don't think we have anything like that coming up... but if we did it would be how its worded as to how I would vote. I don't think the government should be 'marrying' anyone. Marriage, to me- IMO, is a Sacrement, a religious thing. However I do think people should be able to have unions with each other that affect them in a governmental/legal way. Bascially how you go to get a 'marriage' license would be to get a union between person and the Marriage itself would be something separate within a church (or the like) enviroment.

So, I don't support "gay marriage", but if 2 men or women, or a man and a woman want to make a legal contract recognised by the government then sure! However, I do think then if a man and 2 women (or any combo therein) of all legal consenting age want to form a union then they should be allowed to as well. Now I wouldn't ever do polygmy (sp?) but I do think consenting adults should beable to form into legal unions in whichever way they feel best for them.

As such, marriages would be kept separate from any state/federal matters and so churches could do their thing however their beliefs deem faithful. And what the gov't would recognise could be different.

However, if the gov't allows all types of unions then the schools could actually allow, teach and read books where the family unit is made up of 2 moms or 2 dads or a mom and a dad, etc... Which some schools have been in the news for such books already anyway. So yes, the kids could learn about the different ways to couple in school- well at least public schools.

 

NikiGee

I'm in CA too and I think it's just crazy. ?There are probably 90% "yes on 8" signs around here and only about 10% for "no on 8". ?My neighbor is one who proudly displays his yes on 8 sign and it makes my head blow up every time I leave my house because I feel so passionately about this issue and have already voted no on my absentee. ?My neighbor told me that his sign was stolen twice in one day this past weekend. ?What's hilarious is that we live in a small neighborhood at the end of a cul de sac so I'm not sure who would've even stolen it. ?Another neighbor perhaps??