Job offer ???

shouldbworkin

If you weren't looking for a job, how much above your current salary would you expect someone to offer you to switch for a lateral or the next step up?  I just got a job offer today and I am a little shocked that this company thought it would entice me to switch firms.  There's a big disconnect between the benies I'm getting now and what they're offering.  And, the salary is not going to drastically improve my life, as the recruited lead me to believe when he talked to me about the job.  I did get my WAH day, but I'm still working that day. If they want to pay me for PT, then I will take that day off.  But, maybe I'm way off base here???>?

Aloe0l

A lateral move would be different than a "step up" or a promotion.  It would depend on whether or not your duties would be comparable or not.  You'd also have to weigh the differences between perks, benefits, bonuses, etc.  Where I work, I want to say it is normal to offer about a 3-6% increase in salary for a lateral move.  If its a true promotion however with added responsibilities, it would be more than that.  You can also do some research either in trade journals or on websites like salary.com to see what is a competitive rate these days.  Maybe they are just that desperate for someone with your skill set, who knows?

shouldbworkin

Technically, it's a promotion, although I will have many of the same duties I have now, but for a larger firm. 

orchidwedding

Maybe use it to negotiate with your current employer?  I am not sure if I understand your post entirely though. . .

shouldbworkin

orchidwedding:

Maybe use it to negotiate with your current employer?  I am not sure if I understand your post entirely though. . .

I don't think I was offered enough to make it worth my time to move and lose benies.  But, I'm wondering if I'm off base.  So, I guess I'm asking that if you were in the same situation, how much would someone have to offer you over what you make now to make you want to move. 

wheelenl

I don't know. For me, I have childcare through work so it would have to be a really sweet deal,  and at least probably 25% more pay. I also love my job, so it would have to be an organization that I loved.

duchess0727

If I weren't looking and was happy where I was, salary increase would need to be about 10% to make me move.  I just took a lateral move for no pay increase but a much better bonus and 401k match so probably about a 10% increase plus stability and lots of growth potential.   Recruiters are shady - did you go back and ask for more $? 

shouldbworkin

duchess0727:

  Recruiters are shady - did you go back and ask for more $? 

He really has been shady through the whole process.  At one point, I had a feeling that this is where the offer was going to come in and I told him I wasn't interested.  He kept pushing, so I continued ... only to end up in the same place. Ugh!  I am talking to him in an hour and telling him that I'm not taking that offer.  I'm pretty put off now, though.  They'd have to almost double the increase for me to want to move, which I'd already explained to the recruiter. 

duchess0727

shouldbworkin:

duchess0727:

  Recruiters are shady - did you go back and ask for more $? 

He really has been shady through the whole process.  At one point, I had a feeling that this is where the offer was going to come in and I told him I wasn't interested.  He kept pushing, so I continued ... only to end up in the same place. Ugh!  I am talking to him in an hour and telling him that I'm not taking that offer.  I'm pretty put off now, though.  They'd have to almost double the increase for me to want to move, which I'd already explained to the recruiter. 

Since I've had kids, I've found almost every dealing with a recruiter to be really annoying.  I've actually had all of my luck finding jobs either on my own or through networking.  And that's helped me find jobs that recruiters don't even know about - and believe me they get ticked by that.  But I would just bottom line it and say 'I need XX to leave.  If they can give it, great.  If not, then tell them thank you for the offer but I have to decline.'  I'm sure that's what you've been doing - the recruiters just don't get it. 

shouldbworkin

duchess0727:

But I would just bottom line it and say 'I need XX to leave.  If they can give it, great.  If not, then tell them thank you for the offer but I have to decline.'  I'm sure that's what you've been doing - the recruiters just don't get it. 

Now he's quibbling with me over $1000.  I gave him the number and he says "ok, but if they offer XXXXX - $1000 I will say no."  I told him to just call me, but he won't take that as my answer.  I'm SO done with him. 

Pesky

I am looking kind of casually and expect a 15-20% increase in salary to move.  Given my current situation, including flexibility in hours and work location (I can work at home as needed), it would have to be a good gig to entice me to move.  Otherwise, it's not worth it to me to go through a huge learning curve, proving myself all over again, being a target for LIFO, plus odds of it being less flexible than my current arrangement.

annabella10

I think it depends on the field...