Trouble TTC

Well THAT was disappointing... (long)

I'm pretty sure this cycle is a bust...what with my ever dropping temps. Hell, the Clomid even shortened my LP by a few days.

I know I have a lot of open circles...most of that was due to me waking up an hour before I normally temp (which to me usually doesn't make much of a difference) or my DH waking me up through the night. Either way, its bottomed out...and I've started cramping and getting a decreased appetite which always means AF is on her way.

My new plan is to do whatever it takes to get them to lower my TSH levels. I think I will go ahead with one more Clomid cycle...but we'll see how I feel come my next appointment.

But I know I want my TSH lower...and I've been researching and do have many of the symptoms. Plus it causes no or weak ovulation so it makes sense to me if they fix this hormonal imbalance maybe everything else would fix on its own.

Does that sound like a good plan? If they refuse to put me on medication...or bring my number down to between a 1 - 3 (mine's a 6.7 if you don't remember) I'm telling them I'm not doing any further treatment until its fixed. And if the RE office won't fix it, I'll go to my GP! This is MY body! I should have a say so in what is done to it. And really, should I be getting pregnant with a TSH that is clearly out of whack? I'm afraid that will cause problems of its own during pregnancy. ::sigh::

I'm so sorry to be long winded. I've just got a million emotions running through me right now (the main two being mad and upset) and I just needed to get some things off my chest.
::sigh::

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**TTC since 04/09, C/P 02/02/10; 4 weeks, 3 days**
**Dx: Anovulation, Hypothryroidism, Mild Endo, Pituitary Adenoma (prolactin issues), PAI-1, MFI **

**7/10: Clomid + TI= BFN**
**3/2/11: 1st RE appointment**
**DH= Morph= 2%, Motility= 30%**
**HSG= All clear!!**
**3/11: Femara + Pregnyl + TI= BFN**
**5/17/11: Laparoscopy / hysteroscopy = mild endo**
**7/11: Novarel + IUI #1= BFN (7mil, 75% motility, 2% morph)**
**8/11: Femara + Novarel + IUI #2= BFN (11mil, 35% motility, 1% morph)**
**11/11: Femara + Novarel + IUI #3= BFN (9mil, 2% morph)**
**Jan 2012: Follistim (75ius) + IUI #4= CANCELLED due to cyst -put on bcp**
**Feb 2012: Follistim (75ius) + Novarel + IUI #4.2= BFFN (2.5mil, 13% motility, 1% morph)**
**Mar 2012: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5= CANCELLED due to 35mm & 14mm cysts**
**On med break indefinitely...IF Sucks!**

**Jan 2013: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.2= CANCELLED due to high prolactin level, MRI scheduled, pituitary adenoma found, put on Dostinex**
**Mar 2013: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.3= CANCELLED due to uterine polyp, surgery scheduled for polypectomy and D&C**
**03/22/13: Hysteroscopy, polypectomy and D&C**
**May 2013: Finally got to start a cycle!!! Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.4 = BFFN (6mil, 74% motility, 2% morph)** 

**Jun 2013: Decide to start IVF**
IVF w/ICSI #1 (Long Lupron Protocol)
06/26/13: Start BCPs
07/02/13: HSG #2= all clear
07/15/13: Start Lupron 10 ius
07/25/13: Suppression check
07/28/13: Start stims (225IUs Follistim + 75IUs Menopur) drop to 5 IUs Lupron
08/01/13: Monitoring: 12 follicles all about 10mm, E2- 313
08/04/13: Monitoring: 18 follicles (15mm, 13mm, a few 11mm, rest 10mm or below) E2- 1,505
Start Augmentin- antibiotic prep
08/06/13: Monitoring: 13 follicles (18mm, 17mm, rest b/w 15mm-16mm!) Ready to trigger!! E2- 2,248
08/08/13: ER-- 14R, 13M, 10F 
08/11/13: One fertilized late, we now have 11 embryos!
08/13/13: 5dt-- 2 blasts (Sheldon and Penny) 3AA and 3BB, none to freeze
8/23/13: BFFN... Sheldon and Penny didn't stick**

**8/29/13: Follow up... bad fragmentation issues. Changing protocol to Antagonist for round #2 coming soon! Also started on 81mg Aspirin after getting blood panel done and found out I have PAI-1**

**Oct 2013: After large cysts, finally starting IVF #2**
IVF w/ICSI #2 (Antagonist Protocol)
BCPs started back in Sept due to cysts
10/27/13: Start stims (225 IUs Gonal-F + 75 IUs Menopur)
11/03/13 - 11/05/13: Add Ganirelix to the mix
11/06/13: 3 follicles at 18mm-- Ready to trigger!
11/08/13: ER-- 17R, 13M, 8F
11/13/13: 5dt-- 2 blasts (Luke and Leia) 5AB and 4AB, 1 frostie
11/20/13- 11/23/13: light positives on FRERs and Wondofos
11/22/13: BFN per RE office (under HCG of 10)
11/27/13: CP ::sigh::

*12/03/13: Follow up...great response and quality this time, was given 50% chance of it working, just didn't stick. Great plan for 2014! 

**Jan 2014: Last IVF of our SRP**
IVF w/ICSI, freeze all, then FET
12/27/13: Start BCPs
01/19/14: Stims (375 IUs Gonal-F + 75 IUs Menopur)

Congratulations Cutebride!! --TWINS!! Congratulations, Luvie, on your sweet boy! Congrats, Jess! So happy for you ladies! <3<3  
~~Also best of luck to Kati, illinigal, and youngin!~~

*S/PAIFW*

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Re: Well THAT was disappointing... (long)

  • Ugh.  I'm so sorry.  I would definitely take charge about getting your TSH under control.  Mine was 4.5 when it was initially tested at the RE and they put me on meds right away.  It still raised, twice, up to 6.7, before we found the right one to keep it below 2.

    You don't want to spend the time and money for another medicated cycle if your TSH is the thing that's making everything out of whack. 

    And if it makes you feel any better, I feel the same exact way today.  BFN and cramps. IF sucks.

  • (((((hugs)))))  Sweetie, I am so, so sorry!!!  This is so disappointing.  I was so hoping this would by the cycle for you.  I don't even know what to say.  I guess the sliver of good news is that the clomid made you ovulate and much earlier than normal.  I don't think the shortened LP is bad either.  Having it at 17 days just drags out your cycle longer than it needs to be. 

    I do agree that getting your TSH under control is very important.  It needs to be a priority and hopefully that RE willl see that.  I know you love your other dr's so maybe your OB or GP can work with you if the RE won't.  Of course, if that is the case, I would look into checking out that other RE. 

    Again, hon, I am so, so sorry.  I was really hoping that things would be different for this cycle.  I'm here for you if you need to talk later.  More ((((hugs))))   

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  • I'm so sorry. I agree you should insist on bringing your TSH down. When my RE first tested me, I was a 3.5 (which isn't even that high), but she insisted I go on a low does of synthroid to get it under 3. Good luck.
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  • I so sorry about the BFN! As for the TSH if you're RE refuses to fix it then you need a new RE. It is your body and it's up to you what treatment you want and what steps you want to take. My RE would never ignore my TSH and he would never make me do something I didn't feel comfortable with.

    On the up side your whole cycle is much shorter... Huge hugs babe!! 

  • (((hugs))) sweetie.  I'm so sorry :(

    I do think that sounds like a good plan and it can be done.  You don't have far to go!

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  • ::hugs Zookie::

    You are already a selfless mom, girl. You are ready to take those steps that you need to and have that healthy baby you deserve. I'm glad you are taking control! Let us know how it goes!

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    FET #1- 3BB and 3B-B
    Beta #1 (4w0d)- 504
    Beta #2 (4w4d)- 4,577
    Beta #3 (6w0d)- 78,399 HB 115 bpm
    U/S #2 7w0d- HB 155 bpm

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  • Sorry to hear, but I agree with the others. You should try and get that TSH lowered, and hopefully everything else will fall into place! Keeping you in my thoughts!
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  • You're your best advocate! You're right, it is your body! I am sorry, I hope things get sorted out for you!
  • Thanks ladies! I've been a crabby cry baby today and hadn't really wanted to get back online, but I'm glad I did b/c you all made me feel better.

    Cutebride, I almost called you this morning...but I was in such crying hysterics you wouldn't have understood anything I was saying! I may call tomorrow night after work if I get a chance, you always make me feel better. ((hugs))

    Mari, yes, I do agree it is a good thing my cycle is much shorter...hard to be happy about right now, but I do know its a good thing! I'm still holding out hope for you dear! Oh and I didn't get a BFN, I saw the drop and decided not to waste a test. I haven't started bleeding yet so I'm expecting it tomorrow...

    Thanks, ladies for you love and support, it means a lot! xoxo

    New to 3T? Check out this website first:
    TroubleTTC

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    Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end --Semisonic

    **TTC since 04/09, C/P 02/02/10; 4 weeks, 3 days**
    **Dx: Anovulation, Hypothryroidism, Mild Endo, Pituitary Adenoma (prolactin issues), PAI-1, MFI **

    **7/10: Clomid + TI= BFN**
    **3/2/11: 1st RE appointment**
    **DH= Morph= 2%, Motility= 30%**
    **HSG= All clear!!**
    **3/11: Femara + Pregnyl + TI= BFN**
    **5/17/11: Laparoscopy / hysteroscopy = mild endo**
    **7/11: Novarel + IUI #1= BFN (7mil, 75% motility, 2% morph)**
    **8/11: Femara + Novarel + IUI #2= BFN (11mil, 35% motility, 1% morph)**
    **11/11: Femara + Novarel + IUI #3= BFN (9mil, 2% morph)**
    **Jan 2012: Follistim (75ius) + IUI #4= CANCELLED due to cyst -put on bcp**
    **Feb 2012: Follistim (75ius) + Novarel + IUI #4.2= BFFN (2.5mil, 13% motility, 1% morph)**
    **Mar 2012: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5= CANCELLED due to 35mm & 14mm cysts**
    **On med break indefinitely...IF Sucks!**

    **Jan 2013: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.2= CANCELLED due to high prolactin level, MRI scheduled, pituitary adenoma found, put on Dostinex**
    **Mar 2013: Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.3= CANCELLED due to uterine polyp, surgery scheduled for polypectomy and D&C**
    **03/22/13: Hysteroscopy, polypectomy and D&C**
    **May 2013: Finally got to start a cycle!!! Follistim (100ius) + IUI #5.4 = BFFN (6mil, 74% motility, 2% morph)** 

    **Jun 2013: Decide to start IVF**
    IVF w/ICSI #1 (Long Lupron Protocol)
    06/26/13: Start BCPs
    07/02/13: HSG #2= all clear
    07/15/13: Start Lupron 10 ius
    07/25/13: Suppression check
    07/28/13: Start stims (225IUs Follistim + 75IUs Menopur) drop to 5 IUs Lupron
    08/01/13: Monitoring: 12 follicles all about 10mm, E2- 313
    08/04/13: Monitoring: 18 follicles (15mm, 13mm, a few 11mm, rest 10mm or below) E2- 1,505
    Start Augmentin- antibiotic prep
    08/06/13: Monitoring: 13 follicles (18mm, 17mm, rest b/w 15mm-16mm!) Ready to trigger!! E2- 2,248
    08/08/13: ER-- 14R, 13M, 10F 
    08/11/13: One fertilized late, we now have 11 embryos!
    08/13/13: 5dt-- 2 blasts (Sheldon and Penny) 3AA and 3BB, none to freeze
    8/23/13: BFFN... Sheldon and Penny didn't stick**

    **8/29/13: Follow up... bad fragmentation issues. Changing protocol to Antagonist for round #2 coming soon! Also started on 81mg Aspirin after getting blood panel done and found out I have PAI-1**

    **Oct 2013: After large cysts, finally starting IVF #2**
    IVF w/ICSI #2 (Antagonist Protocol)
    BCPs started back in Sept due to cysts
    10/27/13: Start stims (225 IUs Gonal-F + 75 IUs Menopur)
    11/03/13 - 11/05/13: Add Ganirelix to the mix
    11/06/13: 3 follicles at 18mm-- Ready to trigger!
    11/08/13: ER-- 17R, 13M, 8F
    11/13/13: 5dt-- 2 blasts (Luke and Leia) 5AB and 4AB, 1 frostie
    11/20/13- 11/23/13: light positives on FRERs and Wondofos
    11/22/13: BFN per RE office (under HCG of 10)
    11/27/13: CP ::sigh::

    *12/03/13: Follow up...great response and quality this time, was given 50% chance of it working, just didn't stick. Great plan for 2014! 

    **Jan 2014: Last IVF of our SRP**
    IVF w/ICSI, freeze all, then FET
    12/27/13: Start BCPs
    01/19/14: Stims (375 IUs Gonal-F + 75 IUs Menopur)

    Congratulations Cutebride!! --TWINS!! Congratulations, Luvie, on your sweet boy! Congrats, Jess! So happy for you ladies! <3<3  
    ~~Also best of luck to Kati, illinigal, and youngin!~~

    *S/PAIFW*

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