Brandon Davies and BYU's Honor Code

kehgirl

So ladies, what do you think of this?  I heard today on the radio that Mr. Davies' suspension was because he violated the honor code by having sex.  I'm curious to know how everyone feels about this story.

Do you think he should be suspended?

Is this an enforceable rule?

Should he have lied?

I'm sure plenty of kids at BYU are having sex and it sucks that he is getting in trouble for breaking the rules and subsequently hurting his school's chance at the national title.  I guess rules are rules and I'm glad that the school isn't playing favorites because he's an athlete but c'mon.  Begs the question- why would he admit to having sex?  Unless they taped it, how would they know? 

I'm sure glad I didn't go to that school! LOL

kcl22

I'm against abstinence until marriage; I think it's healthy to explore your sexuality and make sure that you and your partner are compatible before committing to a life long union.  I wouldn't look down on someone who chose to wait but I don't think it's very realistic.

That said, he knew the rules when he applied.  If he couldn't live by them he should have gone somewhere else.

THAT said, I don't think it's an enforceable rule.  And one's sex life is no one else's business.

KoalaBear103

While I think some of the rules of the "honor code" are dumb, he went there knowing that he would need to follow it. He knew the consequences.

MyBdayPresent

I mostly just lurk but find this a really interesting topic.  I grew up LDS and no, you don't have to be Mormon to attend BYU and unless they had an amazing program in your chosen field of study or you got a sports scholarship I don't know why someone who is not mormon would attend.  That said I think he should be punished because he knew what he was signing up for.  However, I don't think his sex life is anyone elses business.  I wonder how this information came to light?  I mean did he just start blabbing his mouth about it, did his partner?  This kind of reminds me when the mormon girl on The Real World got kicked out for co-habitation with men.

kcl22

MyBdayPresent:

I mostly just lurk but find this a really interesting topic.  I grew up LDS and no, you don't have to be Mormon to attend BYU and unless they had an amazing program in your chosen field of study or you got a sports scholarship I don't know why someone who is not mormon would attend.  That said I think he should be punished because he knew what he was signing up for.  However, I don't think his sex life is anyone elses business.  I wonder how this information came to light?  I mean did he just start blabbing his mouth about it, did his partner?  This kind of reminds me when the mormon girl on The Real World got kicked out for co-habitation with men.

Off topic; I HATED Julie but New Orleans was a great season

kehgirl

MyBdayPresent:

I mostly just lurk but find this a really interesting topic.  I grew up LDS and no, you don't have to be Mormon to attend BYU and unless they had an amazing program in your chosen field of study or you got a sports scholarship I don't know why someone who is not mormon would attend.  That said I think he should be punished because he knew what he was signing up for.  However, I don't think his sex life is anyone elses business.  I wonder how this information came to light?  I mean did he just start blabbing his mouth about it, did his partner?  This kind of reminds me when the mormon girl on The Real World got kicked out for co-habitation with men.

... to be in one of the nation's top basketball programs.

and, DENY DENY DENY!  Like Bill Clinton.  LOL

mrsashby

Of course it's an enforceable rule.  He signed a contract agreeing to the honor code.  The honor code is part of a larger LDS practice of the "Word of Wisdom" saying that you will abstain from alchohol, tobacco, tea and coffee among other things.

I'm also willing to bet that most students attending BYU who are unmarried are NOT having sex.  Remaining chaste until marriage is a MAJOR part of the LDS faith.  It's not just something you are told not to do.  It's a major big deal to be un chaste.  It's a private school supported by the LDS chuch-they have every right to enforce the honor code.

mrsashby

amy052006:

Is he Mormon himself? 

I ask because I doubt he is the first athlete recruited to a D1 program who was basically told by school officials that the rules don't apply to him.  

Not that that makes it right, but it happens all the time.  Universities have no problem creating a second set of rules if it means money in the door for them.  I woudn't be shocked if someone at BYU told him it was ok to have sex.

Pretty sure it was made very clear to him the rules DO apply. I say this becuase my husband and many of his family members attented BYU.  I lived in SLC for a while and learned quite a bit about LDS culture and BYU is certainly a part of that.  My husband is LDS as well.  He says that atheletes get suspended every year for this reason-but for some reason they are making a big deal (newswise) out of this guy.

kehgirl

mrsashby:

amy052006:

Is he Mormon himself? 

I ask because I doubt he is the first athlete recruited to a D1 program who was basically told by school officials that the rules don't apply to him.  

Not that that makes it right, but it happens all the time.  Universities have no problem creating a second set of rules if it means money in the door for them.  I woudn't be shocked if someone at BYU told him it was ok to have sex.

Pretty sure it was made very clear to him the rules DO apply. I say this becuase my husband and many of his family members attented BYU.  I lived in SLC for a while and learned quite a bit about LDS culture and BYU is certainly a part of that.  My husband is LDS as well.  He says that atheletes get suspended every year for this reason-but for some reason they are making a big deal (newswise) out of this guy.

Its a big deal because BYU basketball was #3 in the country.  Playing for a 1 seed in the tournament.