I am at my wits end. Kamille will NOT go to sleep with out being rocked or just being touched. I can lay her down in her crib and sometimes she'll go to sleep depending on how long I rocked her, other times her head pops up right away and she tries to stand up. I always lay her back down and just rub her back. She'll stay down if I rub her back until she falls asleep but if I quit to soon then she pops her head up again and it's like I have to start all over. Some nights it's 45 mins.+ for me to get her to sleep.
I need to stop this and I don't know how. I've tried just letting her CIO but she stands in her crib and literally just screams forever, so I end up going back in and laying her back down in her crib and rubbing her back until she goes to sleep. It's wearing me out.
Help me. How do you get your LO's to sleep? Do I just need to let her CIO until she does stop? She gets so worked up though that I end up going back in there. I really don't know what to do.

Re: help me ~ sleep issues
We used the book The No Cry Sleep Solution, (well, in a modified way). I would at least read one of the "sleep training" books, even Ferber (he has good insights and you don't have to follow his plan) to get some ideas of what is going on and how to cope.
Learning more about sleep patterns, rhythms, and training really helped us. Not to say it was easy--we eventually did the CIO thing and it totally worked for us, but you will find some techniques that work for you that works.
And check them out from the library. We spent WAY too much money on some other books that we never used at all.
Good luck!
For us the keys are consistency (as far as how you put her down, what you do when she cries, etc.) and timing. If we try to put him to bed too early or late, or his nap schedule is off, then he'll fight tooth and nail when it's time to go to bed!
Also, when he's sick or teething, it's always tricky
For us though we've found that his "schedule" (I use that term very very loosely) is really the key.
I highly recommend reading this book. It's really helped us.
We usually nurse and sometimes she falls asleep while nursing other times I think she's asleep and then I try to put her down and that's when it starts. Am I wrong to be working toward being able to put her down awake sometimes and her be able to self-soothe? I mean I can always get her to sleep if I just rock her, but I'm trying to get out of that habit, so I guess that's my question... should I be working to get out of that habit?
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I guess that's up to you!
We don't want to be committed to rocking him to sleep every night, but it doesn't hurt anything if you don't mind doing it. I'm sure she would love it actually
With one nap it isn't uncommon that Andrew passes out during his bottle - if so we don't worry about it. If not, we lay him down drowsy but awake.
Also if he seems asleep and we lay him down and he "wakes up"...for us...that means he has a big burp. He won't lay down or stay asleep if he has a big burp. We still have to burp him very very well (multiple times) after feeding. That seems to be our biggest struggle because if we lay him down the first time and he still has a burp he won't sleep and will freak out.
Oh I'm sure she'd love it and I don't mind really but I'm thinking down the road here and trying to break a habit that may cause problems in the future if that makes sense.
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DX 2/7/13 with an alloimmunity + for anti-paternal antibodies started Lovenox daily & BA
BFP 2/16/13 EDD 10/28/13
Yep. Makes sense. You could choose to worry about it now or later. I chose now!
exactly! thanks I'll check out the books that you all recommended and hopefully something will work.
BFP #2 11/4/12 EDD 7/20/12 missed M/C 12/13/12 @8w5d D&C 12/21/12
DX 2/7/13 with an alloimmunity + for anti-paternal antibodies started Lovenox daily & BA
BFP 2/16/13 EDD 10/28/13
That book is great. There were a few things we didn't take exactly, but I love it as a reference. Seemed like the minute things changed or his sleep schedule wasn't working anymore, it helped us get right back on track.
We just went through all of this! Like literally this past week.
I had been nursing him to sleep, sometimes that wouldn't work and my husband would have to rock him to sleep. DH was rocking him to sleep much more often in recent weeks and it was taking a lot longer for him to fall asleep. So I agreed with DH that we didn't do something else.
We had the No Cry Sleep Solution and truthfully, it didn't work. If it was going to work for our son we would have spent many hours and days in his room with our hands on him and that just didn't work for us. I didn't want to do CIO but after trying other methods, we did.
If you buy Ferber's book, which we did, he doesn't suggest just letting your child CIO the entire time until they fall asleep. I think that would be nuts. So I'm confused when people on TB talk about actually leaving their child to cry endlessly. You go in and check on the child at different intervals.
It is very hard and took us over an hour the first night for him to fall asleep. If I remember correctly the next night was just as bad. Also naps were even worse for us. You really just have to stick with it. Also, remember that with naps if he isn't asleep after 30 minutes to go and get him as the nap was unsuccessful and try again later.
After just a few nights DS has done a complete 180. Nursing and rocking were huge sleep assocations for him. Now he associates getting his diaper changed and us turning on the fan as a sleep association. He will cry and fuss when we're doing those but once we put him down he's out in under 5 minutes.
I'm so glad we did it. You will be too. It doesn't come without heartache though. I cried and actually smacked the wall very hard and threw the sleep book across the room at one point. Just make sure you and your DH are totally committed and it will work.
We used to change him and every other night give him a bath and then I'd nurse. Now it's like he knows when we're changing him what's coming so he fusses. If I try to nurse after that he has no part of it. So I have to nurse before changing him and I think after learning to fall asleep on his own he doesn't feel the need to use nursing to fall asleep so he doesn't.
I actually secretly kind of miss it. But know it's for the best. It has made our life sooo much easier as I feel like I was a slave to this kid and his sleeping. Now I'm not.
I did EASY during the day so she only nursed to sleep for the night and that was after the bath. We started putting it before bath and that made things more smooth.
I was sad to see it go, but it did allow me some free "me" time in the evening so it worked for everyone.
I never even thought to nurse before bath. I may try that route too and see what happens.
BFP #2 11/4/12 EDD 7/20/12 missed M/C 12/13/12 @8w5d D&C 12/21/12
DX 2/7/13 with an alloimmunity + for anti-paternal antibodies started Lovenox daily & BA
BFP 2/16/13 EDD 10/28/13