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About the post below in re abortion.. No pics here.

FWIW that picture is of a 21 week old baby that was born the hospital I am giving birth in.

 IT IS NOT A PICTURE OF AN ABORTED BABY!

They added the picture to the abotion article to stir up emotions.

 I've seen that picture at my hospital a million times.

Re: About the post below in re abortion.. No pics here.

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    It is still very disturbing.  That post needed a disclaimer not just abortion mentioned.  If it had said Image Warning it would have been different, then you have the mindset of what you may be getting ready to see. 
    I'm so glad that we have the technology that can save a baby's life when born that early.  I've seen a 29 weeker and it was still horrifying, and she is my niece.  But thanks to a great hospital she is doing well.   

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    OMG! 21weeks and survived! That breaks my heart and fills it will happiness all at the same time.

    Wow, it's just amazing.

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    That article is absolutely amazing.  It is a miracle that a 21 week old baby has some, albeit a small chance, of survival today!
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    I'm uncertain why this was upsetting.  My MIL is a neonatal specialist.  She has lots of pictures of preemies and then pictures of them when they're older.  Their parents send them to her later, and Christmas cards and such.  I've seen several pictures of patients DH's mom had when they were just born, and then later on pictures of them as older babies.  I assumed most people had as well.  She has a photo book of them she keeps.

    If the baby is in the NICU, he/she has a decent chance at life.  I've been told they loose more older babies that come in after going home than they do preemies.  You know how to deal with them, it's harder to deal with a shaken baby or one that almost drown, they are likely already brain dead.

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    imageheatherm818:
    That article is absolutely amazing.  It is a miracle that a 21 week old baby has some, albeit a small chance, of survival today!

    If I remember, they prefer not to try to save babies before 23-24 weeks, as they have a very low statistical chance of survival.  Currently, 28 week olds have a rather high survival rate.  DH's grandma lost a baby to "prematurity" at around 35 weeks in the 50s.  When DH was born at 32-34 week, his grandma told his mom that he would likely die in a day or two.  As she's a baby specialist, she wasn't worried at all, he was home in a week or two.  Medicine has advanced dramatically.

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    imageheatherm818:
    That article is absolutely amazing.  It is a miracle that a 21 week old baby has some, albeit a small chance, of survival today!

    If I remember, they prefer not to try to save babies before 23-24 weeks, as they have a very low statistical chance of survival.  Currently, 28 week olds have a rather high survival rate.  DH's grandma lost a baby to "prematurity" at around 35 weeks in the 50s.  When DH was born at 32-34 week, his grandma told his mom that he would likely die in a day or two.  As she's a baby specialist, she wasn't worried at all, he was home in a week or two.  Medicine has advanced dramatically.

    Perhaps it varies by hospital, but the NICU my H worked in, they had to try and save every baby that was born prematurely.  They had as young as 21w and 22w.  I know they prefer not to save babies before 23-24w, but I don't think they have a choice.

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    imageNihilismKat:

    imageheatherm818:
    That article is absolutely amazing.  It is a miracle that a 21 week old baby has some, albeit a small chance, of survival today!

    If I remember, they prefer not to try to save babies before 23-24 weeks, as they have a very low statistical chance of survival.  Currently, 28 week olds have a rather high survival rate.  DH's grandma lost a baby to "prematurity" at around 35 weeks in the 50s.  When DH was born at 32-34 week, his grandma told his mom that he would likely die in a day or two.  As she's a baby specialist, she wasn't worried at all, he was home in a week or two.  Medicine has advanced dramatically.

    Perhaps it varies by hospital, but the NICU my H worked in, they had to try and save every baby that was born prematurely.  They had as young as 21w and 22w.  I know they prefer not to save babies before 23-24w, but I don't think they have a choice.

    I do believe it varies through hospital.  When we were at a Catholic hospital with ds my water had broken at 23w5d, I had to sign forms insisting that I wanted heroic measures taken to save him, if I were to deliver then.

    Until 24 weeks they didn't consider him alive and therefore without my explicit instructions to save him, they wouldn't. 

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    imagelilmgirl:
    imageNihilismKat:

    imageheatherm818:
    That article is absolutely amazing.  It is a miracle that a 21 week old baby has some, albeit a small chance, of survival today!

    If I remember, they prefer not to try to save babies before 23-24 weeks, as they have a very low statistical chance of survival.  Currently, 28 week olds have a rather high survival rate.  DH's grandma lost a baby to "prematurity" at around 35 weeks in the 50s.  When DH was born at 32-34 week, his grandma told his mom that he would likely die in a day or two.  As she's a baby specialist, she wasn't worried at all, he was home in a week or two.  Medicine has advanced dramatically.

    Perhaps it varies by hospital, but the NICU my H worked in, they had to try and save every baby that was born prematurely.  They had as young as 21w and 22w.  I know they prefer not to save babies before 23-24w, but I don't think they have a choice.

    I do believe it varies through hospital.  When we were at a Catholic hospital with ds my water had broken at 23w5d, I had to sign forms insisting that I wanted heroic measures taken to save him, if I were to deliver then.

    Until 24 weeks they didn't consider him alive and therefore without my explicit instructions to save him, they wouldn't. 

    I think it also depends on the level of NICU that they have there.  Big hospitals in large cities usually have slightly different standards.  I think MIL told me that Philly's Children's is 22 weeks, but Pittsburgh is 23-24 as a cut off.

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    imagepiecesofflare:
    It's upsetting because 2 or 3 posts down from this one that picture was falsely portrayed as an aborted 23 week old, which it isn't.  It's upsetting because it's scary to see a baby like that - clearly not ready for the outside world.

    Oh, I clicked on the link and read the article.  I though the foot note for the picture said that this was a 24 week old, as to illustrate that one could survive at that age with medical intervention, as compared to the delivered baby that they shoved in a box and threw away.  I really don't remember seeing them mention that that was an aborted baby... not that it would look like that anyhow.  Maybe it was different before?

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    imageCourtneyR2N:

    OMG! 21weeks and survived! That breaks my heart and fills it will happiness all at the same time.

    Wow, it's just amazing.

    Holy cow.  This.  Totally.

    I weep to think of what that family went through  - and with delight that their story had a happy outcome.  So many others do not.

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