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Do people really not know their leave policy?

I am always shocked by the posts where people are baffled/ disappointed when they learn about their maternity leave.

Do people really work for a company, start TTC, get pregnant, and never glance at policy?  I mean you don't have to be pregnant to talk to HR - or just read about your policy on your Company's HR website.  I get maybe being shocked during first tri when everything is more ?real? but by 2nd and 3rd tri shouldn?t you have already researched what you are given?

I guess I just don't get how people who are trying to get pregnant don't plan around what their company offers.

 

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    AMEN! or those who don't know if they have any maternity benefits with their insurance. Sweet baby jebus and all things holy.

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    There are a lot of things around TTC that I'll never understand why people don't plan better.  This is one of them.  You and me kid.
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    I don't get it either.  At all.
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    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    ETA: This was months before I had thought about TTC. I just wanted to be prepared.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

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    I'm hoping I'll get fired at the end of August. That's my leave policy.?
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    I'm glad you said this. Knowing my company's maternity leave policy was one of the FIRST things we investigated before TTC.

    But, I also know when I got pg with DD she was not planned, and so I wasn't versed on my company's maternity policy AT ALL.

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    Maternity leave policies are often very confusing and not very easy to understand. I don't know about 'planning around' what they offer - you get what they give you. It doesn't affect the decision of whether to get pregnant IMHO.
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    I think it depends on the situation.  For people who have been at their jobs for some time I totally agree with you.  In my situation my husband is working for the same company but was promoted.  Which means moving to Buffalo NY.  Because his company does their paternity/FMLA leave partly by company policy and partly by state laws we have NO idea how his leave will work, and can't seen to get any answers from anybody.  So maybe some of these people are just having an issue similar to ours.  Not all companies have it so clearly laid out.
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    I totally checked mine out months before we ttc--and when I got pregnant, I confirmed it again with them.

    And when I got pregnant again, I confirmed again that there had been no changes.

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    i didn't know my company's policy when i got pregnant with DS because i was the first employee to get pregnant. i work in areal estate - the agents are independent contractors and paid on commission. i am paid an hourly wage and actually helped write the policy that's now in effect. 

    that being said, my office is my boss, myself, and cow-irker. cow-irker and i are the only two paid employees, and she's my mother's age.

    but when i worked for larger companies, this was one of the first questions i asked. 

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    Even though I wasn't TTC when I started my job, the first thing I reviewed was their leave policy. You just never know what could happen.
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    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

    Hmm Care to explain your logic? Maybe it's just not for YOU. That being said I hope you realize that a lot of people PLAN on getting pregnant while still finishing school.

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    Maternity leave policies are often very confusing and not very easy to understand. I don't know about 'planning around' what they offer - you get what they give you. It doesn't affect the decision of whether to get pregnant IMHO.

    If you only get x weeks paid but want to take x+4 additional weeks you need to plan to cover expenses during the weeks you will be taking unpaid.  Not biitching about it b/c you didn't research and plan until half way through your pregnancy.

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    My office HR person won't talk to you until you are about half way through your pregnancy about your leave.  There is a policy on the company website but it's very vague.  She says that she's had too many instances where people start asking about it and then either leave, or have a miscarraige.  It is kind of weird though since it's definitely information you need to know in order to plan for it.  I personally had a general idea and knew that whatever the leave was we would make it work so it wasn't a big deal to me.
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    I knew my school's maternity policy before I was even married. Six weeks paid, eight with a doctor's note.
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    The issue is that FMLA only applies if you've worked xx amount of hours over the course of 12 months, if both of those don't apply, you aren't guaranteed any leave.

    When I was pg with DS I had two jobs, 1 seasonal job and 1 full-time job. i got fired from the FT job (which made quitting that much easier!) and I had to leave the seasonal job 1 month early due to complications but otherwise, I had it figured out. QUITting seems to be the most reliable maternity leave. =P 

    With this pregnancy, I am not working out of the house, so I am sooo happy that I don't have to deal with this!! But if I did, I know I always knew my company's leave policies!! 

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    I asked bout it when I was being offered this job.. 6 months before I even TTC. I had my maternity plan in writing and set by 15 weeks.

    Mostly due to a unpredictable boss and some re-structuring going on.  But.. still...

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    Well I checked and double-checked before TTC and then got pregnant right away...and then they reduced the amount of leave we get per pay period and didn't tell anyone until I went back to confirm after getting pregnant. 

    So that sucked. 

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    Maternity leave policies are often very confusing and not very easy to understand. I don't know about 'planning around' what they offer - you get what they give you. It doesn't affect the decision of whether to get pregnant IMHO.

     Hmm

    There's a big difference between 6-8 weeks @ x% pay and 8 weeks at 0 pay.  And it should affect when you decide to TTC.

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    My work has no policy.  It's very small, and I'm the first one to be pregnant.  I had to work it out with her once I got pregnant, over a few weeks.   
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    imagetorii:

    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    ETA: This was months before I had thought about TTC. I just wanted to be prepared.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

     

    I was ttc while still in college. I had already been married for two years, and DH and I decided that I would (if the timing worked and it has) graduate, have a baby stay home for as long as we thought necessary and then join the work force. Other than student loans we have no debt, and we are used to having no money so living off one income for a year or so isn't that challenging. 

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    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

    Hmm Care to explain your logic? Maybe it's just not for YOU. That being said I hope you realize that a lot of people PLAN on getting pregnant while still finishing school.

    I'm 35, not working and in college (career change). I will graduate in the Fall. This pregnancy was totally planned. I'm fortunate we can do this and glad I don't have to worry about my company's maternity leave (or lack there of).   

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    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

    Hmm Care to explain your logic? Maybe it's just not for YOU. That being said I hope you realize that a lot of people PLAN on getting pregnant while still finishing school.

    I graduated with tons of girls who were pregnant or had their babies while in college. Since we were in a cohort, I was with the same girls for two years. Personally, it seemed like they were having to work extra hard to get all of our assignments and projects done. For ME, I couldn't have handled it, which is why I said it baffled me. I completely understand that's my opinion and I don't think anybody is wrong for doing it. I just know that I couldn't. For me, the unknown is too stressful and I wanted a secure career before TTC.

    That being said, I'm in a two-income needed family. I would have LOVED to start a family earlier had I known DH could have fully supported us.

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    My agency has no set policy. I have a temperamental boss/owner, and everything is up to his whim. I am assuming the worst (minimum time off with no pay) and hoping for the best (8-12 weeks, with pay after I can physically start working from home.)

    But after trying for more than three years to get pregnant, my leave benefits were the least of my worries.

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    Honestly, I didn't look into my leave policy, because it didn't matter. DH and I are more than financially stable. If I had to take a year off work without any type of pay, I could, and it would be no problem. DH and I wanted to start a family, my company's leave policy wasn't going to change that.

    I've since found out that my companies leave policy is basically nothing. 12 weeks, completely unpaid. Sure, its somewhat disappointing knowing that other companies are giving woman 60-100% for 6-12 weeks, and my company won't give anything. But again, it doesn't really matter. DH and I will use some of our savings for whatever bills we have to pay while I'm out of work, and thats that. I really don't understand what the big deal is.

    In my opinion, if you arn't financially stable enough to be able to pay your bills without income for a few months, you have no business TTC anyway.

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    At my old job it was standard 12 weeks unpaid leave.  I got laid off with my entire department.  I now do "freelance" work.  DH is the breadwinner, and we don't need my salary, so it doesn't matter to me.  He wants me to take off a year from doing anything, but I don't know what I'm doing yet exactly.  We planned our entire lives around one salary.
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    Maternity leave policies are often very confusing and not very easy to understand. I don't know about 'planning around' what they offer - you get what they give you. It doesn't affect the decision of whether to get pregnant IMHO.

     My company used to have a leave plan, but now they just have FMLA.  I'm not just taking what they give me.  I'm taking what my family needs and can afford.  However, before I can know what we can afford, I need to know what's offered and in my case had to find creative ways to work around that.  I'm not just going to sit back on my laurels and say "well gee company thanks for giving me bubcus".  And it did affect the when, bc we needed a plan

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    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

    Hmm Care to explain your logic? Maybe it's just not for YOU. That being said I hope you realize that a lot of people PLAN on getting pregnant while still finishing school.

    I graduated with tons of girls who were pregnant or had their babies while in college. Since we were in a cohort, I was with the same girls for two years. Personally, it seemed like they were having to work extra hard to get all of our assignments and projects done. For ME, I couldn't have handled it, which is why I said it baffled me. I completely understand that's my opinion and I don't think anybody is wrong for doing it. I just know that I couldn't. For me, the unknown is too stressful and I wanted a secure career before TTC.

    That being said, I'm in a two-income needed family. I would have LOVED to start a family earlier had I known DH could have fully supported us.

    Got it. Yes, I'm sure I have to work hader than most of my classmates. Yes it's a pain in the arse to leave a full time job and sit some more in a classroom but you know what? I wouldn't change it for the world. This was planned. This was our decision. I love my career but I love being able to enjoy my baby more. The only way for me to do this was to finish law school while pregnant and while the baby was here. I can take my time, finish school and not work. There is no way in hell I could be a lawyer and leave my practice for 3 months. I wouldn't do it and DH wouldn't let me do it either. So this was the alternative.

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    Many of the people people questioning may not have been trying.  When DH and I first got married I didn't care what the maternity leave policy was because I wasn't planning.  Surprises happen and many people may get confused with what they need to do.

    As far as college comment from a PP,  I'm in college and pregnant.   So I have to take a year off, I'd rather spend it with my baby anyways.  I don't think it makes me irresponsible or a bad  person. It's was will work for DH and I.   

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    Maternity leave policies are often very confusing and not very easy to understand. I don't know about 'planning around' what they offer - you get what they give you. It doesn't affect the decision of whether to get pregnant IMHO.

    If you only get x weeks paid but want to take x+4 additional weeks you need to plan to cover expenses during the weeks you will be taking unpaid.  Not biitching about it b/c you didn't research and plan until half way through your pregnancy.

    I hear ya there - but that's a whole different matter. That person is choosing to take unpaid so they have to deal with the consequences in my opinion. If they don't like it, gotta get back to work. If they have a definite amt of weeks they "have to" or "want to" take then I do agree with you that they should've done their homework. I'm more going with the flow with mine because I'm not sure exactly how much I'll need and have a lot of time that I may not use all of it.

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    I only knew about the company's policy through fellow co-workers and even then it was a pretty vague description.  The policy is actually quite complicated, the exact amount you get paid/can use is based on quite a few variable, the excel spreadsheet they send out is nuts, so knowing the exact policy I would get would have been impossible before getting pg. I was 25, unmarried, swingin' single living it up in the city when I started my job for this company, asking about a maternity leave policy was the last thing on my mind.
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    Maternity leave policies are often very confusing and not very easy to understand. I don't know about 'planning around' what they offer - you get what they give you. It doesn't affect the decision of whether to get pregnant IMHO.

    I'd argue that isn't necessarily true.

    Like, if you aren't getting paid for your leave, and can't afford to go without a paycheck for a few months, it is probably not a good idea to get pregnant right now.

    That's a totally different issue - that's the fact that you can't afford/not ready for the expense of maternity leave and basically of having a baby.

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    I had a coworker who got pregnant her first year at the school. She had a baby at a previous(non-educational) job. She was furious that there wasn't any short term disability insurance. Um, you use your sick days. It is common knowledge. She was TTCing(not an accident), so she should have asked the question BEFORE she tried. Those who get pregnant "by accident" I can see being upset for a millisecond. 
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    Not everyone works for a big company with a policy in place. 

    That being said, I started a savings account specifically for the baby and any unpaid leave I would have to take 2-3 months before TTC

    I, for one, work for a small company with the majority of my co-workers being men.

    I'm the first person to get pregnant on the job and there are still details that need to be worked out for my leave and I'm halfway through my pregnancy.

    Everyone is ready to have kids at different times and some people are not very good planners or wait until the last minute to do things.  In the end, it all works out for everyone as there are many unplanned pregnancies too!

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    It's shocking to me, too. On my first day of orientation when I met with our insurance specialists, I inquired about STD and what the maternity leave consisted of.

    I also interviewed plenty of new moms who worked with me to ask about which policy they had and what they recommended. 

    What baffles me is how many people are actively TTC without jobs or are still in college. I suppose it can work for some people, but I needed to know exactly where I would be nine months from finding out I was pregnant. 

    Hmm Care to explain your logic? Maybe it's just not for YOU. That being said I hope you realize that a lot of people PLAN on getting pregnant while still finishing school.

    I graduated with tons of girls who were pregnant or had their babies while in college. Since we were in a cohort, I was with the same girls for two years. Personally, it seemed like they were having to work extra hard to get all of our assignments and projects done. For ME, I couldn't have handled it, which is why I said it baffled me. I completely understand that's my opinion and I don't think anybody is wrong for doing it. I just know that I couldn't. For me, the unknown is too stressful and I wanted a secure career before TTC.

    That being said, I'm in a two-income needed family. I would have LOVED to start a family earlier had I known DH could have fully supported us.

    Got it. Yes, I'm sure I have to work hader than most of my classmates. Yes it's a pain in the arse to leave a full time job and sit some more in a classroom but you know what? I wouldn't change it for the world. This was planned. This was our decision. I love my career but I love being able to enjoy my baby more. The only way for me to do this was to finish law school while pregnant and while the baby was here. I can take my time, finish school and not work. There is no way in hell I could be a lawyer and leave my practice for 3 months. I wouldn't do it and DH wouldn't let me do it either. So this was the alternative.

    Even though I caused a bit of a stir, I'm glad I did, because now it doesn't "baffle" me anymore. Thanks ladies for helping me understand why some of you choose to have babies while in school! (I promise that was said with sincerity!) 

    I completely understand wanting to begin your family on your time frame and I wasn't even considering people who were in masters or PhD programs. Having to wait for years upon years wouldn't be the right decision for most people.

    I also wasn't taking into consideration people who didn't rely on their own incomes, like I did.

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    Well, I work for a small company that has no 'official' leave policy. If you work for a company that does, I don't understand why you wouldn't know.
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    If it weren't for these people, I wouldn't have a job.  I literally just got off the phone with an employee who couldn't understand why we didn't pay his first week of paternity leave like his old company, let alone that he hadn't been here long enough to qualify for FMLA or any other leave.  Every day I get these calls...
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    We don't actually have a real "policy" in place for maternity leave.  I kept looking around, but did not do anything or inquire until I told my boss.  He actually did a bit of poking around for me.  That said, our "policy" is still confusing, especially if you plan to work until you go into labor (which what I plan to do).  It goes through our STD, but doesn't actually follow all the rules that normal STD would.  It would be nice if they actually put a policy out there!
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    What pisses me off is when people think FMLA is their paid leave.

    Do the freaking research people. 

    This. 

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    I agree with it being annoying in 2nd or 3rd tri, but, in some situations I can understand.  For example, this baby was a complete surprise - I'm not talking drunken night, forgot to use protection, kind of surprise - I was on the pill, never missed a day, and somehow managed to get pregnant.  So at that time, I had never thought about researching the maternity policy.  But, I researched that the day after I got my positive test, not 3 months after.  So, I don't understand why people wait until 2nd tri to look, but I can understand it in 1st tri.

     What annoys me, are insurance vents.  I mean, how hard is it to look and see if your policy covers an NT scan or CF test??

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