kids in public

hollyg1920

https://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/05/granderson.bratty.kids/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

SpartanChick88

Totally agree.  I get to deal with undisciplined kids at work every day.  My SIL's kids are the kids he talks about... no one ever tells them no.  Discipline is part of raising a productive member of society.

I read the 'Baby News' that our pedi gave us for this age range and it says "use the word 'no' sparingly".  Um... really?  So am I supposed to let her get into wires and cat food and the garbage?  I think not - she knows the word and she knows it means STOP!  When she pitches a fit because I've taken something away, I wait for her to get over it... I don't give her whatever she wants - and she's only 8 months old! 

argonne

Kredd88:

Totally agree.  I get to deal with undisciplined kids at work every day.  My SIL's kids are the kids he talks about... no one ever tells them no.  Discipline is part of raising a productive member of society.

I read the 'Baby News' that our pedi gave us for this age range and it says "use the word 'no' sparingly".  Um... really?  So am I supposed to let her get into wires and cat food and the garbage?  I think not - she knows the word and she knows it means STOP!  When she pitches a fit because I've taken something away, I wait for her to get over it... I don't give her whatever she wants - and she's only 8 months old! 

You're supposed to use "no" sparingly so when LO hears it it means something.  I see so many children where the parents say "no...No...NO" and the kid pretty much ignores it because they hear it all the time.

When I use no, I then redirect to an acceptable activity or toy.  I always use no in a stern, "I mean business" kind of voice.

kdello

argonne:

Kredd88:

Totally agree.  I get to deal with undisciplined kids at work every day.  My SIL's kids are the kids he talks about... no one ever tells them no.  Discipline is part of raising a productive member of society.

I read the 'Baby News' that our pedi gave us for this age range and it says "use the word 'no' sparingly".  Um... really?  So am I supposed to let her get into wires and cat food and the garbage?  I think not - she knows the word and she knows it means STOP!  When she pitches a fit because I've taken something away, I wait for her to get over it... I don't give her whatever she wants - and she's only 8 months old! 

You're supposed to use "no" sparingly so when LO hears it it means something.  I see so many children where the parents say "no...No...NO" and the kid pretty much ignores it because they hear it all the time.

When I use no, I then redirect to an acceptable activity or toy.  I always use no in a stern, "I mean business" kind of voice.

Yep. I normally save "no" for when it's something breakable or a safety issue. I don't want her to tune it out like I see so often when parents say it CONSTANTLY.

SpartanChick88

kdello:

argonne:

Kredd88:

Totally agree.  I get to deal with undisciplined kids at work every day.  My SIL's kids are the kids he talks about... no one ever tells them no.  Discipline is part of raising a productive member of society.

I read the 'Baby News' that our pedi gave us for this age range and it says "use the word 'no' sparingly".  Um... really?  So am I supposed to let her get into wires and cat food and the garbage?  I think not - she knows the word and she knows it means STOP!  When she pitches a fit because I've taken something away, I wait for her to get over it... I don't give her whatever she wants - and she's only 8 months old! 

I use it for power cords, electronics and the cat and dog while they are eating. I'm not meaning it to sound like she hears it all the time, but when she needs to stay away she will know it.  For things like the garbage can I tell her 'yuck'. 

I just feel like some parents don't use the word 'no' at all.  My MIL actually said, of DH's youngest nephew "he doesn't like that word".  It's amazing how many kids have no concept of the meaning of the word.

You're supposed to use "no" sparingly so when LO hears it it means something.  I see so many children where the parents say "no...No...NO" and the kid pretty much ignores it because they hear it all the time.

When I use no, I then redirect to an acceptable activity or toy.  I always use no in a stern, "I mean business" kind of voice.

Yep. I normally save "no" for when it's something breakable or a safety issue. I don't want her to tune it out like I see so often when parents say it CONSTANTLY.

Angela814

kdello:

argonne:

Kredd88:

Totally agree.  I get to deal with undisciplined kids at work every day.  My SIL's kids are the kids he talks about... no one ever tells them no.  Discipline is part of raising a productive member of society.

I read the 'Baby News' that our pedi gave us for this age range and it says "use the word 'no' sparingly".  Um... really?  So am I supposed to let her get into wires and cat food and the garbage?  I think not - she knows the word and she knows it means STOP!  When she pitches a fit because I've taken something away, I wait for her to get over it... I don't give her whatever she wants - and she's only 8 months old! 

You're supposed to use "no" sparingly so when LO hears it it means something.  I see so many children where the parents say "no...No...NO" and the kid pretty much ignores it because they hear it all the time.

When I use no, I then redirect to an acceptable activity or toy.  I always use no in a stern, "I mean business" kind of voice.

Yep. I normally save "no" for when it's something breakable or a safety issue. I don't want her to tune it out like I see so often when parents say it CONSTANTLY.

Exactly. You're supposed to choose better descriptive words like "hot", "yucky", "owies", etc.

Fulbri05

I think this article is BS. Yes, annoying, poorly behaved children suck to be in public with. And a lot of those annoying children are due to bad parenting. But when you only see something happen in a restaurant for for a plane ride, you have no idea what the full situation is. Yeah, I know, "U dont no my lyfe!". But a baby crying on a plane? I'm sure the parent isn't too happy about it either. And sometimes "the look" just doesn't work. I'm surprised that the author of the article has kids, because as a mother I know I judge a hellll of a lot less because I understand that kids are sometimes just out of control. 

crysmike

Fulbri05:

I think this article is BS. Yes, annoying, poorly behaved children suck to be in public with. And a lot of those annoying children are due to bad parenting. But when you only see something happen in a restaurant for for a plane ride, you have no idea what the full situation is. Yeah, I know, "U dont no my lyfe!". But a baby crying on a plane? I'm sure the parent isn't too happy about it either. And sometimes "the look" just doesn't work. I'm surprised that the author of the article has kids, because as a mother I know I judge a hellll of a lot less because I understand that kids are sometimes just out of control. 

I'm kinda with you.  On the one hand - I do judge when I see kids wildly out of control and parents not doing a darn thing.  However, I rarely ever see that.  That being said, two of the times I have taken DD out to eat, I got weird old people glaring at us.  She wasn't crying or anything - she was sitting in a high chair, happily playing and gumming puffs.  Some people just hate kids, and don't want to see them in public at all.    If we would never take them anywhere, how would they learn to behave in public when they're older???

ms12345

"The ugly truth is it's the spineless parents who parade their undisciplined children around like royalty that make people dislike kids."

Substitute "children" with "dogs" and you have my feelings on people like my sister who thinks her dog is GOD and belongs anywhere and everywhere, and godforbid you don't want wet nose in your crotch or in your food or, I don't know, all over your child's face... you're so evil for complaining about that!

I'm not bitter at all.