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Jobs vs lifestyle?

I did not know how to word the title of this post. Here is my question for you, do you ever judge how good a person is/will be at their job based on their lifestyle. For example. Would you see a marriage counselor who is divorced, a nutritionist who is obese, a financial adviser who just foreclosed on a house (this is my BIL), just wondering what you think?

Re: Jobs vs lifestyle?

  • ZenyaZenya member
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    Yep... see if I am looking to get healthy and lose weight so I go see a nutritionist i want them to be in shape too. Judgey? Sure but it is what it is. 

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  • I've never really thought about it.  I think in a way they'd have a unique insight.  Like the marriage counselor who has been-there-done-that would really be able to relate what clients could be facing.  And an obese nutritionist would understand why people overeat.   

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  • I haven't really been faced with this decision very often.  BUT, our pediatrician just so happens to be overweight and she doesn't have kids either.  I have stuck with her because she is wonderful at what she does and I trust her completely with the health of my kids. 

    For some of your other examples, I'm not quite sure how some of that info would make its way into the conversation...I don't picture someone like a marriage counselor or financial adviser offering up that information.

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    imageAndrewsgal:
    imageZenya:

    Yep... see if I am looking to get healthy and lose weight so I go see a nutritionist i want them to be in shape too. Judgey? Sure but it is what it is. 

    I am not a fan of her because she's into that 'health at any size' BS.  You know, 'healthy' 300lb people and the like.  Her BMI is over 40, she says.  Which would be me at about 270lbs.   

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  • I probably would not see a divorced marriage counselor, but I would see a fat nutritionist or a financial adviser who can't manage his own money well.  Nutrition is not just about being fat or skinny and financial advice is not just about whether you spend or save or had a bad divorce or some other situation that landed you in a jam, it is about concrete knowledge, where as, the marriage counselor is more about emotions and attitude, even if they lead you very professionally toward solutions to your issues, I think that experience can't help but color your attitude.  There are studies that indicate if you have a good friend who divorces, you are more likely to divorce. 
  • I think I do. I don't really judge them, but I always think it is odd to see a doctor or nurse that is overweight or if you know they smoke..I don't know why because I know they are human just like us..For example my uncle is a really big doctor at a great hospital and gives talks all over the world, but his wife goes tanning. He even suggests it to her because he knows she feels better after, I think that is kind of weird since it is so unhealthy for you. I mean he isn't a cancer doctor or anything but everyone knows that and doctors are normally so anti-tanning..My pediatrician just had kids, she didn't have any for like the first 4 years she saw my kids , but I think she is great and so down to earth, but knowledgeable..I have a degree in counseling and I am always afraid if I get a school counseling job which is really my dream then one of my kids will give us a run for our money and everyone will be thinking "and look their mom is a counselor.."
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  • Every nurse in my cardiologists office weighs 250+, and I see them outside smoking all the time.  I don't judge them, but I do question the dr's judgement when hiring them to be honest.
  • I'm quite sure my (male) OB has never delivered a child himself -- nor would I require him to.

    You don't need to be an alcoholic to counsel on addiction.

    You don't need to be skinny to counsel on nutrition.

    I can tell you exactly what you SHOULD do -- doesn't mean I have the discipline to do it myself!  :)

  • In my experience in the counseling field, I have learned that many addicts believe to be a "good" counselor/therapist in reaching those with addiction problems who have to have "been there" yourself to reach others..not necessarily what I think , but I have heard this from sooo many people...I think many of us have addictions not necessarily to illegal substances though.
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  • ZenyaZenya member

    I think for me it depends on the profession.  I have issues with that nutrionist's views on things.  I just don't agree with her so that would stop me going there.  I think in general it has more to do with that.  Where they are philosophically.  I mean  a divorced marriage counselor may have married the wrong person years before she got her degree or whatever.  Who knows what paths peoples lives take.

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  • imageJodi&Joe:

    I can tell you exactly what you SHOULD do -- doesn't mean I have the discipline to do it myself!  :)

    Pretty much this.  Some things are out of your control, too.  But in financial services, unfortunately, a foreclosure, bankruptcy, etc. is publicly disclosable and will hurt your business.

    DS1 age 7, DD age 5 and DS2 born 4/3/12
  • What's that saying? Those who can't, teach? Well, just because they can't do it for themselves, doesn't mean that they can't reach people and teach them to do it. I worry more about the training they have received and their education in their particular area of expertise.

    However, I would have a hard time with a nutritionist that doesn't practice what they preach, for example. It doesn't mean they have to be skinny, but if I am meeting with them and they have just polished off a huge bag of Doritos, I would have a problem with that.

  • I think you really have to take it on a case by case basis.  I mean, the marriage counselor may have been being abused by her ex and that's why she divorced, not because she wasn't "practicing what she preached."

    I work with a woman who has 7 children by 4 different men and is bat-sh*t crazy.  She just went back to school for marriage and family counseling.  Um, no.

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  • imageDandelionMom:

    I've never really thought about it.  I think in a way they'd have a unique insight.  Like the marriage counselor who has been-there-done-that would really be able to relate what clients could be facing.  And an obese nutritionist would understand why people overeat.   

    For me it depends on the specific job, a marriage counselor might have insight and might do things differently now but an obese personal trainer makes me question if they really know what they are doing, same for my personal trainer.  On the other side, my Mom told me she had a Weight Watchers leader that only lost 10 lbs and the women that had a lot to lose just did not find her inspirational like they did other leaders that lost 80 lbs, no one wants the women they think was always skinny telling them that she knows what it is like to struggle with their weight when they have a lot to lose.

    Jen - Mom to two December 12 babies Nathaniel 12/12/06 and Addison 12/12/08
  • I think in those situations you mentioned it is key for the advisor to appear proficient in that area of their own life. However, if the professions and lifestyles were interchanged (i.e. a financial advisor who is obese our a divorced nutritionist or a marriage counselor in foreclosure, etc.) it would not affect my decision to utilize their services.
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