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DH confessed he didn't feel a part of the conception. :o(

So last night was the first time since the boys were born that I didn't wear a nursing tank to bed.  I stopped nursing/pumping months ago, but I still wore it.

Anyway, I'm laying in bed irrationally crying to DH that time is moving so fast and that nursing tank was the last piece of the newborn connection we had. 

DH: I'm sorry you're sad.  I don't really get it since I wasn't a part of that whole feeding thing in the beginning though.

Me: It's dumb, I know.

DH: I didn't feel part of the conception either--

Me: WHAT?!  (queue baaaaawling) 

DH: Whoa, no no no.  I love our boys.  If we didn't go that route they wouldn't both be here.  Please stop crying.  That's not what I meant. 

Me: I'm sorry I have shittty ovaries!!

We knew what we were getting into with IF treatments, but I guess I was pretty me me me with it all. He's 100% bonded with the boys, very happy, and a fantastic dad. Clearly I'm over-thinking this.  But still, I'm super duper sad about it today. I thought once we expecting that our IF hell would be over.  Crying

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Re: DH confessed he didn't feel a part of the conception. :o(

  • IF effects everyone involved - and I think sometimes our DH's hold it in more b/c they know we hurt so much... but they do hurt, too - i think it's good he told you. In no way is he blaming you for it- it's just how he feels... probably how all men feel who have to spank it into a cup for us to get pg.

    Hell- i didn't feel like part of my conception - laying on a table with my legs in stirrups does not = how I thought I'd be getting pg all my life... none of us do.

    don't take it personally- i don't even know him, but i know he's not blaming you - i think he's just sympathizing with you as you were feeling sad- he was sharing something that he feels sad about, too.

    and think about it- most people who get pg are just doing the deed and don't even know they are TTC at all - and BAM - baby.... so it's not like they were having romantic sex thinking about the baby they were creating that night- b/c most people don't even know it's gonna happen.... so i bet the majority of dads in the world didn't feel "part of the conception".

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  • I could have written your post myself though our reason for IF and IVF is due to DH, see siggie.  We both feel far removed from conception too, there is no passion no excitement no unexpected surprises just procedures and waiting and betas and waiting and if our FET does not take then back to IVF and if we run out of the PESA sperm more surgery for DH.  Conception with "IF" is all about

    IF the lining is thick enough

    IF there are enough eggs and ER is possible,

    IF there are enough sperm and they are healthy 

    IF the eggs are mature,

    IF the lab could create embryos

    IF it/they survived to 3-5 days

    IF the ET was successful

    IF it/they implanted,

    IF it/they stick,

    IF the beta is positive

    IF the beta is doubling fast enough

    IF there is enough progesterone

    IF there is/are a heartbeat

    IF we make it through the first trimester

    IF we make it to viability

    IF we have remaining embryos are they frozen, and we have to sign papers about what will happen to these embabies IF one of us dies or divorces.....

    IF is what "IF" is all about?  

    If we want to have more children it is make an appointment a few months before, get tested again for every possible malady or issue per the FDA requirements, take a whole bunch of meds and injections, and have an RE insert a droplet with embryos created in a lab.  Not very sexy or romantic not spontaeous not fun, tons of worry and heartache and awful scary decisions.

     Yet an amazing blessing no matter how conception occurs. ((hugs))

    H: 34 dx Azoospermia due to CBAVD from CF  
    ME: 39 IS FINE!!!  DOR and poor AMH/FSH/LH
    IVF/ICSI/PESA #1 Beta 1 373 Beta 2 1783 BOY/GIRL TWINS!! Born April 2010!!
    Natural FET 5/26/12 2 blasts Beta 1 207 Beta 2 513 Beta 3 1377 U/S 6/28 Pregnancy not viable d & c scheduled :( 
    IVF/ICSI/PESA #2 ER 11/15/12 Nothing to transfer :( 
    IVF/ICSI #3 April 2013 MDLF 3dt of 3 embryos, chemical :(  
    IVF #4/ICSI/MESA/CCS/FET EPP April 2015
    ODWU CCRM with Dr. Sch COMPLETE!!!! Put on acai supplement they are studying for DOR and embryo quality.
    DAY 3 Labs Drawn 2/26 put on vitamin D and calcium supplements
    Regroup and Protocol Reveal 3/04 "Bazooka Protocol" EPP with MDLF "Protocol 6 with patches"
    ER/MESA 4/10 ER 9 eggs retrieved MESA success found live swimmers :)
    Fertilization Report 6 eggs mature and ICSI'd 4 eggs fertilized normally
    Day 6 Report to Blast for CCS 4/16: 2 DAY 5 BLASTS BIOPSIED FOR CCS a 4AB and a 3AB!!!!
    CCS Results BOTH BLASTS CCS NORMAL!!!!!!  call on 4/24
    Regroup call to discuss CCS results and FET call on 5/20
    FET prep: CD 1 6/08 CD 3 Start BCP 6/10, HSG 6/12 Lupron Start 10 iu 6/17 End BCP 6/21 CD 1 6/23!!!
    Start vivelle patches 6/25 change e/o/d reduce Lupron to 5iu 6/25 Blood Draw 7/01, 7/08, 7/15, 7/19
    Increase vivelle patches 7/03 2 change e/o/d and 7/05 change e/o/d 3 and 7/07 4 change e/o/d add vaginal estrace 2x a day
    Lining Check/Blood Draw 7/08 and 7/15 End Lupron 7/18  Start PIO 1ml daily 7/18  Blood  Draw 7/19
    Flight to clinic 7/22
    FET 2 CCS BLASTS :):)  7/23 :):) YES YES both thawed and both fully expanded :):)
    7/26 :):) 3dp5dt PM very very faint positive FRER
    7/27: 4dp5dt Neg Digi AM but very very faint positive FRER PM POSITIVE DIGI CLEARBLUE PREGNANT 1-2 :):) 
    7/31:8dp5dt AM POSITIVE DIGI CLEARBLUE PREGNANT 2-3!!!! :):) 
    Beta 1 8/01= 408!!!!!!!!!! at 9dp5dt FET
    Beta 2 8/03 = 1014!!!!!!!!!! at 11dp5dt FET
    8/05/2015 AM POSITIVE DIGI CLEARBLUE PREGNANT 3+!!!! :):) 
    First Ultrasound: 8/20!!!!!! TWINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Genetics says BOTH BOYS!!!!!!!!!
    Second Ultrasound: 9/03!!!!!!!!!!










     










  • hmm, i wonder if my DH feels like he was part of it? We had male IF so had to do IVF and he had just started a new job so couldnt get off to go to ANY dr appts.  My mom came with me for all of them, including the transfer.  To this day I am not sure he realizes exactly how much I went through.  But I dont think that its important...he is wonderful Dad and at this point, its water under the bridge.

    Oh, and funny story: The only appt my DH went to was the one he was required to leave his specimen. so, the first time he went he was in the room FOREVER.  and then he came out, looking all shy and embarrassed.  I figured it was just because it took him so long.  We're driving home and he is acting so weird!  Finally, he confesses that there was an "issue" in the room.  He had no problem finishing but he had a lot of trouble getting his specimen into the cup. Apparently it shot across the room and he had to get it off the floor.  LOL.  He had to go back and do it again.

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  • I know my DH must feel this way, but he's never said anything.  We did an embryo adoption, so there weren't even any cups involved and he wasn't in the room when they were inserted.  At least he was involved with shoving a needle in a$$ twice a day for 12 weeks!
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  • Ohhhh.  I'm so sorry that he is feeling this way (and therefore, you're feeling sh!tty).  IF is the gift that keeps on giving....ugh.

    I have no words of advice...except just keep focusing on all the positive (that both boys are here, that he is a rockstar dad, etc.).  And honestly, I'm sure he's totally not thinking this is all a big deal.

    GL.

  • Ditto the pp who said their DH only came to 1 appt.   I felt very alone (gave myself all my shots, went to all the blood draws, etc. etc.)  IF sucks. 

    There are days I think both of us feel there is a part of the conception/delivery etc. missing.... first, our infertility.... then having the girls 8 weeks early.  I began in stirrups...and I ended in stirrups in an emergency.  Our girls were never "placed on my chest"...or held by us... they were whisked off to a NICU for 5 hellish weeks.  This is when I felt my DH pull away...so to speak.  He couldn't handle the NICU time. 

    He is an awesome Daddy and very hands on at home.  He loves the girls more than anything.  I think men feel the IF too.  They just don't word things well.  ((Hugs))

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