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3T experts please come in! (I have some testing results) *edited*

So, I posted the other day about my HSG being canceled, because my doc was MIA and no one could find him. Well, I went in this morning before work and found out I was having an SHG instead. As I was waiting on the table, half naked the lights go out and they are not coming back on.... I was like G-d help give me the stregnth not to kill someone in this office if I have to reschedule this again! Then the lights finally came back after about 20 minutes, phew, crisis averted.

Anywho, here are the results I have so far...

CD3 b/w-
FSH: 5.5
Estradiol:44

CD3 u/s-
- 12+ follies on each side
- A cyst on my left side, I believe

SHG-
- All looks clear
- 18.5 sized follie on my left side
- Few other larger ones on both sides, but not as big as the 18.5 one
- Doc said he thinks he sees some tissue in there, but didn't sound too concerned (I wonder why??)

S/A Results- the ones I have so far
- Morphology: 0%
- Motility: 28%
- Count: 40 mill

I have to wait a whole 2 weeks before I can meet with my doc to discuss all the test results. What do you girls think of my results??? What do you think they will suggest?? Any other info would be helpful as I am TOTALLY inpatient.

Also, the tech said she thought I would be Oing in the next 2-3 days.... I was like whhaaatt?? I never O that early. Which makes me think that maybe my body is delaying O and my eggs are going bad then, lol, IDK what do you think??

EDITED: Okay, I just called and spoke to the nurse about the follicle/cyst debacle. She said on CD 3 the cyst was on my left side and was 23. She said that the 18.5 one is not likely a cyst due to the shape and that it is fluid filled (appears as a black hole on the u/s). Soooo, maybe I will O soon. She also said that every cycle your body creates a "cyst" and that is what tells the body to continue to make progesterone to support the pregnancy. So maybe my eggs get large and I produce large cysts every month, does that sound right???

 

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Re: 3T experts please come in! (I have some testing results) *edited*

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    Are these results from today (CD11) or from CD3? I'm not an expert by any means - but 12+ follies sounds like a lot for CD3?

    As for the S/A, I think those numbers are on the low side. I think anything over 4% morph (strict) is considered normal.

     Good luck :)

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  • Ok I will try!

    CD3 b/w-
    FSH: 5.5 I think this is good too!
    Estradiol:44 Normal is below 50 on CD3

    CD3 u/s-
    - 12+ follies on each side Good amount of follies to start with
    - A cyst on my left side, I believe if this was an issue they would tell you right away. Might be small

    SHG-
    - All looks clear great
    - 18.5 sized follie on my left side this could be the cyst they saw or yes you could be Oing soon.
    - Few other larger ones on both sides, but not as big as the 18.5 one
    - Doc said he thinks he sees some tissue in there, but didn't sound too concerned (I wonder why??) It might not be in a bad place

    I suck with the SA's but I will try... So don't quote me on it.

    S/A Results- the ones I have so far
    - Morphology: 0% this is not ideal I think they want 5% depends don't quote me
    - Motility: 28% This is ok I think
    - Count: 40 mill this is ok

     

    It sucks that you have to wait that long, but they might ask for another SA. Everything for the most part looks ok. Ask how big that cyst was on CD3 I bet you that 18.5mm might be the cyst.

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    Are these results from today (CD11) or from CD3? I'm not an expert by any means - but 12+ follies sounds like a lot for CD3?

    As for the S/A, I think those numbers are on the low side. I think anything over 4% morph (strict) is considered normal.

     Good luck :)

    No it's not a lot, I started with 20 and only 4 matured.

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    Your CD-3 results look pretty rockstar to me. My OB said that an FSH level of 5.5 is really dang good. 

    The SA results aren't great. Morphology on a strict scale should be above 4%. Motility, according to our lab reference sheet, should be above 50%. I wouldn't look into it too much yet since you really need more than one SA to confirm MFI.



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    Ok I will try!

    CD3 b/w-
    FSH: 5.5 I think this is good too!
    Estradiol:44 Normal is below 50 on CD3

    CD3 u/s-
    - 12+ follies on each side Good amount of follies to start with
    - A cyst on my left side, I believe if this was an issue they would tell you right away. Might be small

    SHG-
    - All looks clear great
    - 18.5 sized follie on my left side this could be the cyst they saw or yes you could be Oing soon.
    - Few other larger ones on both sides, but not as big as the 18.5 one
    - Doc said he thinks he sees some tissue in there, but didn't sound too concerned (I wonder why??) It might not be in a bad place

    I suck with the SA's but I will try... So don't quote me on it.

    S/A Results- the ones I have so far
    - Morphology: 0% this is not ideal I think they want 5% depends don't quote me
    - Motility: 28% This is ok I think
    - Count: 40 mill this is ok

     

    It sucks that you have to wait that long, but they might ask for another SA. Everything for the most part looks ok. Ask how big that cyst was on CD3 I bet you that 18.5mm might be the cyst.

    mari, I think you migh be right! I didn't want to put the idea in anyones head when I was asking the questions, but that is what I was thinking the whole time. I wish I could think of this stuff fast enought to say it during the tests, crap, I hate that I am so slow on geting my questions out, lol.

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  • imagegmc222:

    Are these results from today (CD11) or from CD3? I'm not an expert by any means - but 12+ follies sounds like a lot for CD3?

    As for the S/A, I think those numbers are on the low side. I think anything over 4% morph (strict) is considered normal.

     Good luck :)

    Those results were from CD3.... I wonder if that is an issue and maybe none will become dominate, if the 18.5 one is a cyst.

    I know those S/A results a poor... Not sure what to make of them, but thank you!

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  • imageHels:

    Your CD-3 results look pretty rockstar to me. My OB said that an FSH level of 5.5 is really dang good. 

    The SA results aren't great. Morphology on a strict scale should be above 4%. Motility, according to our lab reference sheet, should be above 50%. I wouldn't look into it too much yet since you really need more than one SA to confirm MFI.

    I asked the lab tech about a repeat SA and she said they normally do not do them because even though the numbers can fluctuate a bit and they only test 100 sperm out of the whole batch, the numbers usually will not fluctuate enough to make a huge difference.Hmmm, I think I will be bringing this up to the doc at our consult. Maybe he will feel differently.

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    imagegmc222:

    Are these results from today (CD11) or from CD3? I'm not an expert by any means - but 12+ follies sounds like a lot for CD3?

    As for the S/A, I think those numbers are on the low side. I think anything over 4% morph (strict) is considered normal.

     Good luck :)

    Those results were from CD3.... I wonder if that is an issue and maybe none will become dominate, if the 18.5 one is a cyst.

    I know those S/A results a poor... Not sure what to make of them, but thank you!

    No that is normal and 1 if not more will become dominant. It's normal to start with all these little follies. I forgot what they are called too.

  • All of your results look normal/good to me!  They will probably just keep an eye on the cyst if it not too big and not in a worrisome location.

    The SA results are on the low side.  You want the motility to be over 40% and the morphology (those this number is more subjective) to be 4% or higher.

    I would def.  have DH do a repeat SA in 5 - 6 weeks (that is how long the have told us to wait in between ours) and you could have him schedule an appointment with a uroligst.

    If his numbers do not change too much my guess is that they will recommend IUI.

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  • Hello can I suggest you write up a list of your concerns...to present to the RE when you see him.

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    All of your results look normal/good to me!  They will probably just keep an eye on the cyst if it not too big and not in a worrisome location.

    The SA results are on the low side.  You want the motility to be over 40% and the morphology (those this number is more subjective) to be 4% or higher.

    I would def.  have DH do a repeat SA in 5 - 6 weeks (that is how long the have told us to wait in between ours) and you could have him schedule an appointment with a uroligst.

    If his numbers do not change too much my guess is that they will recommend IUI.

    I know, DH's results are not goodCrying And I was afraid that with 0% morph they would not even suggest IUI because the chance that any of the "irregular shaped" little guys even reach the egg I may end up with another m/c or ectopic (since I am at risk due to my appendicitis). Is that wrong? I am clearly not an expert on this topic and my have false info.

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    Hello can I suggest you write up a list of your concerns...to present to the RE when you see him.

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    Your CD-3 results look pretty rockstar to me. My OB said that an FSH level of 5.5 is really dang good. 

    The SA results aren't great. Morphology on a strict scale should be above 4%. Motility, according to our lab reference sheet, should be above 50%. I wouldn't look into it too much yet since you really need more than one SA to confirm MFI.

    I asked the lab tech about a repeat SA and she said they normally do not do them because even though the numbers can fluctuate a bit and they only test 100 sperm out of the whole batch, the numbers usually will not fluctuate enough to make a huge difference.Hmmm, I think I will be bringing this up to the doc at our consult. Maybe he will feel differently.

     

    Definitely bring it up. I think even in TCOYF it says that you should always repeat an SA and that a single bad SA should not be used for a diagnosis.  If your insurance covers it, it can't hurt to get YH an appointment with a urologist. We just did that and the first thing he said was to redo the SA with a lab he trusts.  For morphology, it really is subjective. You only have 100-200 sperm to look at and it's an individual judging how many of  them are normal looking. 



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    imageHels:

    Your CD-3 results look pretty rockstar to me. My OB said that an FSH level of 5.5 is really dang good. 

    The SA results aren't great. Morphology on a strict scale should be above 4%. Motility, according to our lab reference sheet, should be above 50%. I wouldn't look into it too much yet since you really need more than one SA to confirm MFI.

    I asked the lab tech about a repeat SA and she said they normally do not do them because even though the numbers can fluctuate a bit and they only test 100 sperm out of the whole batch, the numbers usually will not fluctuate enough to make a huge difference.Hmmm, I think I will be bringing this up to the doc at our consult. Maybe he will feel differently.

     

    Definitely bring it up. I think even in TCOYF it says that you should always repeat an SA and that a single bad SA should not be used for a diagnosis.  If your insurance covers it, it can't hurt to get YH an appointment with a urologist. We just did that and the first thing he said was to redo the SA with a lab he trusts.  For morphology, it really is subjective. You only have 100-200 sperm to look at and it's an individual judging how many of  them are normal looking. 

    Duly noted!! I will def do this, especially since our insurance does not cover infertility at all. So I will ask for a repeat or 2 before they diagnose us with MFI. Thanks for your help!

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  • Your CD3 b/w is good.  I'm not sure about the cyst or follies.  Your H's SA is low, but your dr will prob order another SA.  Count - anything over 15 mil is normal.  Morph - anything over 3% is over.  Motility - anything over 40% is normal.  Check out this article:  https://infertilityblog.blogspot.com/

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    Your CD3 b/w is good.  I'm not sure about the cyst or follies.  Your H's SA is low, but your dr will prob order another SA.  Count - anything over 15 mil is normal.  Morph - anything over 3% is over.  Motility - anything over 40% is normal.  Check out this article:  https://infertilityblog.blogspot.com/

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  • Yup, the amount of follies is great. Like PP said, you'll have like 1-2 mature noramlly. Fertility drugs will mature more (if/when you get there).

    You are in the same morph boat as me. When you go to an RE, they will def suggest some procedure with that morph. My RE said IUI with injects and IVF.

    You DEF need a second SA. If they don't get you one, just have YH go and you pay for it. The next SA is going to determine everything. MH SA was about $150 (mostly lab) to give you an estimate.

     

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    Yup, the amount of follies is great. Like PP said, you'll have like 1-2 mature noramlly. Fertility drugs will mature more (if/when you get there).

    You are in the same morph boat as me. When you go to an RE, they will def suggest some procedure with that morph. My RE said IUI with injects and IVF.

    You DEF need a second SA. If they don't get you one, just have YH go and you pay for it. The next SA is going to determine everything. MH SA was about $150 (mostly lab) to give you an estimate.


     

    Thanks BB!! I think my RE will probably tell me the same as you, but  know IVF is out for us since we are OOP. That makes me sad Crying But we will see once we talk to him. I love that there are so many Chicago gals on this board!! We should all do a GTG sometime!

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    imageBBColt78:

    Yup, the amount of follies is great. Like PP said, you'll have like 1-2 mature noramlly. Fertility drugs will mature more (if/when you get there).

    You are in the same morph boat as me. When you go to an RE, they will def suggest some procedure with that morph. My RE said IUI with injects and IVF.

    You DEF need a second SA. If they don't get you one, just have YH go and you pay for it. The next SA is going to determine everything. MH SA was about $150 (mostly lab) to give you an estimate.


     

    Thanks BB!! I think my RE will probably tell me the same as you, but  know IVF is out for us since we are OOP. That makes me sad Crying But we will see once we talk to him. I love that there are so many Chicago gals on this board!! We should all do a GTG sometime!

    Yes we should, you both and Clarissa missed the last one. We should do a local one in Naperville or something...

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    imageMaMaSiBs:
    imageBBColt78:

    Yup, the amount of follies is great. Like PP said, you'll have like 1-2 mature noramlly. Fertility drugs will mature more (if/when you get there).

    You are in the same morph boat as me. When you go to an RE, they will def suggest some procedure with that morph. My RE said IUI with injects and IVF.

    You DEF need a second SA. If they don't get you one, just have YH go and you pay for it. The next SA is going to determine everything. MH SA was about $150 (mostly lab) to give you an estimate.


     

    Thanks BB!! I think my RE will probably tell me the same as you, but  know IVF is out for us since we are OOP. That makes me sad Crying But we will see once we talk to him. I love that there are so many Chicago gals on this board!! We should all do a GTG sometime!

    Yes we should, you both and Clarissa missed the last one. We should do a local one in Naperville or something...

    LOVE that idea!!! Lets plan it!

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