HI Ladies! I?ve been lurking on these boards for the past few weeks and am looking for advice/feedback.
Here?s a brief history:
? TTC for 2 years- me 31, DH 37
? First diagnosed with MFI-antisperm antibodies
? 3 IUI?s- all BFN
? Diagnosed with DOR- due to my response to injectable IUI?s (highest day 3 FSH 9.6 /E2- 110)
? IVF #1 (7/10) produced 6 follicles, retrieved 4 eggs only 2 mature which stopped dividing at 4 cells. Had nothing to transfer.
We went in for a follow-up appointment with the RE a few weeks ago and he indicated that not only do I have DOR but also an egg quality issue. He said we have a slim chance of this working with my eggs and suggested donor egg. This is really hard for me to accept given that I am 31 and otherwise healthy. We have no insurance coverage for IVF and don?t have an endless supply of cash and really only have enough $$ to pursue one more option at this time. Part of me thinks I should just go the donor egg route given that the success is higher but another part of me thinks that if we used a different protocol maybe we could get different results with my eggs. I?m so torn about this and I don?t want to regret my decision. Any advice or similar stories out there?
Re: New to the boards-some background and asking for advice
TTC in 2008. Stage II/III endo, Hashimotos hypothyroid, low morph (3%).
2 cycles Clomid/Ovidrel/TI/Crinone=BFN.
IUI #1 - 4 Follistim/Ovidrel/IUI/Crinone = BFN.
IVF #1 - Antagonist w/ ICSI 4/10. 17 retrieved, 5DT of 2, BFN
IVF #2 - Long Lupron w/ ICSI 6/10. 15 retrieved, 3DT of 2, BFFN!!
Lap 7/21/10
IVF #3 - Clomid/Antagonist w/ ICSI 10/10. 14 retreived, 3DT of 3, BFP 10/20 but m/c. No HB 11/15/10 - D&C 11/17/10.
FET - 2 blasts, 1 survived the thaw. Transfer 2/19. Beta #1 3/1 375, Beta #2 3/3 885, Beta #3 3/8 4261, Beta #4 3/11 9005. U/S 3/8 1 sac 1 yolk, U/S 3/16 1 heartbeat 114bpm!
James born Oct. 24th 2011 via c-section at 38 weeks!
Surprise BFP - Jack born April 28, 2013 via VBAC after PTL at 33 1/2 weeks!
Definitely get a second, even third, opinion! I wouldn't cycle again with a doctor who felt that DE was my only option after only one IVF cycle.
An FSH of 9.6 is on the high end of normal, but it's still within a normal range. Find another RE!!!
GL!!
TTC since October 2007 DX: MFI
#1 & #2: Fall 2009 - 2 rounds of Clomid - BFN's
#3: April 2010: IVF w/ ICSI - BFP but then....blighted ovum, D&C 5/26/10
#4: 8/27/10 - FET = BFN
#5: FET #2 - 10/28/10, 2 embryos... BFN
#6: IVF w/ ICSI & AH ER 3/5/2011; 6-day trx 2 blasts 3/11 BFP!!! HB @ 6weeks but it was gone a few days later. D&C 4/8/11
#7: IVF w/ ICSI & AH ER 8/29/11; 6 day trx 2 blasts, BFP!! (3 totsicles too) HB seen at 7 weeks, but was gone at 8.5 weeks. D&C 10/14/11 HEARTBROKEN!!
#8 FET - 4/6/12, 1 embryo.....
**** SAIFW ****
I agree. I have a similar situation going on at age 34 and I figure that people like you and me have all the time in the world to do DE. (If and when you look into it, there are shared risk programs out there) I would get a second opinion. Even if the second doc has the same opinion (like mine did) you will feel much better knowing the hand you and DH are playing with.
Welcome to the board!
I'm sorry for what you've been through - I know how hard having nothing to transfer is. I agree with pps though, you should definitely seek a second opinion. I'm at the point where I'm making the decision whether or not to use DE, but I've been through quite a few IVF cycles. It is true that DE always has the highest success rate (that's true for anyone really), so it's just how many IF treatments with your own eggs do you want to go through/can afford (so hard that money plays into this). But if you are not ready you should definitely get a second opinion.
Good luck!
Early loss 10/08
Lap 1/09
IVF #1 "natural IVF" - 1 egg retrieved, missed m/c
Tried several mini-stim cycles with no response
Switched clinics - dx'd as carrier for Fragile X
IVF #2 MDL protocol Jan/Feb converted to IUI, BFN
IVF #2 take 2: Antagonist, one embie, BFN
IVF #3: Antagonist, no fertilization
One last ditch effort at OE IVF (antagonist with Clomid) cancelled
DE cycle #1 Jan/Feb 2011, BFP, ectopic
DE cycle #2 June/July 2011 - BFP
10/28/11 Baby girl lost at 17 weeks due to pre-term labor. We love and miss you.
DE cycle #3 June/July 2012 - BFP, twins, both heartbeats stopped, D&C
2 frosties but don't know what's next
FET Dec 2012: BFP! Praying this one sticks for the long haul!
beta#1 3/21 (14dp3dt)=413, beta#2 3/23 (16dp3dt)=785, u/s 4/11
EDD 11/25/12
**SAIFW**
I agree with PPS who suggested a second (or third) opinion. If I was in your shoes, I would definitely at least get a phone consult at CCRM to hear their ideas (You can always take what they say to another RE.)
I would also post on PAIF to see what protocols worked for ladies in similar situations. I might be wrong, but I think Nikinikinine was dx DOR and is now pregnant with twins without using a donor. I think there are others too.
Good luck!!!
Unexplained Infertility
After two Clomid cycles, three injectable IUI cycles, two IVFs, two miscarriages, and one lap surgery, IVF #2 has brought us our little boy!
TTC #2
After months of being postponed or cancelled, FET #1.3 (Natural FET) brought us twin girls!
Ditto...
Welcome and good luck.
I'm sorry, I don't have any advice for you. Just wanted to say, Hello and Welcome to the board!!!!
Hope your stay is short and good luck!!!!
7 IUIs = All BFNs
2011: March IVF #1.2 = e/p @ 6w: May IVF #2 = BFN: July sFET #1 = BFN
2012: Jan We're Certified FC/A Parents
May IVF #3 = c/p
June-Nov Foster Mommy to M (Toddler)
July FET #2 = BFN
Aug FET #3 = BFN
Sept-Nov Foster Mommy to Baby Bella (Newborn)
Nov HSG/Sono = Clear!
Dec FET #4 = BFN
2013: Feb FET #5 = m/c @ 6.5w
May-July Foster Mom to H (8 yr old girl)
June/July/Aug IVF #4 = Freeze All
July = Unofficially Adopting T (10 yr old boy)
Sept FET #6 = TBD
**PAIF/SAIF Welcome**
I need closure before moving to DE. I will be doing one more cycle with my own eggs before doing DE. I am trying Estrogen Priming Protocol which is said to help improve egg quality. I did get pregnant doing EPP, only to m/c right away.
I totally understand the odds game. It is hard getting geared up for IVF when I only have a 25% chance of success with my own eggs and could have 70% chance of success with DE. But I am getting to a point where the failed IVF cycles are wearing me down.
I would definitely consider a second opinion and an RE that is good with DOR.
Good luck!
Patchen 30- I live in Michigana and am going to the clinic here with the best stats for the state. I really do like my RE but I also know he's really into stats. I'm going to make an appointment with another RE in my area also. Do you know about how much a consult costs at somewhere like CCRM? If I've had my AMH tested I've never been given the results.
Stuckinthemiddle- are you considering DE now?
Octbride- congrats on the twins! If you don?t mind me asking, how many IVF?s did you go through before your BFP and what protocol did you use?
Njohnson- I completely agree. I feel worn down after 1 IVF. Good luck on your next cycle!
Thanks everyone for the feedback and warm welcomes!