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    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

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    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

    Im sure I will get flamed for saying this but FVCK!

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    imageskaplan000:
    image*sallymad*:

    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

    Im sure I will get flamed for saying this but FVCK!

    I won't flame you.  I'm definitely not 100% on board with this reform.

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    Yeah!  Very excited! Smile
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    yup.  but there's no public option.  it's watered down, so don't worry too much.  i doubt you'll notice....you know unless you get sick and then realize that your insurance company isn't allowed to drop you.  then you might be thankful.  maybe.
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    imageskaplan000:
    image*sallymad*:

    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

    Im sure I will get flamed for saying this but FVCK!

     

    my thoughts exactly. 

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    image*sallymad*:

    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

    I don't think it's intended to be a cure-all. More like the start of a long-term treatment plan. 

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    imageskaplan000:
    image*sallymad*:

    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

    Im sure I will get flamed for saying this but FVCK!

    No flames here. I still don't think they know how they are going to pay for it.  That's a big deal and the details that have been thrown out there just seem too vague to be realistic.
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    I'm not totally into political stuff but I think that this is really going to suck.

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    imagevioletvirgo:
    yup.  but there's no public option.  it's watered down, so don't worry too much.  i doubt you'll notice....you know unless you get sick and then realize that your insurance company isn't allowed to drop you.  then you might be thankful.  maybe.

    I really like you 

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    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    image*sallymad*:

    Yup sure did.

    Now they better pray this works.

    I don't think it's intended to be a cure-all. More like the start of a long-term treatment plan. 

    That's why I'm saying they better hope it works out, this is a huge change for health care.

    I'm not saying I'm against it, it's just huge (and expensive). In fact I hope it does work out, god knows SOMETHING needed to change with health care. Now what it is exactly I'm not even sure......

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    imagebizmom:

    I'm not totally into political stuff but I think that this is really going to suck.

    If you don't mind my asking, why do you think it's going to suck?

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    Now I could be wrong but I heard that the health reform won't cover papsmears (sp?) until 30ish or mammograms until over 40. Like I said I could be wrong.
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    imagevioletvirgo:
    yup.  but there's no public option.  it's watered down, so don't worry too much.  i doubt you'll notice....you know unless you get sick and then realize that your insurance company isn't allowed to drop you.  then you might be thankful.  maybe.

    OMG, this. 

    Don't panic! Socialism won't touch your medicare. 

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    imageskaplan000:
    Now I could be wrong but I heard that the health reform won't cover papsmears (sp?) until 30ish or mammograms until over 40. Like I said I could be wrong.

    there's NO public option in this bill.  everyone will still have health insurance just like they do now.


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    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.
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    imagevioletvirgo:
    yup.  but there's no public option.  it's watered down, so don't worry too much.  i doubt you'll notice....you know unless you get sick and then realize that your insurance company isn't allowed to drop you.  then you might be thankful.  maybe.

    OMG, this. 

    Don't panic! Socialism won't touch your medicare. 

    :snicker:  

    say no to the evil social healthcare....until i'm 65 ;)

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    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition?

     

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    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

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    imagevioletvirgo:

    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition?

     

    No one thinks this, until you suggest that maybe they should pay for a miniscule part of making it happen. Confused

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    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Thanks, Lori. You said it. We got dropped from out health care last year in November. Between November and February 2nd (when DH's new employer's plan kicked in) was about the most terrifying time of my life. We were constantly in fear of getting sick or, even worse, Matty getting sick.

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    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!
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    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    I'm really sorry Lori. :( That f'ing sucks.

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    imageJoyousJulia:
    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Thanks, Lori. You said it. We got dropped from out health care last year in November. Between November and February 2nd (when DH's new employer's plan kicked in) was about the most terrifying time of my life. We were constantly in fear of getting sick or, even worse, Matty getting sick.

    This is exactly why things need to change.
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    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Ugh.  What a nightmare.  I'm sorry you and your family are in this position because of our (until now) f'ed up health care system.
    You can bet that the people who are all up in arms about this TRILLION DOLLAR SOCIALIST PLAN would jump right on board if they were suddenly in your position. 
    Hypocrites.

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    imagevioletvirgo:

    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition

    GAWWD...don't you pay attention but at all?

    Kill the bill, save the babies!!!!

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    Sorry, I was trying to quote this:
    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    And this:

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

     

    Uh, is this sort of thing a newsflash for you?  This is what the healthcare reform bill is all about!  

    So many people who oppose the bill don't know what it's freaking about!  Gimme a break!

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    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imagevioletvirgo:

    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition?

     

    No one thinks this, until you suggest that maybe they should pay for a miniscule part of making it happen. Confused

    Do you know the terrified parent of a sick child who wouldn't gladly cough up a "miniscule part" to see their kid covered, rather than risk crushing debt, or a child's death?

    This glib response makes me more angry than you can imagine.

     

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    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imagebizmom:

    I'm not totally into political stuff but I think that this is really going to suck.

    If you don't mind my asking, why do you think it's going to suck?

    Like I said, Idk much about it all but what i've heard is that the insurance rates could go up and as expensive as it already is... I guess its just the not knowing of whats going to be going on is the sucky part. But like one of the PP said we might not even notice anything.

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    imageLoriFalce:
    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imagevioletvirgo:

    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition?

     

    No one thinks this, until you suggest that maybe they should pay for a miniscule part of making it happen. Confused

    Do you know the terrified parent of a sick child who wouldn't gladly cough up a "miniscule part" to see their kid covered, rather than risk crushing debt, or a child's death?

    This glib response makes me more angry than you can imagine.

     

    WTF are you talking about? I'm agreeing with you. 

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    imageFolanMama:
    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

    This kind of stuff happens all the time...to thousands of Americans.

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    imageFolanMama:
    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

    Because it was a silent heart attack, we can't prove when it happened. They are calling it a pre-existing condition.

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    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imageLoriFalce:
    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imagevioletvirgo:

    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition?

     

    No one thinks this, until you suggest that maybe they should pay for a miniscule part of making it happen. Confused

    Do you know the terrified parent of a sick child who wouldn't gladly cough up a "miniscule part" to see their kid covered, rather than risk crushing debt, or a child's death?

    This glib response makes me more angry than you can imagine.

     

    WTF are you talking about? I'm agreeing with you. 

    Sorry. I was reading your "they" as the kid's family. Kisses.

     

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    imagelaurandjim:

    Sorry, I was trying to quote this:
    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    And this:

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

     

    Uh, is this sort of thing a newsflash for you?  This is what the healthcare reform bill is all about!  

    So many people who oppose the bill don't know what it's freaking about!  Gimme a break!

    Ok.  Let's slow down a hot second.  There are many many facets of this bill and to think that people are up to the minute on all of them is silly.  The parts I have been more interested in are the benefits to those who don't have or cannot get health insurance, not changes to the rights of the currently insured.  So you give me a break.

    Now, to answer your question: no, I've never heard of people's insurance just being dropped b/c of a diagnosis.  I can't a situation where that is legal with current payments, no changes in employment, etc. My question is legit. 

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    imageLoriFalce:
    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imageLoriFalce:
    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    imagevioletvirgo:

    imageJoyousJulia:
    On a really really bright note, because of it, six months from today it will be ILLEGAL to deny healthcare coverage to children because of preexisting conditions. There's some stuff in the bill that's a little nebulous, but that one part of the bill is going to help so many families.

    and to think there are people against this.  seriously.  who thinks children should go without b/c they were born with a major medical condition?

     

    No one thinks this, until you suggest that maybe they should pay for a miniscule part of making it happen. Confused

    Do you know the terrified parent of a sick child who wouldn't gladly cough up a "miniscule part" to see their kid covered, rather than risk crushing debt, or a child's death?

    This glib response makes me more angry than you can imagine.

     

    WTF are you talking about? I'm agreeing with you. 

    Sorry. I was reading your "they" as the kid's family. Kisses.

     

    Please. I'm a closet socialist. Don't ever lump me in with The Establishment. Indifferent

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    imageLoriFalce:
    imageFolanMama:
    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

    Because it was a silent heart attack, we can't prove when it happened. They are calling it a pre-existing condition.

    Gotcha.  That is sh!tty.  I'm so sorry for you guys right now.  We've danced that dance before (thanks to DH's type 1 diabetes being a pre-existing condition) and few things are more stessful.
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    imageMrs.Hizzo:
    Please. I'm a closet socialist. Don't ever lump me in with The Establishment. Indifferent

    Mea culpa.

    We should have people start identifying themselves with fonts in red or blue, accordingly. ;)

     

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    imageFolanMama:
    imagelaurandjim:

    Sorry, I was trying to quote this:
    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    And this:

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

     

    Uh, is this sort of thing a newsflash for you?  This is what the healthcare reform bill is all about!  

    So many people who oppose the bill don't know what it's freaking about!  Gimme a break!

    Ok.  Let's slow down a hot second.  There are many many facets of this bill and to think that people are up to the minute on all of them is silly.  The parts I have been more interested in are the benefits to those who don't have or cannot get health insurance, not changes to the rights of the currently insured.  So you give me a break.

    Now, to answer your question: no, I've never heard of people's insurance just being dropped b/c of a diagnosis.  I can't a situation where that is legal with current payments, no changes in employment, etc. My question is legit. 

    it happens regularly.  they can also deny your kid coverage if they are born with a major medical condition or drop you if you're costing them too much money.  if a woman has a c/s and then tries to get coverage an insurance co can claim pre-existing condition and not cover her.  that's fvcked up. 

    that (stories like lori's and countless others) are what we've been fighting for.

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    imageFolanMama:
    imageLoriFalce:
    imageFolanMama:
    imageLoriFalce:

    I wonder how many people who are opposed have no insurance, or have ever been unable to get insurance? Not that you just willfully didn't get it, or were some deadbeat who refused to work and get it, etc. I'm talking about someone who could not get insurance.

    Mine was cancelled Friday because of my husband's silent heart attack that was identified a few weeks ago.

    My son has no insurance now because my husband has bad health. I don't care about me. I care about my kid, and my husband. I care about the fact that we have never once been late with a premium. We paid well over $2500 a month, and my husband has an echocardiogram, a nuclear stress test and God knows what else coming up over the next month.

    I don't want the government to give us a damn thing for free. I want them to make sure that we will be allowed to continue to pony up a ridiculous amount of money every month for insurance.  

    Shut the front door!  Your insurance dropped you as a result of a medical diagnosis?  Is that legal?  What was their reasoning!?!?!

    Because it was a silent heart attack, we can't prove when it happened. They are calling it a pre-existing condition.

    Gotcha.  That is sh!tty.  I'm so sorry for you guys right now.  We've danced that dance before (thanks to DH's type 1 diabetes being a pre-existing condition) and few things are more stessful.

    Your statement is a perfect example of how so many people are against this bill (and other things) when in fact they would benefit.  One of the big reasons reform was needed was because insurance companies can drop or refuse coverage for "pre-existing conditions."  If you've been there, I can't imagine why you wouldn't see this as a move in the right direction?

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    In regards to getting dropped for being ill, my father lost his insurance after being diagnosed with cancer.  So, yeah, it does happen with some frequency.
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